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Topic: Anyone else feeling confused/lost spiritually, lik don't know what to believe is real
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T Knowflake Posts: 11808 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 20, 2015 01:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: Gabby, I've dealt with with 4 suicides in the last 20 years. I'm not even including the 20th century suicides. This is a hard, unusual grief. You have to live the grief. This is not something you can sweep under the rug. You will damage your mental health if you do. You are a survivor and must take care of yourself.
Well said. & i'm very sorry to hear that. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 01:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: Gabby, I've dealt with with 4 suicides in the last 20 years. I'm not even including the 20th century suicides. This is a hard, unusual grief. You have to live the grief. This is not something you can sweep under the rug. You will damage your mental health if you do. You are a survivor and must take care of yourself.
Honestly, I don't know where to begin to digest what they did. My sister in law hung herself with a belt, with her children in the next room. My uncle hung himself to, my ex intentionally overdosed on drugs. I guess I have not let myself process any of this...I don't get it. I don't get why or how they could do this to themselves and the ppl who loved them. It's like I just want them to go away. If they could be so cruel and selfish, I don't want to even think about them. In some way....thinking about them is caring for them. Caring for them is to good for them!! They don't deserve it. They didn't care about anyone, so why should I give them something they refused to give to anyone else. They broke hearts and destoyed lives only thinking about themselves. A part of me wants to hate them..so I guess I'm angry at them. I have to drive by my exes office often, it makes me angry to even look at his place. My mom mentioned my sister in law a few weeks ago, it was the anniversary of her death...again I didn't even want to acknowledge it or her, I just stayed quiet to respect my brother, he died the day she hung herself and with his belt! That makes me so angry! Why? He was always so good to her!? IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 571 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 20, 2015 02:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Honestly, I don't know where to begin to digest what they did. My sister in law hung herself with a belt, with her children in the next room. My uncle hung himself to, my ex intentionally overdosed on drugs. I guess I have not let myself process any of this...I don't get it. I don't get why or how they could do this to themselves and the ppl who loved them. It's like I just want them to go away. If they could be so cruel and selfish, I don't want to even think about them. In some way....thinking about them is caring for them. Caring for them is to good for them!! They don't deserve it. They didn't care about anyone, so why should I give them something they refused to give to anyone else. They broke hearts and destoyed lives only thinking about themselves. A part of me wants to hate them..so I guess I'm angry at them!
Gabby, Anger is healthy, as well as all the other feelings. You have to experience it all. Like I've said before, this is a special kind of grief. This is going to take a while to sink in: YOU are not responsible for their choices. YOU will never understand their choices. It is impossible for you go back in time and understand their mental states. You know the damage suicide does to the survivors; therefore, it is vital you take care of you and you mental health to prevent becoming your own suicide statistic. Suicide survivors have a higher rate of committing suicide. You will forgive them someday WAAAAY down the road. Your grief will go from tsunami, to ocean, to sea, to lake, to pond, to river, to stream. Time is your enemy and your friend (Hello, Saturn!).
Hugs and Kisses.
Claire
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1172 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 03:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by aleenaxo: Don't worry about feeling this way! It's totally normal. I allllways question my spiritual beliefs (Neptune and Jupiter retrograde) but personally the one thing I always fall back on is this amazing low key psychic that just knew everything. I sometimes have this inner conflict between what's practical and what's spiritual. It's totally okay to question your beliefs! Maybe you need to ask yourself some questions on what is making you uncomfortable and how you can move forward. Say there's a particular thing you read that you once believed in but you started questioning it. Totally okay! Just do some research. Maybe that's not a part of you and you will stumble across something else that resonates with your soul. Contrary to most religions I think we should definitely question our beliefs because how else will we get a depose understanding of spirituality and where we fit into it?? Or rather how it fits with us.
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Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 78 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 04:04 AM
ahh I thought I was the only one! I began feeling spiritually drained on July 10th and I've been questioning my beliefs (more so than I normally do) since then. Uranus has been in conjunction with my natal Moon for the past year, so initially I was going to attribute this feeling to Uranus and dismiss it altogether, but there's something strangely different this time. I haven't looked too deep into the current transits, but for some reason I think Neptune might be the culprit..I know this is the creme de la creme of clichés but.. everything happens for a reason! I used to silently dismiss this whenever someone would say it, but I've had my eyes and spirit opened to this truth. Maybe the Universal mind is trying to tell you something.. I feel as though this would be a good time for some introspection; the answer to this situation is probably within you.. IP: Logged |
Spica Knowflake Posts: 75 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 09:45 AM
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Meatballzzzzzz Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Earth Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 12:04 PM
YES!!! I have been feeling this way for quit some time though. I'm thinking though it has something to do with T Pluto aspecting to my Capricorn stellium. IP: Logged |
aleenaxo Knowflake Posts: 382 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 20, 2015 07:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Actually I wouldn't mind running some of the things I've learned recently by someone, after I digest it more fully. It's a totally new way to look at things and a bit intimidating!
Sorry for such a late reply I'm so busy ahh. Is there a forum that this could be done over?? I'm still learning what LL has to offer. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 4561 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted July 20, 2015 07:09 PM
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Seimei Knowflake Posts: 547 From: LafaLott,La.U.S.A. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 07:18 PM
Like there's going to be a >>false sense of security given to us that will turn out to be a nightmare that we will have to escape<<<. Do you know what I'm talking about? I know EXACTLY what you are talking about but many here think me a loon if I go into it,lol. I've been praying on the matter.
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astra7 Knowflake Posts: 810 From: I live at 667 Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 20, 2015 07:28 PM
I'm not feeling it but I think it's called spiritual awakening. It's quite common for people to follow one path and move on to find something else till you find truth of the universe. I am getting clarity of how universe works though it's far from complete.IP: Logged |
Seimei Knowflake Posts: 547 From: LafaLott,La.U.S.A. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 07:58 PM
http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2015/07/the-new-moon-in-cancer-pt-1-whats-happening-in-july-august-2015.html I do recommend everyone feeling this energy read from the above link especially about the The Grand Irrationality. From the next full moon thru JAN16, WORLD WILL CHANGE MUCH. then maybe not, just too much hard reading, go listen to then > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yjxWfyxpqY and then maybe send a message to your past self,lol. content of message solely up to you. ------------------ Seimei, Jupiter Nadir IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 316 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 20, 2015 08:09 PM
What about Uranus? (Haven't read the whole thread, sowwy!!) IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 10:30 PM
I'm still here....I'm just reading and digesting whats been talked about. The need to deal with the suicides has hit me kind of hard, I didn't realize how much I'd pushed that away.Ontop of that....I really appreciate everyone contributing! Im glad to know it's not just me sensing something changing, it's affecting all of us. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 10:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: Gabby,Anger is healthy, as well as all the other feelings. You have to experience it all. Like I've said before, this is a special kind of grief. This is going to take a while to sink in: YOU are not responsible for their choices. YOU will never understand their choices. It is impossible for you go back in time and understand their mental states. You know the damage suicide does to the survivors; therefore, it is vital you take care of you and you mental health to prevent becoming your own suicide statistic. Suicide survivors have a higher rate of committing suicide. You will forgive them someday WAAAAY down the road. Your grief will go from tsunami, to ocean, to sea, to lake, to pond, to river, to stream. Time is your enemy and your friend (Hello, Saturn!).
Hugs and Kisses.
Claire
Thank you so much!! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 63555 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 20, 2015 11:00 PM
It can take a long time to FEEL the grief of death. The most painful death to me happened about 7 years ago and I just started weeping last week. I did before, at various times, but somehow I felt safe enough to feel more, then. It is not linear.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Free Leon: ahh I thought I was the only one! I began feeling spiritually drained on July 10th and I've been questioning my beliefs (more so than I normally do) since then. Uranus has been in conjunction with my natal Moon for the past year, so initially I was going to attribute this feeling to Uranus and dismiss it altogether, but there's something strangely different this time. I haven't looked too deep into the current transits, but for some reason I think Neptune might be the culprit..I know this is the creme de la creme of clichés but.. everything happens for a reason! I used to silently dismiss this whenever someone would say it, but I've had my eyes and spirit opened to this truth. Maybe the Universal mind is trying to tell you something.. I feel as though this would be a good time for some introspection; the answer to this situation is probably within you..
Thank you! I can't help but to be introspective(12th house virgo Moon) sometimes I wish I wasn't so much introspective. Wouldn't it be awesome to be oblivious to all this stuff and just float along without a care in the world? They say ignorance is bliss....I wish I knew that ignorance!! Lol I think your right looking inside myself should help me figure this out.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Meatballzzzzzz: YES!!! I have been feeling this way for quit some time though. I'm thinking though it has something to do with T Pluto aspecting to my Capricorn stellium.
Ugh, that would do it!! My progresses Sun has transit Pluto sitting on it! IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spica: Teal Swan.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by aleenaxo: Sorry for such a late reply I'm so busy ahh. Is there a forum that this could be done over?? I'm still learning what LL has to offer.
I'm a moderator in asteroid astrology if you want to email me, my email is there. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Seimei: Like there's going to be a >>false sense of security given to us that will turn out to be a nightmare that we will have to escape<<<. Do you know what I'm talking about? I know EXACTLY what you are talking about but many here think me a loon if I go into it,lol. I've been praying on the matter.
I feel a huge urgency to wake up...like something is right around the corner as in years away but the process is already in action and we can't stop it now. You have my email if you want to talk about it. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Did you have a book listed here?? Could you repost it, I didn't get to write to down....sorry I should have written it down earlier. IP: Logged |
Gabby Moderator Posts: 6864 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 20, 2015 11:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by astra7: I'm not feeling it but I think it's called spiritual awakening. It's quite common for people to follow one path and move on to find something else till you find truth of the universe. I am getting clarity of how universe works though it's far from complete.
Thank you, a spritual awakening makes good sense. IP: Logged |
aleenaxo Knowflake Posts: 382 From: Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 20, 2015 11:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I'm a moderator in asteroid astrology if you want to email me, my email is there.
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Newrise Knowflake Posts: 646 From: Los angeles Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 21, 2015 12:27 AM
I went through such a 'transit' in which I literally lost my religion. The hardest period of my life. Since then I don't take anything literally.Hugs, you can talk to me if you want!! IP: Logged |