posted July 19, 2015 10:34 PM            

I was really feeling pretty good in my lil bubble regarding the particular path I was on, then a few things dropped in my lap and now im not sure what to believe. I'm so confused, this could change my outlook on spirituality completely and open my eyes to see new doors but I'm not sure if they are valid doors I want to open. I'm just confused!!
Is anyone else feeling a confusion, it's like another "losing my religion" day for me...which seems to be a theme in my life!
Funny...I don't have a religion to lose at this point but my concepts on God and the universe have been shaken leaving me to wonder where I fit in.

posted July 19, 2015 10:43 PM            

Someone else at work commented it was a weird day, too... hmp.

posted July 19, 2015 10:52 PM            

However I feel for me chiron healed what it needed and now I feel at peace. Perhaps chiron is not finished with you yet but belief me this chiron transit aspecting your moon will be worth it. I feel is about healing old wounds that did not heal properly or all the way and having another chance at healing and cleansing leading to your heart chackra opening up again and feeling whole.

posted July 19, 2015 11:05 PM            

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Originally posted by SnowCatcher:
YES, I'M FEELING THIS TOO! It's feels a little sad too. Overall, beginning of today felt good, went to work... then while I was at work, that lost feeling creeped up on me until, now actually? Something drew me to these forums to search for something lol...

Someone else at work commented it was a weird day, too... hmp.

I feel like something I've been searching for recently came up void / empty feeling, and idk, just a very confusing lost feeling indeed

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posted July 19, 2015 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I was about to say last time you were not feeling too great chiron was aspecting your moon and I remember I was in the same boat then..

However I feel for me chiron healed what it needed and now I feel at peace. Perhaps chiron is not finished with you yet but belief me this chiron transit aspecting your moon will be worth it. I feel is about healing old wounds that did not heal properly or all the way and having another chance at healing and cleansing leading to your heart chackra opening up again and feeling whole.

I have been taking valerian root with chamomile lately so perhaps my uplifted mood has to do with that!! I am thinking is probably a combo of chiron doing its magic, the herbs and me using good coping skills but I feel at peace lately. You will get there too, I Know it! You are into mindfulness and yoga and breathing techniques and herbs so you will get there no doubt. This crisis means chiron is doing healing and needed cleansing .

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Your right it was Chiron opposing my Moon last time also, I think Neptune was squaring my Sun then. I wish Chiron would move on!! I'm not looking forward to it squaring my Mars next though....ugh! I'm sure I will be 8*tch galore around that time.
I'm having to face up to some hard things I've putting off hoping I could handle them on my own, but I can't!
So yes, lessons on accepting that I need to ask for help because I can't do everything alone. It's hard for me to ask for help and admit defeat! Chiron is making an exact trine to my NN.

posted July 19, 2015 11:19 PM            

I allllways question my spiritual beliefs (Neptune and Jupiter retrograde) but personally the one thing I always fall back on is this amazing low key psychic that just knew everything.

I sometimes have this inner conflict between what's practical and what's spiritual. It's totally okay to question your beliefs! Maybe you need to ask yourself some questions on what is making you uncomfortable and how you can move forward.

Say there's a particular thing you read that you once believed in but you started questioning it. Totally okay! Just do some research. Maybe that's not a part of you and you will stumble across something else that resonates with your soul.

posted July 19, 2015 11:20 PM            

Like you, I'm having tr Neptune square natal Neptune. Life is but a dream..?

Also Rick Levine says in his monthly forecast this month that it's a rare case where the outer planets are not forming any aspects with each other. Usually, he says, the aspects formed by outer planets determine the overriding theme for that time period.

posted July 19, 2015 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Void, that is the perfect word for it!
It almost feels hard to breath right now...like the air thin and the energy is so low right now. I feel sad and lost but not sure why.
I hope it gets better for you! Is Chiron aspecting you at all? Or are you having any hard aspects to transit Neptune or Jupiter?
My Jupiter is taking a beating right now by Mars! Argh! I know I feel very feisty, it's not hard to make me mad at this moment. I wish I had an outlet for it!! Lol

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Yes!!! We're feeling the same thing, this is weird. I actually almost just teared up (and I'm a dude! hahaha) thinking about something from many years ago, hmmm. Definitely also a very brittle energy right now. I hope it gets better for both of us! I'm sure it will(:

I have tJupiter and tVenus conjunct my natal Chiron. Venus is my chart ruler (both sidereal & tropical chart). My progressed Venus is also conjunct chiron.........

Tranist Uranus is almost exactly sqaure my exact natal conjunction of Uranus / Neptune... WHICH tPluto is sitting right on top of........

Hmmm.

posted July 19, 2015 11:33 PM            

What is real? What isn't? Just HOW far do things go? Sometimes, it's hard to say.

posted July 20, 2015 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
Don't worry about feeling this way! It's totally normal.

I allllways question my spiritual beliefs (Neptune and Jupiter retrograde) but personally the one thing I always fall back on is this amazing low key psychic that just knew everything.

I sometimes have this inner conflict between what's practical and what's spiritual. It's totally okay to question your beliefs! Maybe you need to ask yourself some questions on what is making you uncomfortable and how you can move forward.

Say there's a particular thing you read that you once believed in but you started questioning it. Totally okay! Just do some research. Maybe that's not a part of you and you will stumble across something else that resonates with your soul.

Contrary to most religions I think we should definitely question our beliefs because how else will we get a depose understanding of spirituality and where we fit into it?? Or rather how it fits with us.

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posted July 20, 2015 12:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi Gabby,

Like you, I'm having tr Neptune square natal Neptune. Life is but a dream..?

Also Rick Levine says in his monthly forecast this month that it's a rare case where the outer planets are not forming any aspects with each other. Usually, he says, the aspects formed by outer planets determine the overriding theme for that time period.

This month there is no theme. It's like everything is up for grabs.

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Life is but a dream/nightmare?? Lol

posted July 20, 2015 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by SnowCatcher:
Yes!!! We're feeling the same thing, this is weird. I actually almost just teared up (and I'm a dude! hahaha) thinking about something from many years ago, hmmm. Definitely also a very brittle energy right now. I hope it gets better for both of us! I'm sure it will(:

I have tJupiter and tVenus conjunct my natal Chiron. Venus is my chart ruler (both sidereal & tropical chart). My progressed Venus is also conjunct chiron.........

Tranist Uranus is almost exactly sqaure my exact natal conjunction of Uranus / Neptune... WHICH tPluto is sitting right on top of........

Hmmm.

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We have some very similar themes in our charts, my natal and your progressed/transits....
My natal Venus in 1st in my chart ruler, it's conjunct Pluto in my AC
My Venus opposes Chiron(5degree)
My Venus opposed Jupiter(4 degree)
My Chiron conjunct Jupiter(9 degrees)
Tr. Uranus is opposed my nVenus(0 degree)
Tr. Uranus is on my nVertex and coming up on my nChiron

Wonder if those of us ruled by Venus are feeling a love void?? Lol
Pluto/Mars are t-squaring my Jupiter...yuck!!

posted July 20, 2015 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Is it a transit?

I was really feeling pretty good in my lil bubble regarding the particular path I was on, then a few things dropped in my lap and now im not sure what to believe. I'm so confused, this could change my outlook on spirituality completely and open my eyes to see new doors but I'm not sure if they are valid doors I want to open. I'm just confused!!
Is anyone else feeling a confusion, it's like another "losing my religion" day for me...which seems to be a theme in my life!
Funny...I don't have a religion to lose at this point but my concepts on God and the universe have been shaken leaving me to wonder where I fit in.

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Soul = dust
Spirit = Wind
All we are is dust in the wind.
All we are > souls truly directed by the spirit/.
And yes, the winds of change are upon us and YOU feel THAT.
Each incarnation we have is a gift, but we are not the incarnation, we are the soul to which life is given.
Cling not to the world, this whirl, this turn gives way to another.
Tho it may feel as if things are sliding in all directions , you are blessed in that you feel the turning/.

posted July 20, 2015 12:35 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Honestly, I've felt this way for quite a few years. In fact, I would say it is a big part of who I am.. Sadly. (not to play the "poor ol' me" card.. lol) These are the places my mind is ALWAYS at. I think my strongly aspected Saturn Pisces has a lot to do with it. xD Also, I would say it has a bit to do with my Pluto aspects/placement.. "Pluto really shakes things up.. Smashes the mirror then makes YOU put the pieces back together" is something I once thought about Pluto.. I actually wrote a whole page on that though.. xD

What is real? What isn't? Just HOW far do things go? Sometimes, it's hard to say.

I hope you the best, Gabby! Much love, peace, health and wealth to you!

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posted July 20, 2015 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Thank you! I've been doing a lot of questioning my religious beliefs... it's hard when you don't feel you have a guide. I guess that's why religion is so popular, even if it's not exactly correct, you don't have to think about that or try to figure out what is correct...you can blindly follow it.
I would love to find a good guide, like your psychic who can give some grounding information to let you know your on the right path.
I'll do more research as you suggested...thank you!

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I completely agree..

Any time we experience anything in the metaphysical, it can be difficult, because it isn't like we can go to just anyone for help. And that's the thing.. Sometimes, in the deepest parts of the spiritual sojourn, we WON'T get help.. We will be confused, and it may be a bit of a struggle. But.. The thing we have to realize is, sometimes that is the only way we can TRULY learn from these experiences. Sometimes we must first not understand something, so one day we understand how it felt to feel that way. (as much of a paradox as that is.. lol)

posted July 20, 2015 12:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
Soul = dust
Spirit = Wind
All we are is dust in the wind.
All we are > souls truly directed by the spirit/.
And yes, the winds of change are upon us and YOU feel THAT.
Each incarnation we have is a gift, but we are not the incarnation, we are the soul to which life is given.
Cling not to the world, this whirl, this turn gives way to another.
Tho it may feel as if things are sliding in all directions , you are blessed in that you feel the turning/.

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posted July 20, 2015 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
I completely agree..

Any time we experience anything in the metaphysical, it can be difficult, because it isn't like we can go to just anyone for help. And that's the thing.. Sometimes, in the deepest parts of the spiritual sojourn, we WON'T get help.. We will be confused, and it may be a bit of a struggle. But.. The thing we have to realize is, sometimes that is the only way we can TRULY learn from these experiences. Sometimes we must first not understand something, so one day we understand how it felt to feel that way. (as much of a paradox as that is.. lol)

Kind of makes me think of Ophelia, and her play in my chart.. Which, I never did finish my reply to that thread.. I may finish it soon, if you are still interested in what I have to say. xD

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posted July 20, 2015 12:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Is it a transit?

I was really feeling pretty good in my lil bubble regarding the particular path I was on, then a few things dropped in my lap and now im not sure what to believe. I'm so confused, this could change my outlook on spirituality completely and open my eyes to see new doors but I'm not sure if they are valid doors I want to open. I'm just confused!!
Is anyone else feeling a confusion, it's like another "losing my religion" day for me...which seems to be a theme in my life!
Funny...I don't have a religion to lose at this point but my concepts on God and the universe have been shaken leaving me to wonder where I fit in.

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Anyway (here have some anecdotal), my cousin who hung himself 5 days after my 40th birthday. It has been a year and a half. We were close. I was alone last week and asked him why. I got hit with the word "RELEASE". That word reverberated through me like I was a very large bell.

Charlie, my ex lover and sort of nemesis, hung himself last summer. I had not seen in decades. When I was told this news, I was fine. I went out on my front porch and his scent was potent.

I could go on; however, life, Gabby, is telling you to open up.

posted July 20, 2015 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Thank you! I've been doing a lot of questioning my religious beliefs...it's hard when you don't feel you have a guide. I guess that's why religion is so popular, even if it's not exactly correct, you don't have to think about that or try to figure out what is correct...you can blindly follow it.
I would love to find a good guide, like your psychic who can give some grounding information to let you know your on the right path.
I'll do more research as you suggested...thank you!

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Actually I met a teacher who ended up being my mentor and now friend! He was the one that saw the psychic for me and completely changed my life.

posted July 20, 2015 01:07 AM            

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Originally posted by fireopal09:
It is perfectly fine to be confused, Gabby. I've been an on and off atheist for many decades. I still don't believe in deities.

Astrology is a psychological map in my humble opinion. This is a 4,000 year old art form. It predates Abrahamic doctrines.

Anyway (here have some anecdotal), my cousin who hung himself 5 days after my 40th birthday. It has been a year and a half. We were close. I was alone last week and asked him why. I got hit with the word "RELEASE". That word reverberated through me like I was a very large bell.

Charlie, my ex lover and sort of nemesis, hung himself last summer. I had not seen in decades. When I was told this news, I was fine. I went out on my front porch and his scent was potent.

I could go on; however, life, Gabby, is telling you to open up.

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I'm so sorry for what you've went through! So strange in the past 3 years my sister in law, uncle and an ex bf all committed suicude also...it's been a struggle to ponder this, so I try not to.

posted July 20, 2015 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
Also Gabby if you need to vent to someone about your confusions and/or want advice on other ideas from other faiths I'm totally down for that.

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posted July 20, 2015 01:40 AM            

I've dealt with with 4 suicides in the last 20 years. I'm not even including the 20th century suicides. This is a hard, unusual grief. You have to live the grief. This is not something you can sweep under the rug. You will damage your mental health if you do. You are a survivor and must take care of yourself.