posted July 25, 2015 09:12 PM            

Soulmates and twin flames may well exist. Time will tell whether he is someone you are meant to be connected to in this life.
A strong, super intense... sexual attraction... is not an indication that he's "the one". It's more like an indication that you might be sexually well matched, and you might have Venus/Mars or AC/Venus, AC/Mars aspects.

posted July 25, 2015 09:26 PM            

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posted July 25, 2015 09:35 PM            

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If you only just met - and you are neither friends nor lovers - and you can't stop thinking about him... this is: sexual attraction.

Soulmates and twin flames may well exist. Time will tell whether he is someone you are meant to be connected to in this life.
A strong, super intense... sexual attraction... is not an indication that he's "the one". It's more like an indication that you might be sexually well matched, and you might have Venus/Mars or AC/Venus, AC/Mars aspects.

I don't think the synastry and composite will tell you all that much at this stage. You need to interact, get closer and become friends - to really *feel* the psychological/astrological vibes between you.

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posted July 25, 2015 09:36 PM            

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Reading -- What do you think happens when a person's twin-flame... has an identical twin sibling (with an almost identical natal chart)?
Do you think the twin sibling could be a second twin-flame? Or a soulmate?

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Twin flame is a spiritual connection. It has nothing to do with biology.
And I honestly donīt think it has much to do with natal charts either.

I think astrology can show what kind of human relationship the twins will have, but it canīt show if they ARE twin flames.

Iīm interested to see what kind of astrology twin flames would have, in other words what kind of human relationship they might chose to have with eachother?
I honetly think every twin flame couple would be unique and have a unique synstry and composite, but I just like to play with different ideas and discuss this.

posted July 25, 2015 09:39 PM            

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Twin flame is a spiritual connection. It has nothing to do with biology.

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posted July 25, 2015 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Yeah.. I'm sure she knows that. Her post would probably make more sense to you if I kept my original post up. She makes a very good point, and I'm going to think on what she asked.

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posted July 25, 2015 09:51 PM            

But most importantly I don't think twin flames meet until the two people are ready to become a Christ being and ascended master.

posted July 25, 2015 09:53 PM            

Let me just add that I did spend alot of time around him and got to know his "personality": It was not compatible with mine at all. YWhenever we talked it was like we both went "Huh?" So psychologically we werenīt well matched. He also had a different outlook on life then me. He was more into material stuff, making money, building a business, whereas I am not interested in material things at all.
Yet when we were quiet and looked into eachothers eyes it felt like being pulled into him, like there was a total understanding, not because we were alike, but because we were opposites that fit. I know that that is pretty common, but something about it felt different. He was not interested and I moved on.

posted July 25, 2015 10:30 PM            

In my opinion, people who have dealt with abandonment during their childhood years (for instance, a missing parent.. a parent who died, a parent who was ill.. or a parent who was abusive)... have an even harder time dealing with romantic rejection.

Meeting and knowing this guy had a powerful psychological impact on you - so I do believe that this connection between you was karmic. I also think you have a lot to learn from it.
But from what you're describing here.. I don't believe this is a twin-flame connection.

posted July 25, 2015 10:30 PM            

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Yeah.. I'm sure she knows that. Her post would probably make more sense to you if I kept my original post up. She makes a very good point, and I'm going to think on what she asked.

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posted July 25, 2015 10:35 PM            

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Little Doe... I don't remember the older thread where I replied to you. But I'll say this...
It's hard for everyone to deal with 'unrequited love' situations.
Everyone goes through this and everyone gets hurt.

In my opinion, people who have dealt with abandonment during their childhood years (for instance, a missing parent.. a parent who died, a parent who was ill.. or a parent who was abusive)... have an even harder time dealing with romantic rejection.

Meeting and knowing this guy had a powerful psychological impact on you - so I do believe that this connection between you was karmic. I also think you have a lot to learn from it.
But from what you're describing here.. I don't believe this is a twin-flame connection.

The fact that you were hung up on this for several years... is not trivial or meaningless. It really tells you something about *yourself* and where you are at. You know yourself better than anyone else does, so I can't give you advice on healing. But -- imo, the best thing you could take from this, is - learning to really love yourself (through and through) and not allowing your sense of self-worth to be dependent on someone else' approval or love.

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posted July 26, 2015 04:43 AM            

Hi Little Doe!
It's nice to see you. I remember you talking about someone special to you a while ago, is it the same person?

Do you guys have 12H synastry?

I'm sorry you've been so affected by this experience. I know it's hard, because I've been there...

Glad to hear you're happy with your boyfriend, though! That's great news.

posted July 26, 2015 05:56 AM            

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Twin flame is a spiritual connection. It has nothing to do with biology.
And I honestly donīt think it has much to do with natal charts either.

I think astrology can show what kind of human relationship the twins will have, but it canīt show if they ARE twin flames.

Iīm interested to see what kind of astrology twin flames would have, in other words what kind of human relationship they might chose to have with eachother?
I honetly think every twin flame couple would be unique and have a unique synstry and composite, but I just like to play with different ideas and discuss this.

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I think it all depends on what everyone understands by Twinflames. Personally, I use the original concept, Plato's. Based on that, a twinflame relationship represents the ultimate successful love/romantic union. (which includes, in all cases, mutuality)

Synastrically speaking, it gives (at least theoretically) a chart of perfect compatibility.

I'm very fond of the Twinflame concept, and it relates to other modern theories, such as Jung's Anima/Animus.

Twinflame love is the farthest away from unrequited, one-sided love.

There are many threads on Twinflames in Interpersonal Astrology; this is one I did:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000313.html

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posted July 26, 2015 06:33 AM            

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Odette

Hi Little Doe!
It's nice to see you. I remember you talking about someone special to you a while ago, is it the same person?

Do you guys have 12H synastry?

I'm sorry you've been so affected by this experience. I know it's hard, because I've been there...

Glad to hear you're happy with your boyfriend, though! That's great news.

I hope you will find a way to fully move on from that experience so you'll be only focused on your current partner with no hints of haunted memories.
(Venus turning retro probably won't help much with this, however...)

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Hi!
Yes, it is the same guy. The attraction was so intense yet awkward,and eventually I stopped working in his area. It has been very hard moving on. The feelings are still very charged, mostly in a negative way (me being scorpionic too). It will take a long time to get over this for real, like find inner peace with what happned. And maybe the Fwin flame label isnīt helpful.

I never knew his birth time,so donīt know if we had 12th house synastry.
I do know that he didnīt put anything in my 12th house. He did put his mars, pluto and saturn in my 1st house. It felt like he was burning my ascendant/personality.
His venus was in my 2nd house, sun and mercury in 3rd. So all in all not very deep house overlays.

I absolutuely adore my new boyfriend. I just hope we make it through the venus retrograde. He is very scorpionic too, and right now weīre going through a small crisis in the relationship. I hope all turns out for the best.
Me and my boyfriend have an amazing synastry, he puts his moon in my 12th, I put my sun in his 12th and we have tons of 8th house overlays.
It is a deep, emotional relationship.

posted July 26, 2015 06:44 AM            

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I think it all depends on what everyone understands by Twinflames. Personally, I use the original concept, Plato's. Based on that, a twinflame relationship represents the ultimate successful love/romantic union. (which includes, in all cases, mutuality)

Synastrically speaking, it gives (at least theoretically) a chart of perfect compatibility.

I'm very fond of the Twinflame concept,and it relates to other modern theories, such as Jung's Anima/Animus.

Twinflame love is the farthest away from unrequited, one-sided love.

There are many threads on Twinflames in Interpersonal Astrology; this is one I did:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000313.html

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Oh man, itīs no wonder that so much confusion arises when people discuss twin flames. To me your definition is not at all what I mean. Yes, TFs love eachother equally of course. But I define TFs as a strictly spiritual bond. It has nothing to do with the human relationship. So to me a TW could be unrequated in the sense that maybe one wants a relationship and the other doesnīt. One might be romantically interested while the other doesnīt. One might even be sexually interested while the other doesnīt. The only thing a TF is is the exact opposite expression of your soul, so the mutual love is a mutual SPIRITUAL love.
I have had mystical experiences of my twin shortly before I met this guy. He came in a dream and just stood next to me. I was schocked by the sensation, because he communicated thelepathically that he loved me, and the "Love" was not at all human, like "I want you ,I admire you, I desire you". It was about complete penetration of my being, as if his energy WAS me, and yet not. And his energy was telling me I love you, I love you.. meny meny times, and by that he meant I KNOW you. Thatīs where the intensity came from, the understanding.
When I met this guy a couple of weeks later I had that feeling like his energy was telling me this. I knew him on a soul level.
So, I made the huge mistake (no knowing any better) to pursue him, because I thought that he MUST love me like this in a human way too. Which was NOT the case.
Part of the reason why itīs so hard to find peace is because I was given these mystical experiences, and then thrown back to reality. And it made me feel crazy. I still feel like Iīll never be the same.

posted July 26, 2015 07:05 AM            

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Oh man, itīs no wonder that so much confusion arises when people discuss twin flames. To me your definition is not at all what I mean. Yes, TFs love eachother equally of course. But I define TFs as a strictly spiritual bond. It has nothing to do with the human relationship. So to me a TW could be unrequated in the sense that maybe one wants a relationship and the other doesnīt. One might be romantically interested while the other doesnīt. One might even be sexually interested while the other doesnīt. The only thing a TF is is the exact opposite expression of your soul, so the mutual love is a mutual SPIRITUAL love.
I have had mystical experiences of my twin shortly before I met this guy. He came in a dream and just stood next to me. I was schocked by the sensation, because he communicated thelepathically that he loved me, and the "Love" was not at all human, like "I want you ,I admire you, I desire you". It was about complete penetration of my being, as if his energy WAS me, and yet not. And his energy was telling me I love you, I love you.. meny meny times, and by that he meant I KNOW you. Thatīs where the intensity came from, the understanding.
When I met this guy a couple of weeks later I had that feeling like his energy was telling me this. I knew him on a soul level.
So, I made the huge mistake (no knowing any better) to pursue him, because I thought that he MUST love me like this in a human way too. Which was NOT the case.
Part of the reason why itīs so hard to find peace is because I was given these mystical experiences, and then thrown back to reality. And it made me feel crazy. I still feel like Iīll never be the same.

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Sorry, but this doesn't make sense to me.

First of all, Twin Flame (aka Twin Soul) means "the other half of your soul". No one using this term disputes that, for this is its definition.

So obviously a connection between you and the other half of your soul is the opposite of unrequited and one-sided. If not even the other half of your soul loves you, then who does??

Also, the term BOND (and I am not talking about James here) implies a MUTUAL connection - again, the opposite of unrequited/one sided. When it comes to the concept of Twin, this bond actually manifests by the two of them feeling the same for each other, and usually at the same time. They are perfectly in sync, at least when it comes to feelings. But being synchronized in everything is a characteristic of TFs; for example, they often experience similar life events, roughly at the same time.

What you describe is mostly a one-sided crush for someone, a crush that affects YOU deeply. Nothing to do with TF's, really; unless he feels the same about you, to say the least.

I mean, even being the fan of a celebrity, me being impressed with Mandela's life for instance, can change someone's life, affect them deeply; it doesn't mean there's an actual bond between me and Madiba here.

EDIT: and another important note: when you finally meet the other half of your soul in real life, your masculine counterpart, nothing and no one can stop you from being together, because this is the purpose of existence, this union.

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posted July 26, 2015 07:15 AM            

So it is very likely what you saw is not another person, but your own Animus.

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posted July 26, 2015 08:39 AM            

I do want to underline though that I didn't coin the definition. Therefore, neither of us can have their own definition for it. (Of course, we can all make our own theories about soul connections of all kinds)

But this concept (Twinflames) belongs to Plato, one of the greatest minds, and it was reintroduced by New Age thinkers, such as Michael Teachings.

Actually, it's an universal myth, found in all major cultures in one form or another, the myth of the Androgyne. (a term also made famous by Plato)

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