posted July 30, 2015 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Most caps I know don't drag people down on purpose, and don't find one-upmanship appealing. Some don't do it because it doesn't give any results worth noting - pointless. Some who are more devious don't do it because it creates unnecessary resentment that can be detrimental to their ladder climb. It's sort of like revealing one's weak spots. The depressed ones are most likely to sulk on their own away from everyone, either because they want to protect their pride, or because they don't want to cause others to worry.

I've never been depressed, but when I'm sad, disappointed or in a rotten mood, I almost always choose to isolate myself for a while and vent my dark thoughts to the walls.

Another thing is that caps give credit when it's due. Resilience is highly valued. It's not about status, it's about what people have done to get to where they are. I personally admire people who play the hands they're dealt and play to the best of their ability.

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posted July 30, 2015 12:54 PM            

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Originally posted by goddessinworld:
I love capricorns. I think they are amazing. The reason why people think they are cold, boring, depressing or whatever is because they are different in the ways they express themselves. Honestly, capricorns are so caring and can make someone feel so special.

But I guess it also has to do with how a capricorn deals with saturn's lessons. Those who cannot seem to grow and struggle with saturn may be actually drained of life. Maybe.

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posted July 30, 2015 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by goddessofthemoon:
You're literally generalizing one sign by thinking they're all the same. If you really feel they are all insecure and make comments to make others look bad, think about what kind of person YOU are. When people act a certain way to someone, they will have a reaction. So there must be something you're doing if you really see ALL capricorns as insecure / trying to drag someone else down.

I'm a Capricorn and have 3 Cap family members as well as have been friends with plenty. Out of all of my Capricorn friends, only one hurt other people intentionally. But that has to do with so much more than him having a Capricorn sun.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Cap suns but the beginning of your post is just unfair and rude to stereotype us ALL like that.

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posted July 30, 2015 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Have you ever dealt with someone with strong cap or saturn influence and not someone with only their sun in cap? Bc i so second what theunknown said. They do have a bad habit of trying to make you feel down if you make them feel insecure for whatever reason, this to me is the worst quality i find in caps/saturnian types. It can be very draining to be around them the sec you make them feel insecure or if that saturnian/cap is not very happy within in themselves.

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I find this to resonate with unevolved expression of Scorpio and Virgo.

posted July 30, 2015 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by aleenaxo:
I find this to resonate with unevolved expression of Scorpio and Virgo.

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posted July 30, 2015 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Have you ever dealt with someone with strong cap or saturn influence and not someone with only their sun in cap? Bc i so second what theunknown said. They do have a bad habit of trying to make you feel down if you make them feel insecure for whatever reason, this to me is the worst quality i find in caps/saturnian types. It can be very draining to be around them the sec you make them feel insecure or if that saturnian/cap is not very happy within in themselves.

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posted July 30, 2015 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Have you ever dealt with someone with strong cap or saturn influence and not someone with only their sun in cap? Bc i so second what theunknown said. They do have a bad habit of trying to make you feel down if you make them feel insecure for whatever reason, this to me is the worst quality i find in caps/saturnian types. It can be very draining to be around them the sec you make them feel insecure or if that saturnian/cap is not very happy within in themselves.

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posted July 30, 2015 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Straight out, Cap women are sexy. Yeah, there is a susceptibility to self doubt. That's why they need a 10th house Leo Moon to cheer them up :-)

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posted July 30, 2015 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by StillTippin:
Esp. Virgos, if they are insecure they nit pick the hell out of you and can make a shaky person feel very insecure.

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posted July 30, 2015 03:25 PM            

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You're literally generalizing one sign by thinking they're all the same. If you really feel they are all insecure and make comments to make others look bad, think about what kind of person YOU are. When people act a certain way to someone, they will have a reaction. So there must be something you're doing if you really see ALL capricorns as insecure / trying to drag someone else down.

I'm a Capricorn and have 3 Cap family members as well as have been friends with plenty. Out of all of my Capricorn friends, only one hurt other people intentionally. But that has to do with so much more than him having a Capricorn sun.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with Cap suns but the beginning of your post is just unfair and rude to stereotype us ALL like that.

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a - i was responding to someone who said caps dont drag people down. That to me is a false statement. My responding statement wasn't that all caps drag people down, but rather a casual statement in response to the earlier statement. And no, I wasn't just talking about Capricorn suns, but saturnians. Although Capricorn suns show these qualities more because it is their identity/self
b- it is my understanding being with several capricorns that they can be very pessimistic. Call that "realistic" if you want but if your own fears are holding you back from trying new things ... then that's not realistic to me. And hence the reputation of Caps being boring.
c-I wasn't being unfair. I wrote in the next paragraphs that caps will not wrong people. And saying little comments here and there is hardly wronging someone. Other signs might have worse tendencies.

I believe that all caps are weighed down by insecurities more so than many other signs because they want to achieve so much. They want to challenge themselves to be someone important. No caps I have met have not had the desire to be known for something, and some can be resentful that they are not popular like others because they are perceived as "boring."

I dont think my post is unfair or rude either. I wrote a whole paragraph on why Caps are not boring as people.

posted July 30, 2015 11:04 PM            

This coming from someone with Capricorn on their 11th house cusp. My very best friends are cappys! I've got a lot of nice things to say about them, but let's start with the bad:

You're ruled by Saturn. Doesn't get more depressing/boring than that. You're dealing with life's biggest hurdles! And I'm sorry, but unless you've got a heck of a lot of fire combined in your chart, you guys don't know how to loosen up!

Now here's the good news:

No one gives advice like a cap. I can't think of another sign I'd rather sit around drinking wine with and pouring my heart out to. Their advice is invaluable. Why? Because chances are, they've already been through it and 10x worse than you.

Even more good news:

The older you guys get, the more life removes the brooms from your...just kidding Seriously though, one thing I notice about older caps is that they appreciate life more. There's more of a twinkle to their eyes. You guys really do age in reverse. Perks of the Saturn rewards.

posted July 30, 2015 11:25 PM            

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I believe that all caps are weighed down by insecurities more so than many other signs because they want to achieve so much. They want to challenge themselves to be someone important. No caps I have met have not had the desire to be known for something,

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Not all caps are weighed down by insecurities because we want achievements or want to be someone important. We have insecurities, but they aren't stemmed from those. Me and several of my cap friends are happy just doing what we do and living a simple life.

It's not about popularity. Not for me, not for the caps I know. We like our alone time too much for that, and a big part of our energy is spent on the ones who are close to us. But sometimes when people make it seem as if our personality and the way we express ourselves a flaw, make comments and give suggestions that we should change, it gets old and annoying. I personally have experienced that so many times and phew - pretty unpleasant.

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posted July 31, 2015 12:36 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:

Not all caps are weighed down by insecurities because we want achievements or want to be someone important. We have insecurities, but they aren't stemmed from those. Me and several of my cap friends are happy just doing what we do and living a simple life.

It's not about popularity. Not for me, not for the caps I know. We like our alone time too much for that, and a big part of our energy is spent on the ones who are close to us. But sometimes when people make it seem as if our personality and the way we express ourselves a flaw, make comments and give suggestions that we should change, it gets old and annoying. I personally have experienced that so many times and phew - pretty unpleasant.

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In my late teens to early twenties, I used to absolutely detest when someone said things like "Why do you take grades/school/work so seriously" or "Why do you work so much". On one hand I understood that they only commented on what they saw and did not know the whole story (not that I would tell them). On the other hand, I disliked that they made comments on things they didn't understand.

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Love this. As a cap ascendant I really resonate with this. The last two years of high school I did not care at all about popularity and saw everyone as an equal which ironically brought more of those people into my life. My days in school were all about studying. Even during lunch and spares I would sit in the caf by myself, eat, and study. Not because I wanted to "be someone" but because I wanted to be responsible. And I have a Leo moon & Sun in the fifth.

posted July 31, 2015 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
[B]I definitely don't think Capricorns are depressing though.[b]

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posted July 31, 2015 09:08 AM            

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I think a lot of people think that Saturnians are like that because they mix up sign interpretations and house interpretations. The tenth house is more about social standing, but saying that all capricorns are also about social standings is like saying all Libras care about business partnerships. No, that's a house thing. They're similar but NOT the same.

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That's a good point.

I've actually never known a social climbing Capricorn sun. And I have known a ton of Capricorns. Many have attained wealth or prestige, but have no interest in showcasing it, or making others feel inferior.

Capricorn relationships are built on deeper connections, and we are loyal. I think this is why it disgusts us to be told that we reject people for superficial reasons. That is the OPPOSITE of how we are.

posted July 31, 2015 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by goddessofthemoon:
Why do people assume Capricorn's to be boring or even depressing?

I feel like if there's one sign that gets judged the most it's Capricorn. But maybe I'm just feeling a bit defensive

I know that people view Capricorn's nicely as well, in the sense that we're very motivated and determined to be successful.

I'm a Capricorn sun and don't feel I'm boring or depressive as well. I know that we're so much more than our sun, but I admit, it gets annoying to hear that all the time.

What exactly causes us to seem boring? Does it have anything to do with Saturn?

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I think so.

I have Venus-Saturn conjunct. And most people think that I am conservative, boring and serious.

This despite it being offset by Sun-Jupiter-Neptune conjunct.

I think Caps find it hard to relax.Or they really don't "get" the concept of "fun".

That is why Leo is on the 8th house cusp? Because that part of themselves is hidden?