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Topic: Astrology of late bloomers??
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 7268 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted August 07, 2015 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Free Leon: I feel Saturn and Moon in a very loose conjunction; I can relate to the descriptions of the aspect, but its nowhere near as extreme or debilitating. In my experiences it just makes me cool, calm, and composed, but its in Aries so thats all thrown out the window if I lose my temper.As far as past life/karma goes, I feel as though I'm coming from past lives that were defined by extreme responsibilities (a position of leadership). In this life I haven't been forced to take on many responsibilities, but I have a tendency to seek them out anyway (weird huh, who wants responsibilities/obligations ). My life DOES seem out of my control, but not in a bad way. It feels as though its unfolding/blooming like a flower/moving along perfectly like the gears in a Swiss watch. It seems like many (if not all) of the major decisions in my life were predetermined by some other force...
I have a Pluto/Venus(8 degrees) conjunction with Pluto on my AC. I've had ppl tell me that's to far to really feel but like you I disagree...I feel it but it's more of an ambient energy, it doesn't rule me but it's still there having it's affect in a less direct way. Like you I also think I feel the strength without all the negatives causes by the tight conjunction. I didn't mean to say you didn't have a conjunction between them because yes, you do!! I meant to say you didn't have a TIGHT conjunction which is what causes the insecurities. IP: Logged |
Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 189 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 07, 2015 01:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I have a Pluto/Venus(8 degrees) conjunction with Pluto on my AC. I've had ppl tell me that's to far to really feel but like you I disagree...I feel it but it's more of an ambient energy, it doesn't rule me but it's still there having it's affect in a less direct way. Like you I also think I feel the strength without all the negatives causes by the tight conjunction. I didn't mean to say you didn't have a conjunction between them because yes, you do!! I meant to say you didn't have a TIGHT conjunction which is what causes the insecurities.
No worries, I understood what you meant Ambient energy is a perfect term for how loose conjunctions feel. I liken tight conjunctions to a forced, intimate hug between two planets, which would cause problems if they don't like each other/are incompatible. With a loose conjunction, say between 6-10 degrees, its like they're holding hands while taking a walk in the park, so even if the planets aren't compatible (like Moon/Saturn or Venus/Pluto) they can still tolerate each other and make it work. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 07, 2015 05:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini30: I hear lunarians are late bloomers. Lots of moon aspects, moon in the 1st house, etc.
I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this because I am a cancer moon and such a late bloomer. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1162 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 07, 2015 05:13 AM
I am a late bloomer.Physically I looked like a string bean 12 year old until I hit my 20s. My voice still sounds really young. Not like a young girl or a baby voice. But like that justin bieberish how girls and boys soundvthe same way when theyre really young... voice. I still dont really make friends and while I'm more socially normal, I still feel very awkward around people. But Im better than I was. I feel like Ive found my calling but I still have a long way to go. IP: Logged |
Meatballzzzzzz Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Earth Registered: Jun 2015
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posted August 07, 2015 09:57 AM
I am a late bloomer as well.In my chart, I have an afflicted Moon. It opposes Sun, Uranus, Neptune and Venus and conjunct SN and Chiron. I also think my Saturn is responsible for it too. I have a Capricorn Saturn in the 4/5 house. It's conjunct my Venus and NN and opposite Chiron. I'm not sure if the outer planets take any part in it, but I have Uranus and Neptune conjunct Sun opposite Moon and Pluto square Jupiter. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 237 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2014
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posted August 07, 2015 07:57 PM
Late bloomer here.Saturn in Pisces, in the third, wide opposition to Moon, sextile to Venus. 3 placements in the 4th house. IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 07, 2015 08:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Late bloomer here.Saturn in Pisces, in the third, wide opposition to Moon, sextile to Venus. 3 placements in the 4th house.
I wonder if the Cancer/Capricorn is the axis of the late bloomers? IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3213 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted August 08, 2015 11:47 AM
Saturn on the 1st/7th axis Saturn making hard aspects to the personal planets (Sun, Venus etc)Saturn deals with karma and time. When a person isn't evolved enough, isn't mature or has developed well his personality, his identity regarding himself and in interaction with other people, Saturn comes and force him to do so until some karmic lessons has been well learned. Usually Saturn lessons are seen as a bad thing but don't good things come to those to wait and are mature enough to appreciate them?
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Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 08, 2015 12:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: Saturn on the 1st/7th axis Saturn making hard aspects to the personal planets (Sun, Venus etc)Saturn deals with karma and time. When a person isn't evolved enough, isn't mature or has developed well his personality, his identity regarding himself and in interaction with other people, Saturn comes and force him to do so until some karmic lessons has been well learned. Usually Saturn lessons are seen as a bad thing but don't good things come to those to wait and are mature enough to appreciate them?
People like me probably got away with a lot of bad stuff in past lives, and now are asked to take responsibility for our actions. I probably didn't even suffer, even a little, for any of my negative actions. Then came this lifetime.
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RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 51 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 08, 2015 12:42 PM
I am a late bloomer (in relationships mostly) but also in other aspects... I have Saturn in twelfth conj. Pisces Rising. I always self-doubt myself, but I'm slowly learning to accept myself and build my confidence. It's this feeling that I am years behind of others in term of adequacy, yet everyone tells me how reliable and responsible I am, making me learn slowly that I am a capable women. Funny enough, for those who said lunarians are late bloomers, I have my moon in seventh in the critical degree of libra (0'33) and never have been in a relationship. I've kissed, I've had intercourse, one night partners and all, but never did I enter a romantic relationship I could name as such, even for a day. If I tried, I did everything to sabotage myself and the potential of the relationship uncounsciously... I'm also tempted to say that a strong pluto, or pluto conj N.node tends to cause late bloomers, or more like such an important amount of self transformation that the person doesn't truly feel content with itself before late in life, where she/he usually is completely different than what he/she was as a kid/teen.
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1120 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 08, 2015 12:48 PM
Taurus Ascendant.Saturn square Ascendant/ Sun/ Mars/ Venus. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 3213 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted August 08, 2015 12:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: People like me probably got away with a lot of bad stuff in past lives, and now are asked to take responsibility for our actions. I probably didn't even suffer, even a little, for any of my negative actions. Then came this lifetime.
You are right.
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Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 938 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 08, 2015 01:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: What's in the charts of late bloomers? Like people who don't come into themselves until a little later in life?I'm thinking of people who don't make friends until they're 19, or people who don't find their talents or calling until they're like 25. People who don't have their first dates until 22, or people who don't lose their virginity until like 27, or anything along these lines?
I'm smiling and laughing inside, because apparently you have no clue about what 'late bloomer' can really mean and just how 'late' some bloom, but okay... Astrologically this can be seen in heavy fixity, particularly of the Taurean sort, but also Saturn factors. In addition, other zodiacal emphasis in signs of caution like Cancer, Pisces, Cap. Occasionally Neptune is involved. When the Asc figure is exactly correct, then you can find this 'slow pace' factor when succedent houses are getting emphasis (2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th). ------------------
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 1572 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2015 02:40 AM
Saturn trining or sextiling the ascendant. IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 09, 2015 10:55 PM
Saturn's one slow....! IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 10, 2015 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: I'm smiling and laughing inside, because apparently you have no clue about what 'late bloomer' can really mean and just how 'late' some bloom, but okay...Astrologically this can be seen in heavy fixity, particularly of the Taurean sort, but also Saturn factors. In addition, other zodiacal emphasis in signs of caution like Cancer, Pisces, Cap. Occasionally Neptune is involved. When the Asc figure is exactly correct, then you can find this 'slow pace' factor when succedent houses are getting emphasis (2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th).
I didn't want to scare people so I picked age 30 or something. Yes, some people are even later in their blooming, like 60, 70, etc, etc. LOL, I'm only 26, I don't want to think about age 60 just yet. IP: Logged |
Southern Sun Knowflake Posts: 93 From: USA Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 10, 2015 02:59 PM
1H Saturn at 8 Cap--i'm still trying to find myself at 26. Its also anchored to Jupiter in 7th. Perhaps why I've never been in what I think is a "true" relationship.IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 938 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 10, 2015 03:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: I didn't want to scare people so I picked age 30 or something. Yes, some people are even later in their blooming, like 60, 70, etc, etc.LOL, I'm only 26, I don't want to think about age 60 just yet.
I gotcha. It would have scared me if I'd been told in my 20s that I wouldn't find a mate until 39 and get married at 41. But really, there's nothing to be scared of. Truth is, we have a lot to learn in our 20s -- and 30s -- that will serve us well if we look at our lives in an optimistic and open manner. My birth chart's heavy fixity (5 planets in fixed signs), with 4 in Taurus + Saturn conjunct & parallel Sun + Moon in Cap in 4th + Virgo rising all made for a 'late bloomer' scenario for me. That matched my pace in life too. That's the key -- being at ease with the reasonable potential of timing of outcomes in life, based on what your comfortable pace is. If you're not comfortable with a go-getter pace, then don't expect things to unfold rapidly. I don't think I had a realistic notion for myself in my 20s -- or of myself. I had dreams, but didn't know how to work towards them. I think it was compounded by the type of small world private schooling I grew up with that kept me from learning more of how the world works. Main thing is to understand that no matter what your birth chart, no matter how things look now, everyone gets their windows of opportunity in life. Some people maximize each one. Others use them for small steps. Its all okay. ------------------
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PaulMcFly Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Olive branch, MS USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 11, 2015 10:41 AM
Lol ok hear me out..this probably relates to meI grew up bullied and alone. Also the only kid..had a ROUGH time through 7th to 11th grade. I'm a scorp rising with pluto first so I'm a loner at heart. Just feel better by myself so when it came to relationships and friendships I didn't start paying attention until I was freaking 19!! Eventually grew into my looks and now I guess I'm a good looking dude but I hate saying that cause I sound like a dick. Resorted to youtube in high school to fill the loneliness and gaimed a following which I still have to this day. I'm still a virgin at the age of 20 but it's kind of by choice/lazy as **** . But girls seem to ALWAYS be intimidated by me but at the same time I'm super youthful looking now thanks to being a late bloomer. My Venus is in 3rd house capricorn sextiling pluto in 1st with sun trine ascendant, saturn trine also. Didn't find my calling until I dropped out of college at 19. Have a moon aquarius and pisces sun. I've always done my own thing and people either LOVE it or HATE it IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 11, 2015 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by PaulMcFly: Lol ok hear me out..this probably relates to meI grew up bullied and alone. Also the only kid..had a ROUGH time through 7th to 11th grade. I'm a scorp rising with pluto first so I'm a loner at heart. Just feel better by myself so when it came to relationships and friendships I didn't start paying attention until I was freaking 19!! Eventually grew into my looks and now I guess I'm a good looking dude but I hate saying that cause I sound like a dick. Resorted to youtube in high school to fill the loneliness and gaimed a following which I still have to this day. I'm still a virgin at the age of 20 but it's kind of by choice/lazy as **** . But girls seem to ALWAYS be intimidated by me but at the same time I'm super youthful looking now thanks to being a late bloomer. My Venus is in 3rd house capricorn sextiling pluto in 1st with sun trine ascendant, saturn trine also. Didn't find my calling until I dropped out of college at 19. Have a moon aquarius and pisces sun. I've always done my own thing and people either LOVE it or HATE it
Wow, so you had like at least 5 hard years in your preteens and teens! Yup, you are a late bloomer, a moderate late bloomer. Some people don't even bloom until 30 or 40. Nice that you got yourself out of those darker years! No, you don't sound like a dick to me. You sound like you went through stuff and are enjoying your life! IP: Logged |
Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 11, 2015 02:44 PM
I would say I am a late bloomer. Did not start my period until I was 16!I have Venus conjunct Saturn. And Cap asc. IP: Logged |
PaulMcFly Knowflake Posts: 46 From: Olive branch, MS USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted August 11, 2015 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: Wow, so you had like at least 5 hard years in your preteens and teens! Yup, you are a late bloomer, a moderate late bloomer. Some people don't even bloom until 30 or 40. Nice that you got yourself out of those darker years! No, you don't sound like a dick to me. You sound like you went through stuff and are enjoying your life!
I thank God everyday for my aquarius moon lmao
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Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted August 11, 2015 04:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Koniucha: I would say I am a late bloomer. Did not start my period until I was 16!I have Venus conjunct Saturn. And Cap asc.
That's a whole lotta Saturn!
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Koniucha Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 11, 2015 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: That's a whole lotta Saturn!
Lol, tell me about. I must have been a wild child in a previous life! Venus is still my number one planet though! IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 281 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 11, 2015 05:02 PM
Saturn Rx in Cap (XI) opp Venus...delayed my first relationship until 22. I have it conjunct Neptune, sextiling Pluto and the Moon and sextile my ASC. Arghhhh, I can feel it delaying my professional life too :-(IP: Logged |