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NYCdodger
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posted August 12, 2015 01:06 PM
  
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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
It's cool--I was never afraid to die though I was never eager to sign off. Mexican heaven sounds awesome to me. I hope it comes packed with some lovely beaches after that nasty drowning.  But truth is, if you believe in reincarnation, heaven doesn't come into play. To me it's one or the other. I guess you could become a Budha and then go to heaven or whatever comes next.It's an interesting topic, either way. 
Even Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is within not without. We are the masters and determiners of what our life is gonna be whether in this body or the next. It makes me laugh because I could never understand why so many religions use fear of going to heaven or hell to draw people in. Life is too vast for us to just be in one body. The entire Universe continues in us IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 12, 2015 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by astra7:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NYCdodger:
[b]4th house Taurus, ruler of my 4th is Venus which is in my Natal 6th house.Haha imma probably die of some illness But Jupiter is also in my 6th house
Could also be work related. Be careful.[/B][/QUOTE]This actually made me smile. It would be an honor to die because of my work related service. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
This actually made me smile. It would be an honor to die because of my work related service.
Do you best to safeguard your life when you always face danger at work but we will all die at some point and if it's your time, you will go at that point. Your benevolence will be credited into the spiritua bank.
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astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Isa:
Hahaha this is a funny thread. My 4th is in Cancer. My moon is in the 6th house. I'll probably get sick and die slowly. Like lung cancer because i'm a smoker.
For lung disease, you will need to look into either Mercury or Gemini and aspects to Mars and Saturn. Do you have a disposition to having weak lungs?
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astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
It's cool--I was never afraid to die though I was never eager to sign off. Mexican heaven sounds awesome to me. I hope it comes packed with some lovely beaches after that nasty drowning. But truth is, if you believe in reincarnation, heaven doesn't come into play. To me it's one or the other. I guess you could become a Budha and then go to heaven or whatever comes next.It's an interesting topic, either way.
That's because most of people don't know how to exit this game.
If you learn how to die, then, you get to choose where you'll end up. Be it coming back here as a hero, leader, entertainer or go to another dimension for a change. This so called reincarnation is a never ending revolving door....until you learn a trick to get out. LOL It's all about knowing the hidden trick.  We are in a best of time to be able to exit if so we wish.I have no intention of coming back here i.e. Hell. lol I am glad, at least you guys/girls are willing to talk about death. Many people are just afraid to even go there...says Pluto in 8th. LOL IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Even Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is within not without. We are the masters and determiners of what our life is gonna be whether in this body or the next. It makes me laugh because I could never understand why so many religions use fear of going to heaven or hell to draw people in. Life is too vast for us to just be in one body. The entire Universe continues in us
Well, religion was set up to control people after all, i.e. mind control.
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Gemmi
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posted August 12, 2015 03:25 PM
The ruler of my 4th house in Saggi, Jupiter is natally in the 3rd house, Scorpio.The ruler of my 8th house in Aries, Mars is also in the 3rd house and conjunct Uranus. Means of transportation come to mind and short distance trips... Not sure if it helps that I don’t have a driving license. Aready Mars conjunct Uranus in 3rd house sounds bad and now this... I was never really motivated to get one…
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astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Gemmi:
The ruler of my 4th house in Saggi, Jupiter is natally in the 3rd house, Scorpio.The ruler of my 8th house in Aries, Mars is also in the 3rd house and conjunct Uranus. Means of transportation come to mind and short distance trips... Not sure if it helps that I don’t have a driving license. Aready Mars conjunct Uranus in 3rd house sounds bad and now this... I was never really motivated to get one…
People who don't drive have had car accident. It's not always your fault. It's the other people. lol
Just watch for dangerous transits and stay at home during such time.
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Free Leon
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posted August 12, 2015 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Even Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is within not without.
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Free Leon
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posted August 12, 2015 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Isa:
My 4th is in Cancer. My moon is in the 6th house. I'll probably get sick and die slowly. Like lung cancer because i'm a smoker.
In Vedic astrology the Moon = the mind. That's why we have words/phrases like lunatic, and lunar madness. If you have Virgo on the 6th House cusp perhaps you'll develop some kind of mental illness (that alone probably won't kill you, but it'll plague you until the end). IP: Logged |
SoaringLeaves
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posted August 12, 2015 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by astra7:
Well, religion was set up to control people after all, i.e. mind control.
You can say that again... The most organic religions, in which humans are harmony with their environment, have no "hell" in the afterlife... only here on Earth. What is the way or what are the choices to make in order not to reincarnate? This is an academic discussion since no one came back, but I'm curious. The Buddhists believe that only if you become a Budha you can escape the circle of reincarnation and becoming a Budha is beyond most of our abilities. As about discussing death, I'm Scorpio rising, with Scorpio Uranus and NN in 12th, and Saturn in 8th. Death just another stage in our lives... not something I'm obsessed with, but neither is something I'm afraid to think about. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Free Leon:
In Vedic astrology the Moon = the mind. That's why we have words/phrases like lunatic, and lunar madness. If you have Virgo on the 6th House cusp perhaps you'll develop some kind of mental illness (that alone probably won't kill you, but it'll plague you until the end).
Well, things like Alzheimer's disease is quite common amongst older people these days since we are bombarded with aluminium powder in chemtrails (yes, these zig zag chess board purposefully drawn in the sky). But if you know how and with right kind of diet/nutrition, detox equipped with healing and bit of magick, you can live a healthy life than those that don't!
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astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
You can say that again... The most organic religions, in which humans are harmony with their environment, have no "hell" in the afterlife... only here on Earth.What is the way or what are the choices to make in order not to reincarnate? This is an academic discussion since no one came back, but I'm curious. The Buddhists believe that only if you become a Budha you can escape the circle of reincarnation and becoming a Budha is beyond most of our abilities. As about discussing death, I'm Scorpio rising, with Scorpio Uranus and NN in 12th, and Saturn in 8th. Death just another stage in our lives... not something I'm obsessed with, but neither is something I'm afraid to think about.
I studied Tibetan Buddhism for a while and they talk about Buddha nature and all that which makes it too philosophical and rather difficult to grasp. I am studying with Sergio Magana and he is teaching an oral tradition Toltec techniques and he taught us how to die. If anyone is serious about not reincarnating, I suggest you attend his Healing with Black Light workshop. He taught us the techniques over the weekend when I didn't get it with years of Buddhism meditation. Sergio made it so easy.As for Hell.... Mexicans also call it underworld (how Plutonian is that!?). Also there are different places where demons exist as well so in a way, hell does exists. Buddhism is hot on karma but when I learned the Toltec teaching, I realised that there is no karma which is carried over etc because if you know how to exit this life, you can go to heaven or enter oneness, it's your choice. I and other like minded people suspected this since karma just didn't add up after studying reincarnation stories etc. Now is the best time ever in the history...if you want to take an adavantage not to come back here. We are going through crappy time on a mundane level but it's the best time for 'transending' since right technique has been made available to people. IP: Logged |
LionFish
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posted August 12, 2015 06:11 PM
Libra IC, Venus in Aries in the 9th
Aquarius 8th house, Uranus in 5th conjunct Mars. Saturn is also in my 5th.Sooo i need to ignore my natural attraction to foreigners when I'm out of the country or I could end up on the receiving end of a crime of passion? IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted August 12, 2015 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by LionFish:
Libra IC, Venus in Aries in the 9th
Aquarius 8th house, Uranus in 5th conjunct Mars. Saturn is also in my 5th.Sooo i need to ignore my natural attraction to foreigners when I'm out of the country or I could end up on the receiving end of a crime of passion?
Be careful with strangers while you are in foreign country. But I don't know if it indicates a crime of passion since Pluto is not mentioned here. Mars-Uranus is an accident aspect. Mars-Pluto = Murder. But again, watch your progression, transit e.g. eclipse to see if anything will be triggered.IP: Logged |
goddessinworld
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posted August 12, 2015 06:27 PM
interesting4th house Aries, Aquarius Mars in the 2nd (conjunct Jupiter) - this kind of worries me because of the things I heard about mars in the 2nd. Dying that way would be horrible :/ 8th house Leo, Sun in the first house cusp. IP: Logged |
RoseLily
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posted August 12, 2015 06:32 PM
Ruler of my fourth is mercury, which is in cancer in fourth house.
I also have sun conjunct IC.
well... I'm going to kill myself because of what my family said. That's pretty sad  IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 12, 2015 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by astra7:
It's interesting how 4th H ruler tells you of one's end.
A little too creepily accurate in my father's case. His IC 14 Aries... When he died: Transiting Mars 22 Sag
His ASC 22 Sag
His progressed Mars 20 Sag Also his pr sun at 14 Cap, squaring natal IC exactly.
And his pr ASC had just gone into Aries. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted August 13, 2015 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by RoseLily:
Ruler of my fourth is mercury, which is in cancer in fourth house.
I also have sun conjunct IC.
well... I'm going to kill myself because of what my family said. That's pretty sad
It could simply mean you'll die at home rather than on the road or in hospital?
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astra7
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posted August 13, 2015 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
A little too creepily accurate in my father's case.His IC 14 Aries... When he died: Transiting Mars 22 Sag
His ASC 22 Sag
His progressed Mars 20 Sag Also his pr sun at 14 Cap, squaring natal IC exactly.
And his pr ASC had just gone into Aries.
I wouldn't say creepy but oh wow.So it seems as there is no free will, at least in one's death since it's written from birth.
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Ayelet
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posted August 13, 2015 02:45 PM
Death is optional.IP: Logged |
Swanlake
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posted August 13, 2015 06:06 PM
According to older astrology book by veteran astrologer Ronald C Davison, the fourth house denotes (among other things) the "circumstances at end of life"For cause of death you'd look at eighth. Here's list of planets in 4th & description:
(words in brackets may apply if afflicted) Sun in 4th...fortunate
Moon...increased activity, some public recognition (rebuffs)
Mercury...many contacts
Venus...peaceful (sad)
Mars retains independence (involved in disputes)
Jupiter....comfortable
Saturn...restricted, lonely
Uranus...unusual(enforced changes)
Neptune..secluded (lives in institution)
Pluto...isolated
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astra7
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posted August 13, 2015 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Swanlake:
According to older astrology book by veteran astrologer Ronald C Davison, the fourth house denotes (among other things) the "circumstances at end of life"For cause of death you'd look at eighth. Here's list of planets in 4th & description:
(words in brackets may apply if afflicted) Sun in 4th...fortunate
Moon...increased activity, some public recognition (rebuffs)
Mercury...many contacts
Venus...peaceful (sad)
Mars retains independence (involved in disputes)
Jupiter....comfortable
Saturn...restricted, lonely
Uranus...unusual(enforced changes)
Neptune..secluded (lives in institution)
Pluto...isolated
OOOH, that's useful information. Thanks for differenciating 4th & 8th Swanlake.
Was it from his book?So, as in my OP example, Jim & Pam both died with Uranus in 4th (unusual) circumstance. I think that sums up right.
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Seimei
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posted August 14, 2015 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Death is optional.
HERE HERE ------------------
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Swanlake
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posted August 14, 2015 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by astra7:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swanlake:
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According to older astrology book by veteran astrologer Ronald C Davison, the fourth house denotes (among other things) the "circumstances at end of life"For cause of death you'd look at eighth. Here's list of planets in 4th & description:
(words in brackets may apply if afflicted) Sun in 4th...fortunate
Moon...increased activity, some public recognition (rebuffs)
Mercury...many contacts
Venus...peaceful (sad)
Mars retains independence (involved in disputes)
Jupiter....comfortable
Saturn...restricted, lonely
Uranus...unusual(enforced changes)
Neptune..secluded (lives in institution)
Pluto...isolated
OOOH, that's useful information. Thanks for differenciating 4th & 8th Swanlake.
Was it from his book?So, as in my OP example, Jim & Pam both died with Uranus in 4th (unusual) circumstance. I think that sums up right. [/B][/QUOTE] Yes. From his book.
It's a very useful little book.(Called Astrology How to Cast your horoscope.)
I always find it very useful for additional astro insights. EG
Re the 4th House,
there are columns...eg "Inherited tendencies"..(as above)..
"Circumstances at End of Life"....."Parental Influence"...."Domestic environment" and what the presence of certain planets signify/indicate. His whole book is very useful as a reference book.. IP: Logged |
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