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Topic: What in a chart often makes same genders out to "get" you?
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Dreaminess
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posted August 11, 2015 08:26 AM
  
Like, they dont support you, will always try to find/see the bad with you (often making it seem worse than what it is) when you do/look/have done something good instead of being happy for you they get jealous instead and they secretly don`t like that anything good comes your way. What in a chart can make someone bring out this in same genders? In a womans chart, hard aspects to venus or moon maybe? and in men hard aspects to sun or mars? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 08:33 AM
Venus hard aspects....women out to get you
Mars hard aspects......men out to get you
Pluto hard aspects......everyone's out to get youIP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95
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posted August 11, 2015 08:47 AM
For women, I would probably especially say hard aspects to the Moon. I think especially if there is also a hard aspect made from Venus to Pluto, Saturn, or possibly the Moon.. Maybe even a hard aspect between the Moon and Chiron...? Not sure about that one though. Maybe Moon-Pluto in hard aspect? Also not certain about this aspect either.. Hmm.. Ima think on this one.. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 09:11 AM
Prominent Pluto, esp on AC makes everyone have an intense reaction to you! Esp if your Pluto has hard aspects to it.
Hard aspect between...
Pluto/Jupiter-religious ppl like to judge and condemn you.
Pluto/Chiron-mental ppl create issues in your life.
Pluto/Moon- ppl supposed to nuture, love and protect you, hurt you....potentially coming from mom or a mothering type energy.
Pluto/Mars- men challenge you to the point you become frustrated and hurt.
Pluto/Sun- ppl attack your ego, possibly dad or dad figures are not supportive and hurt you.
Pluto/Neptune-Hurt by religion/your image of God turns on you.
Pluto/Venus-Loves been a little bit hard on you!
Pluto/Uranus-your originality comes under attack.
Pluto/Saturn-authority figures seem to target you to use as "examples" for others, your picked to be the one who can't get away with anything and punishment for everything is extreme and strict by comparison to others.IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted August 11, 2015 09:25 AM
I have Moon square Pluto and I agree with this.I feel this from most women. I do get along with some. Regarding men, I think they like me, but are afraid to get close. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 11, 2015 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Venus hard aspects....women out to get you
Mars hard aspects......men out to get you
Pluto hard aspects......everyone's out to get you
WOW This is profound, Gabby but why do you say Venus for women. I would say the Moon. I would say Sun for men. What do you think? That is profound about Pluto though  ------------------
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bansheequeen
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posted August 11, 2015 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
For women, I would probably especially say hard aspects to the Moon. I think especially if there is also a hard aspect made from Venus to Pluto, Saturn, or possibly the Moon.. Maybe even a hard aspect between the Moon and Chiron...? Not sure about that one though. Maybe Moon-Pluto in hard aspect? Also not certain about this aspect either.. Hmm.. Ima think on this one..
Agree. And in men, hard aspects to the moon might make them the kind of people that give women a hard time... IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted August 11, 2015 10:02 AM
Women that have a "masculine" chart or a very stressful chart (lots of hard aspects), other women target them. It seems like women always target the more confident outspoken one with strong personalities.Also I think the type of women that would behave the way you are saying towards other women would have hard pluto aspects or pluto on the asc or pluto in hard aspect to the moon. The jealousy, and not being able to be happy for you if you have something they covet or if you are competition for them. Maybe martian energy but not really aries mars, just scorpio mars. Not sure about men but I can see mars and pluto heavy men being really competitive with eachother lol. I knew a libra with scorpio moon, asc and venus that was really really insecure and jealous of any man her perceived to be better than him, he was never rude to their faces but he would talk **** and put them down behind their backs. As for his anger about it, he would take it out on the person he was dating... me. IP: Logged |
goddessinworld
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posted August 11, 2015 02:16 PM
moon conjunct pluto for sure. square too maybe.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW This is profound, Gabby but why do you say Venus for women. I would say the Moon. I would say Sun for men. What do you think? That is profound about Pluto though
Women are love by nature, moon is mothering/nuturing but women are more than just moms.
Venus represents the young women, little girls, being in love, it represents woman in many more roles of love than just the mothering role.
Plus, in a situation like this were we are discussing the negative side, you'd see the less mature woman acting out in these ways. Shes probably not as much going to be the mother who has learned unconditional love, has outgrown the bloom of youth and has her priorities in order(of course there are exceptions, immature moms and mature women who don't have children) but in general that's why I say Venus represents all woman, Moon represents the Mom...potentially a more mature woman.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 11, 2015 02:48 PM
With women it's moon and Venus. If you have moon in favorable aspect, trine or sextile, to Venus or Jupiter, you can expect to have a generally good experience with both men and women. It can make you popular, if you area a man. Women in particular will find you appealing. If you have Mars conjunct moon it can mean you quarrel with women and compete. Moon square Pluto can indicate a jealous nature that needs to be confronted for growth to occur. For men it's Sun and Mars. If you have Sun square Mars or Saturn, it can indicate abuse from men. Sun square Pluto can indicate violence or even death at the hands of a man or men, maybe even a mob of them. Sun square Pluto might definitely indicate mob justice. A really great aspect is Sun in trine, conjunction or sextile with Jupiter. It can mean your father was a prominent citizen who looked out for your best interests and you will inherit material wealth from him. If a man, your friends are influential and benefit you. If a woman, you marry an influential and beneficial man who will be prominent in the community. He could have ties to religion or spirituality. He could have a lot of money.
Mars square Pluto is a dangerous aspect that can attract criminals or jealous people, so watch out with this one! Venus conjunct, square or opposite Saturn - people limit their affection toward you and it can cause you to feel depressed. Mars conjunct, square or opposite Saturn - you feel others want to limit your activities or what you desire to do. You feel as if fate is against what you desire most for yourself. You feel a lot of frustration and feel others are the cause. IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster
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posted August 11, 2015 02:54 PM
I hate having a moon square pluto at a tight orb because it's so hard to get to know people. It's like some ppl repeal you at first sight! Haha... That's a strong placement! IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster
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posted August 11, 2015 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
For men it's Sun and Mars. If you have Sun square Mars or Saturn, it can indicate abuse from men. [/B]
OMG, THIS SO TRUE!!!!!!!! I finally find out what it is that makes men compete with me.. IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster
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posted August 11, 2015 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Like, they dont support you, will always try to find/see the bad with you (often making it seem worse than what it is) when you do/look/have done something good instead of being happy for you they get jealous instead and they secretly don`t like that anything good comes your way. What in a chart can make someone bring out this in same genders? In a womans chart, hard aspects to venus or moon maybe? and in men hard aspects to sun or mars?
I've always encountered this all of my life. To the point where I actually die down if im successful at something because I don't want ppl becoming jealous. It's like I can never get to where I need to be because of this reason.. If im in optimistic and nice they say i'm phony.. if i'm mean and distant they say i'm acting stuck up. It just really gets on my damn nerves sometimes..
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Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
With women it's moon and Venus.
For men it's Sun and Mars.
Agreed, this is what I've learned in my research also! IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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posted August 11, 2015 06:05 PM
"Prominent Pluto, esp on AC makes everyone have an intense reaction to you! Esp if your Pluto has hard aspects to it."^
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Sulkyarcher
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posted August 11, 2015 07:10 PM
Most of my troubles have been with feminine energy. Moon square Pluto. Venus conjunct Pluto.IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 11, 2015 07:45 PM
Venus square Mars can lead to animosity towards either gender or even both.IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95
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posted August 11, 2015 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Venus square Mars can lead to animosity towards either gender or even both.
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PixieJane
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posted August 11, 2015 09:37 PM
Never mind, too long. I don't know why everything has to be so complicated. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
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posted August 11, 2015 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Never mind, too long. I don't know why everything has to be so complicated.
Noooo i love your posts, i hope you`ll change your mind hehe. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95
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posted August 11, 2015 10:13 PM
Also, maybe Pluto in the 4th.. I know Pluto in the 11th tends to get a lot of opposition in general.. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 11, 2015 11:40 PM
Moon in Capricorn (sometimes)
Moon / Mars hard aspect
Moon, Venus, Mars or Sun in the 12th
Mars in the 7th (generally adversarial).
Venus in Capricorn or any of the above planets in hard aspect to Saturn or Pluto.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 11, 2015 11:43 PM
@StarlightSupreme / Geminiyoungster - Sun square Saturn can make the men you meet competitive? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 12, 2015 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
@StarlightSupreme / Geminiyoungster - Sun square Saturn can make the men you meet competitive?
Do you think Sun square Saturn can indicate that? I thought it just meant men can be cold and stingy, and could be physically abusive although Mars and Pluto are more about physical abuse. Maybe, in a man's chart, sun conjunct Mars could indicate competition with other men? I know someone who doesn't like kids that much and her daughter has moon conjunct Saturn in Aquarius. IP: Logged |
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