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bansheequeen
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posted August 26, 2015 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
He's not 30. Sometimes I wish I couldn't pass for someone who's 21 lol

Its not really about how old you LOOK but how old you feel or act. Do you feel like you act like someone in their 20s? Are most of your friends older? Have you lived out of the house for a while? Have you had to get by on your own. Have you had a few long intense relationships? Have you experienced the short flirty ones?

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posted August 26, 2015 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I agree, and once youve lived as an adult a little you will be more on the same page as him. Please try to explore other relationships! Boys around your will be more fresh and willing to try new things and go the distance. When a guy is older, esp that old, he is gonna have his share of scars and hang ups and tons and tons of baggage. Of course everyone is different but you cant live that long without tacking on a fair share of baggage. For example, depending on when he started dating he has so many years of having girlfriends and having a broken heart and learning the wrong thing about women. Not to mention he probbaly wont be as broken up over fights and breakups and such as you. When you do decide to go after him be careful with your heart.

In the end, age is just a number. But realististically, not really. Im gonna be honest with you, even at my age... that guy is a no. I have been courted by older men and I always get this skeezy and tired vibe from them. One of them even lied to me. I got to know him. He was a mess. His life was a mess. I was like 19 and he was almost 30. He was dating a 18 year old on and off. So thats another factor. Sometimes if a man only dates younger girls.... you need to take a step back and think about WHY that is happening. Sure younger girls have more years of beauty left in them, But do you really want a man like that? That values something like that instead of giving girls his own age a chance. Maybe he gets along better with younger women which is what that 30 year old guy tried to say.... but why is that. How messed up does he have to be to not get along with people on the same experiece level as him?


Thank youu

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posted August 26, 2015 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Its not really about how old you LOOK but how old you feel or act. Do you feel like you act like someone in their 20s? Are most of your friends older? Have you lived out of the house for a while? Have you had to get by on your own. Have you had a few long intense relationships? Have you experienced the short flirty ones?

Touché haha, I understand where you're coming from. I'll keep your advice in mind, thank youuu

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posted August 26, 2015 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Right says the person that dates a lot of people 10 years younger. Theres a reason for that pattern.

Officially legal means nothing. It doesnt mean open season. People can always do what they want because that is how they learn. But you just kind of seem like you prey on women that are much younger and you are trying to make us believe its ok. Ugh.


EXCUSE ME??? I dont prey on women that are younger than me. Get your facts straight for one. Number 2, if someone is of legal age then by LAW they have the right to date whomever they choose. They have to discern for themselves how they will deal with and handle that, especially if they are out on there own and taking care of themselves (working, finished with High School, and are living on there own).

WHERE IN THE WORLD did you come up with the idea that I date women 10 years younger than me? Im 25, that means they will have to be 15, are you crazy? I said that i have a feeling that by the time I'm in my mid 30's i may find someone who is a decade younger than me, meaning that they are in there mid-20's. That comment was in reference to the MANY celebrities who have married their spouse even though they were younger than them (Brad Pitt and Angelina, Jay-z and Beyonce etc..)

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posted August 26, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo-Cancer98     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
EXCUSE ME??? I dont prey on women that are younger than me. Get your facts straight for one. Number 2, if someone is of legal age then by LAW they have the right to date whomever they choose. They have to discern for themselves how they will deal with and handle that, especially if they are out on there own and taking care of themselves (working, finished with High School, and are living on there own).

WHERE IN THE WORLD did you come up with the idea that I date women 10 years younger than me? Im 25, that means they will have to be 15, are you crazy? I said that i have a feeling that by the time I'm in my mid 30's i may find someone who is a decade younger than me, meaning that they are in there mid-20's. That comment was in reference to the MANY celebrities who have married their spouse even though they were younger than them (Brad Pitt and Angelina, Jay-z and Beyonce etc..)

You should read buddy...seriously


When she posted that I thought "Wait, when did he say that he only dates younger girls?!". But yeaah man PREAACHHH! Hahaaa

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bansheequeen
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posted August 26, 2015 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Touché haha, I understand where you're coming from. I'll keep your advice in mind, thank youuu

Yeah. Just saying this as someone whos been in that kind of situation and feels like she really missed out and wishes she could go back and change it.

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posted August 26, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
EXCUSE ME??? I dont prey on women that are younger than me. Get your facts straight for one. Number 2, if someone is of legal age then by LAW they have the right to date whomever they choose. They have to discern for themselves how they will deal with and handle that, especially if they are out on there own and taking care of themselves (working, finished with High School, and are living on there own).

WHERE IN THE WORLD did you come up with the idea that I date women 10 years younger than me? Im 25, that means they will have to be 15, are you crazy? I said that i have a feeling that by the time I'm in my mid 30's i may find someone who is a decade younger than me, meaning that they are in there mid-20's. That comment was in reference to the MANY celebrities who have married their spouse even though they were younger than them (Brad Pitt and Angelina, Jay-z and Beyonce etc..)


Aah sorry I scrolled up and thats a different person that posted right before you. For some reason I read your name with his message x.x

Sorry I have had a lot of bad expriences with older men in the past. And I really have a chip on my shoulder about men that are obsessed with the legal age. When I was 18 men making comments on me being "legal" and even when I was below 18 they made comments of me being "jailbait" and it was so creepy then and thinking about it now with more life experience I wish I could go back and rip their balls off. And now that Im in my 20s its all these 30 something year old men. Like please go away.

And sorry but you are already planning on dating a woman tahts 20 when you are mid thirties? So youll be almost 40 and you want a woman that is in her prime. Yeah real fair to her. You get a prime woman and she gets... an almost old guy.

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posted August 26, 2015 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Aah sorry I scrolled up and thats a different person that posted right before you. For some reason I read your name with his message x.x

Sorry I have had a lot of bad expriences with older men in the past. And I really have a chip on my shoulder about men that are obsessed with the legal age. When I was 18 men making comments on me being "legal" and even when I was below 18 they made comments of me being "jailbait" and it was so creepy then and thinking about it now with more life experience I wish I could go back and rip their balls off. And now that Im in my 20s its all these 30 something year old men. Like please go away.

And sorry but you are already planning on dating a woman 10 years younger when you are mid thirties? So youll be almost 40 and you want a woman that is in her prime. Yeah real fair to her. You get a prime woman and she gets... an almost old guy.


Sorry for your experiences and I'm sorry for that post. And like I said, its up to us. If I'm 43 and she's 30, then theres nothing wrong with that. Who's to say she shouldn't like me because I'm older? We are of both LEGAL AGE, and we are no longer under any parental obligations (we make our own living, and we take care of ourselves).

Im sorry you've experienced what you've experienced but you can't compare that to other people...

Would it be better if I was 30 and she was 43??

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posted August 26, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Sorry for your experiences and I'm sorry for that post. And like I said, its up to us. If I'm 43 and she's 30, then theres nothing wrong with that. Who's to say she shouldn't like me because I'm older? We are of both LEGAL AGE, and we are no longer under any parental obligations (we make our own living, and we take care of ourselves).

Im sorry you've experienced what you've experienced but you can't compare that to other people...

Would it be better if I was 30 and she was 43??


Haha no but the older people get I believe they are more "equal." Right now, even a few years makes a huge difference I think until you are in your 30s. These older men have nothing in common with me except that we both breathe and **** . Same with me and like an 18 year old guy. Oh god I cant even imagine dating one! Maybe its all the cap in me that makes me hyper aware of age and development and mental and emotional age, which actually greatly ties into our physical age. But also maybe many women are not so defensive around men that are older than her. I am.

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posted August 26, 2015 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Haha no but the older people get I believe they are more "equal." Right now, even a few years makes a huge difference I think until you are in your 30s. These older men have nothing in common with me except that we both breathe and **** . Same with me and like an 18 year old guy. Oh god I cant even imagine dating one! Maybe its all the cap in me that makes me hyper aware of age and development and mental and emotional age, which actually greatly ties into our physical age. But also maybe many women are not so defensive around men that are older than her. I am.

I know plenty of women who prefer older guys from my experience. I know this 24 year old who is with a guy in his 50's. She's in love with him

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posted August 26, 2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was me that said that many were 10+ years younger.
To clear up some things.

- Your personal experiences do not apply to everyone else.

- I'd have to really put thought into if I've truly pursued any of them. Most that I recall pursued me - asked for my number, asked to go on a date - asked to hang out.

- 99% of the time age and our age difference was not even acknowledged. We barely ever talked about it privately or publicly. We're all people! I've met their families, they've met mine and there was NEVER any strange energies, behaviors, or things said either to us or about us.

- They were adults, acted like adults, were responsible like adults, and I treated them like adults.

- I HAVE had relationships with women my age, and a few that were actually a few years older than I am. One of my favorites was a woman one year older. My experiences with them was not all different than women that were much younger. (outside of the fact that everyone is different, but I mean in a sense of maturity) These were mature young women.

- I LOOK 10 years younger. Even when I tell people my age, they sometimes have a hard time believing me. Yes, I've had to whip out my license to prove it to them.

- Not all that long ago, a woman 18 years younger than me (we didn't date) commented that she couldn't believe how "hip" I am. Familiar with younger people's trends, etc. It helps to bridge the gap in age. Just because I'm older doesn't mean that I'm out of the loop, or that they can't be responsible. My ex-brother-in-law was engaged, owned a brand new car and a house before he was 22 years old.

So it's advisable that you don't apply YOUR personal experiences to everyone else. I don't know your personal experiences and it's hardly fair in the slightest sense to cast your generalizations on all older men who happen to date younger women because you don't know MY experiences or how it all happened OR what the relationships were like.
It's not right and it's not fair.
I don't take very well to even being mentioned in the same breath with "predator".

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posted August 26, 2015 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So it's advisable that you don't apply YOUR personal experiences to everyone else. I don't know your personal experiences and it's hardly fair in the slightest sense to cast your generalizations on all older men who happen to date younger women because you don't know MY experiences or how it all happened OR what the relationships were like.
It's not right and it's not fair.
I don't take very well to even being mentioned in the same breath with "predator".

But arent you applying YOUR experiences to everyone else as well? Goes the same way dude.

I did have a relationship with an older man. Not that old but still, highschool and college age feels very different. HE might not have seen the bad dynamic but I sure did because I was the one that had less experience and was pressured into keeping up. Even if she gladly does it doesnt mean she is entirely comfortable. Im giving you the perspective of the younger person in the arrangement. You cant know that perspective until you have been the younger female.

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posted August 26, 2015 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
But arent you applying YOUR experiences to everyone else as well? Goes the same way dude.


I don't see how. I didn't say that "all older men are not predators" I said (or very clearly implied) that not all of them are. The difference between including all, or only including some. It's an important distinction. But I'm not going to get into that sort of "fighting in the mud" with you.

Otherwise I understand your point.
The biggest wrong that you said was that older men "prey" on younger women. That may be true in some cases but it's not true in others.
I think we get each others points.

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posted August 26, 2015 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 29, female - and I've attracted people of all ages, all the time - from 14 through to 80s.
I would never date a teenager. Age is only irrelevant when both people are adults emotionally and psychologically.

I have no problems with anything NYC or DopGang said here.. unless they intentionally go out of their way to confine themselves to a certain age group.. (although that wasn't my impression!)

If a hetero guy literally refused to date women his own age or older - and ONLY wanted to date younger women (due to some sort of middle-age crisis or other interesting preconceived ideas)... that would -indeed- be a very lame thing to do.

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posted August 26, 2015 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I'm 29, female - and I've attracted people of all ages, all the time - from 14 through to 80s.
I would [b]never
date a teenager. Age is only irrelevant when both people are adults emotionally and psychologically.

I have no problems with anything NYC or DopGang said here.. unless they intentionally go out of their way to confine themselves to a certain age group.. (although that wasn't my impression!)

If a hetero guy literally refused to date women his own age or older - and ONLY wanted to date younger women (due to some sort of middle-age crisis or other interesting preconceived ideas)... that would -indeed- be a very lame thing to do.[/B]


I usually prefer women my age or older. All I was saying was that I wouldn't be SURPRISED if lets say 10 years from now I meet and fall in love with a woman who is 10 years younger than me. A lot of strong relationships have large age gaps. Im just stating the fact that it happens.

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Odette
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posted August 26, 2015 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Ok. It's cool.
I get what you're saying


I agree with you about generational aspects playing a role in this. With the 10 year gap, the Nodes are reversed.. and with the 20 year gap, they would have the same NN/SN axis.
And there are many other interesting outer-planet connections!

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posted August 27, 2015 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I am a man of the 21 sentury and if you where my sister I would not just say, go and have fun...
And I don`t get how the other guys here, say i`ts only up to you...


Edit: Like I get it, when they say it, bcause no matter what life is beautifull and not because of the stereotipes of modern world that you shouldn`t do what you want.. and maybe I am the perverted one xD
but still I would not be albe to say it.

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