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Julz87
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posted August 28, 2015 09:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should I be worried? Any male here with a mars square Pluto? How does it play out for you natally and relationship wise?


Pluto in Libra- and Mars in Cancer ( many women dislike this placement in a mans chart- they associated it with passive aggressive and neediness this would be my first mars in cancer it sextiles my virgo mars so we get along swell when it comes to temperaments)

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posted August 29, 2015 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe feminists would have more problems with it.

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posted August 29, 2015 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say it really depends on the rest of the chart, and the person with the aspect.

There are 2 or 3 major ways I think it can manifest..

It can manifest as a very strong sexual energy.. It can also manifest as a very physical energy (of course, both having relation to one another..), in a way where the person needs a lot or physical outlets for their energy.. Whether it be lifting weights, running, or anything else physically demanding.

Personally, I have Sun opposite Pluto (in Scorpio), both squaring Mars.

I don't really think it is something to worry about.. Just know that there is an ok chance he has a pretty high sex drive, and if not, he may like physically demanding work.

In my situation, it is extremely rare that I get truly mad.. But, when I do, there is really very little that can calm me down. It's not a good feeling, and that is part of why I try to avoid it as much as possible.

I'd say, Mars-Pluto squares can really just be a very strong reservoir of energy.. It doesn't have to be purely physical. However, that is generally the easiest way about getting 'rid' of the energy. In fact, sometimes the energy is manifested sexually or physically as a habitual way of getting rid of the energy.. Kind of in a way in which the person throws out the energy in non-productive ways. At times, It's kind of like.. They have so much energy they don't know how to control it, or where to direct it. That is usually when it becomes more destructive or unproductive

Edit: I will say this.. From those I've known.. It seems Mars square Pluto people emit sexual energy in a much different way than people who don't have this aspect. I'm not trying to say that this is a good thing or a bad thing.. But, it seems that from those I've talked to with this aspect generally take sex pretty seriously.. Even if it is done in a somewhat 'casual' way. I feel at its very lowest, Mars square Pluto MAY sleep around.. But.. It seems that they are usually the type who don't. They find a lot of intensity in sexuality.. Some of them seem very aware of the energetic undercurrents that occur during sexual acts. I'm not really even sure how to explain it.. But it seems their approach to sexuality is different than most.

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posted August 29, 2015 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me, Mars square Pluto in a man's chart is exactly like Venus square Pluto in a woman's chart.

They are obsessed, they don't love. Especially in younger years. ESPECIALLY then.

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posted August 29, 2015 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
Maybe feminists would have more problems with it.

lol whut? So then I gather a republican woman would be keen on getting with someone potentially violent?

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posted August 29, 2015 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Know two of them. Both are very, very, dangerous.

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posted August 29, 2015 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this.

I am usually a very genial kind of guy and don't usually say anything when I have difficulties with someone. It takes a lot for me to get truly angry. When I do get angry, though, it's not pretty. I become very cold and withdrawn, but can explode if pressed.

I think that other people find my anger to be very shocking because it's something that happens so rarely.

I have Mars in Aqua (5th house) and Pluto in Scorpio (2nd).

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posted August 29, 2015 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my past, I couldn't deal with Mars/Pluto men when their aspect hit my Venus.
If your Moon and Venus are not in the line of fire, you'll be fine!

They can be very easy going and normal - when this aspect isn't triggered in the synastry.
Venus (in particular) has a really negative impact on the Mars/Pluto cocktail.With this aspect he'll always see you as promiscuous and constantly try to harm you (or punish you?) out of a delusional belief that he can never have you.
They can go completely cray cray over the wrong woman with the wrong Venus!

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posted August 29, 2015 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reading - Did you also have a Mars/Neptune aspect?

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posted August 29, 2015 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reading - Did you also have a Mars/Neptune aspect?

Yep. .. That may kind of sway the energy a bit.. If you haven't seen me say this before, I have Neptune in aspect to everything but Mercury. (Although, my Draconic Neptune is loosely conjunct my Natal Mercury..)

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posted August 29, 2015 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lol whut? So then I gather a republican woman would be keen on getting with someone potentially violent?

I did not really get your question, but I also did not explain myself very well..
I think Mars/Pluto is a strong masculine energy and that parts of feminism has develop to the point of thinking that woman can do everythink, the same, as man can .
something like that :P

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posted August 29, 2015 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 30, 2015 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is very easy for feminists to put man as the cause of the sadness of this world, but it is not man, rather the unbalance of yin and yang, in this case too much yang. I think a lot of feminist don`t really strive for harmony, they rather wand to do like man and be "strong yang women".

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posted August 30, 2015 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars sq Pluto will definitively make the man more dominating and controlling sexually.

But for actual violence I don't think this aspect is enough. Always check for Moon or Venus afflictions at the same time.

It takes na unbalanced emotional for the tense energy of Mars/Pluto to become extreme.

Also the houses involved.

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posted September 04, 2015 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys were right, it does make a person have more stamina in sex, more dominating and controlling sexually. He likes BDSM

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posted September 05, 2015 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Julz87:
Should I be worried?

Worry accomplishes nothing. Gain knowledge. And trust your own intuition -- but listen to it!

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Any male here with a mars square Pluto? How does it play out for you natally and relationship wise?


Pluto in Libra- and Mars in Cancer ( many women dislike this placement in a mans chart- they associated it with passive aggressive and neediness this would be my first mars in cancer it sextiles my virgo mars so we get along swell when it comes to temperaments)


Mars square Pluto in a man's chart is no guarantee of a personality defect, but at the very least it points to urgings of forcefulness; or points to an unrelenting sex drive that seems to know no bounds or propriety. These guys need a vigorous physical outlet like a contact sport.

The question is, are there other things in the natal chart that help soften and balance out the personality? Don't single out one 'scary' aspect and fail to see the whole chart -- or the real person.

Statistically speaking, Mars square Pluto in the natal chart tends to urge men to those activities in which competition is valued and winners take all (or as much as possible); and these are too often ones in which battles of wills take shape all too easily. If you don't lay down boundaries early -- as soon as any questions arise -- and lay them down hard, you may find you've got someone who thinks they can dominate you and thinks its fair game.

The weaker ones (those lacking integrity and commitments, purpose) may be passive-aggressive or manipulative, but that is the softer side of this aspect.

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posted September 07, 2015 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said.

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posted September 07, 2015 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Julz87:
You guys were right, it does make a person have more stamina in sex, more dominating and controlling sexually. He likes BDSM

yeah, I know a certain guy lol. I have his accurate chart. Mars sq Pluto exact.

Totally sex crazed, likes bdsm as well. It's like his favorite thing in the world... -_-

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Maybe feminists would have more problems with it.

Thats completely idiotic.

Feminism is about having the choice to pick what you like and what you want.

And it's not like mars sq pluto men want women to stop voting.

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posted September 15, 2018 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I attract this aspect (along with moon & Venus square Pluto) like crazy b/c I’m female with Sun conj Pluto in 1st house, moon & Venus conj in Scorpio & Mars in 8th. I do NOT like this aspect - even in mutable signs.
I am looking this up b/c a Scorpio Sun has been harassing me. He definitely has Venus conj mars in Sag, both square Pluto. His moon is also in Sag & likely also in that square. I went one 1 date with him at his obsessive request. There was an attraction but he was waaaay too aggressive & did not want to take NO for answer when enough was enough. Also full of sh*t b/c he was shaking like a leaf before he touched me. He was also a complete narcissist turn off!
You MUST confront a guy like this immediately & HARD if they are ever too forceful w/ out proper consent!!
Since I put him in his place, he has been texting & pestering me (we have some small business dealing together that I can’t totally get away from) & trying to do everything in his power to pick a fight, provoke or ruffle me or get me back in his physical presence. He is also quite literally “re-writing” history to a point I think he is actually insane. Tomorrow it is likely over but if he tries to take anything one step farther, he will regret he ever set eyes on me. He is being a complete psycho, pest & emotional terrorist & about to ruin a perfectly good professional reputation. He has been given multiple chances to stand down. His Mars/Venus conjunct my Juno & his Pluto in Virgo makes soft aspects to my Moon & Venus. His Ceres is conjunct my Venus, his Juno is conjunct my Moon/Eros, opposite my Mars & he is totally obsessed. From what he has exhibited, no chance in hell. He is 55!! Way too old for this behavior. Very dangerous person.

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Yes.. the Scorpio/Pluto influence makes them a bit "looking under the surface" and imagining things that maybe aren't there.

The explosive anger is an issue in the sense that, they will keep tabs to justify their anger outburst. Even when there are no tabs to keep (paranoid).

Regenerative Pluto, needs to explode the Mars energy to reinvigorate themselves, thus, the justification. Apparently, this is what "passion" is too

Not my cup of tea at all but perhaps for other Plutonians this is all good.

I met a guy for a couple of dates. On only the second or third one, over a period of about a year (because I had other things going on), after a film, he was hovering over me intensely while I got in the car. Did not want to discuss the film or have conversation at all, ie, get to know each other. I got a sense after that he would rape me if he could (sorry), that he was intending to grab me to kiss me. Then, after, because he couldn't get me (fast enough) I got vindictive payback: he sent me a text some time later saying that he wanted to call me at 6pm, as I had previously stated, as I do to all new people, to text me before calling because I am sometimes busy. Then, come 6pm he didn't call and I never heard from him again.

This was his vengeance on me for he could see that he was not going to get what he wanted. This guy was small, healthy (there was some Virgo), no tats or outwardly aggressive (like an Aries, maybe), but the narrow focus (Mars) intensity (Scorpio) was very apparent, this forceful intense "pushing" energy. I dodged a bullet with that dude, because, as I say, I don't do well with the undercurrent nature of these types.


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posted September 16, 2018 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ex had the conjunction in Libra. He loved physical sex(the violent type). But you wouldn't tell with his polished appearance.

Venus in Cancer would feed his insecurities which would result in bursts of anger.

At some point he cracked the TV screen and damaged the door fridge of his new boyfriend.

He didn't show that side to me. I guess I didn't fan it for some reason. But he was very much into control.

His Leo Sun playful side rarely came out. As he was almost always on edge over one thing or another.

I being a casual and naive Sag would want him to talk it out and would poke him on it. And that would result in long awful silent spells between us.

His Leo mate after me used to come to me and ask "How did you deal?". To which I said " I didn't. I left"

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posted September 17, 2018 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex has mars retro in cancer and he wasn't passive aggressive at all. The opposite actually true. super, hyper-sensitive to the point where he has a huge front of pseudo-masculinity and anger

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posted September 17, 2018 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDIT: actually let me rephrase that. Venus square Pluto is not "worse", that's drastic of me to say. What I meant is that Venus square Pluto is probably more of what you were asking about when you expressed your concern. As Venus square Pluto has more to do with our attitude and moral state acting up than Mars squaring Pluto.

I am a female with this and I think the square between Venus and Pluto is worse in men and women. They are passive aggressive and randomly violent in their words, in my opinion. Because Venus also affects our mood and emotions, similar to the moon. The Venus square Pluto people can be very emotionally demeaning and chaotic at the worst times. With Mars, he rules our energy reservoir so these people can come and go with energy and attitude. It is like they never have the right amount of energy to exert the power they want to in a situation. If they need to yell at someone/be assertive, they seem to suffer second guesses and suddenly lose all their energy to fight back. If they need to be gentle with someone, they suddenly find it difficult to calm their energy to be less aggressive and more gentle with that person's fragile state.

With Mars square Pluto there is an energy and power issue. Trying to be something you're not because the you that you want to be in that situation makes you feel overwhelmed and out of balance with your energy. You don't want to dominate people but also, you do want to dominate people because sometimes that's the right way to go about getting things done.

With Venus square Pluto there is an attitude and moral issue. Trying to be affectionate and close to others but often coming off as self-centered, snarky, and cruel. You know that sometimes it is necessary to be a bit egoistic, because you have to think of your needs and your future and not worry about others, but you also want to stop so people will like you more.

However, I do feel with the aforementioned descriptions of Mars square Pluto, that these people try to dominate people if they feel they are weaker than them. I do this sometimes, because I hate when people don't get to the point and just dilly dally along with things. It irks me and I have to take control of the situation because of that, because I want to hurry and hurry and move things along quickly. I sigh a lot and I get tired a lot, though I do seem to have a very high reservoir of energy. I just don't know what to do with it, so I end up sleeping it away or wasting it on small things that aren't very productive. It could be my 8th house placements and Aries moon adding into all of that too.

I knew a male born two days later than me and he also had this square. He is similar to me, impatient and can try to dominate people when things get frustratingly slow and haggard. Some other girls born around the same time as me are also like this.

This is just what I have observed in myself and the others I know with these placements. It could be different for others, especially depending on the sign placement.

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posted September 18, 2018 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrackleCrackle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone I know has it and he's far from scary or easily angered, he's just very competitive and ambitious. And it's a 0 degree square. He's very sensitive to any criticism as well.

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