|
Author
|
Topic: Placements for potential beauty queens?
|
Solar_Leo_Queen
Knowflake Posts: 2367
From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
|
posted August 29, 2015 08:31 PM
  
What placements in a chart would make you think someone is fit to be in a beauty pageant?I've examined a couple charts belonging to beauty queens and there is a dominance of Taurus and Libra influences. What else can you guys add? IP: Logged |
RoseLily
Knowflake Posts: 144
From:
Registered: Jul 2015
|
posted August 29, 2015 08:52 PM
I'd look for the asteroid Aphrodite, where it sits.
If it's conjunct sun, for example, it can grant great beauty (Monica Bellucci for example)
IP: Logged |
Comatoes
Knowflake Posts: 379
From:
Registered: Jan 2014
|
posted August 29, 2015 09:05 PM
Venus/Saturn
Sun/Venus
Venus/Asc
Venus/Midheaven
Venus/Moon
IP: Logged |
Dreaminess
Knowflake Posts: 700
From: norway
Registered: Aug 2014
|
posted August 29, 2015 09:11 PM
Strong venus influence. Hmm am not sure of anything else that might give a potential nor make someone care enough to do it other than venus, maybe strong leo/sun influence to? not sure. And also tbh beauty queens have a boring beauty to me they have that venus beauty that "simple pretty nothing special seen it a 100 times" kinda beauty. I don`t see anything neptunian plutonian uranuian jupirian etc about them whatsoever.IP: Logged |
Odette
Moderator Posts: 6051
From:
Registered: May 2012
|
posted August 29, 2015 09:13 PM
Venus/Saturn is the first thing I thought of. IP: Logged |
Odette
Moderator Posts: 6051
From:
Registered: May 2012
|
posted August 29, 2015 09:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RoseLily:
I'd look for the asteroid Aphrodite, where it sits.
If it's conjunct sun, for example, it can grant great beauty (Monica Bellucci for example)
Lol
Oh my Gosh... Monica Bellucci would never enter a beauty pageant :/ IP: Logged |
RoseLily
Knowflake Posts: 144
From:
Registered: Jul 2015
|
posted August 29, 2015 09:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Lol
Oh my Gosh... Monica Bellucci would never enter a beauty pageant :/
Lol I know! But just to give an example of what aphrodite can give as far as appearance is concerned. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 64290
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
|
posted August 29, 2015 09:42 PM
Melania Trump has a 2nd House Taurus Stellium-- no comment  ------------------
Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6900
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted August 29, 2015 10:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Lol
Oh my Gosh... Monica Bellucci would never enter a beauty pageant :/
Why not? I do mean to include when she's younger. All I have to go by is wikipedia but the only notable stuff that has to say is about her career as a fashion model and actress and that strikes me as someone both confident enough and willing to enter a beauty pageant (unless it would just kill her to lose). IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6900
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted August 29, 2015 10:41 PM
This isn't something I've paid attention to but one thing that seems to be the case is that many of the best looking men and women have significant placements in the 1st and/or 12th houses. Though perhaps I should add as a caveat that the two men I can think of with first house placements (one both 12th and 1st) who were beautiful looking to me were in the androgynous anime/boy band way...and one was a crossdresser who could also appear as a beautiful woman, enough to make other women jealous.  (Also for what it's worth I'm saying they were beautiful, not that I was necessarily attracted to them.) IP: Logged |
Soltze
Knowflake Posts: 508
From:
Registered: Mar 2015
|
posted August 30, 2015 05:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Venus/Saturn is the first thing I thought of.
But probably a trine or sextile, no? I have the opp and I'm not ugly, but not interesting appearance either :-D What about Lilith/Venus? Would it be crude sensuality or an haunting beauty? I wonder. IP: Logged |
Gracha
Knowflake Posts: 222
From: NY USA
Registered: Jan 2013
|
posted August 30, 2015 10:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Comatoes:
Venus/Saturn
Sun/Venus
Venus/Asc
Venus/Midheaven
Venus/Moon
lol I have all of these and i'm no beauty queen. Taurus venus 10th house, venus square ascendant, venus semi-sextile sun, venus sextile moon, venus opposite Saturn/pluto,but I will say that I'm a social person but introverted if that makes sense. I've beem called very polite and well mannered. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
Knowflake Posts: 328
From:
Registered: Jun 2014
|
posted August 30, 2015 10:34 AM
Interesting.I have Venus conjunct Saturn. I never had any desire for that stuff, but I was told when I was younger that I could be a model. But I am short, haha IP: Logged |
Comatoes
Knowflake Posts: 379
From:
Registered: Jan 2014
|
posted August 30, 2015 10:43 AM
The chart is about potential, not every chart configuration applies to everyone. But the potential is there in the chart if that person wants to partake in that area. Someone can have a lot of beauty pageant aspects but if the chart was never fated to go that route, than that area will not be used in that way but used in other creative ways. A lot of things come into play with beauty pageants -- genetics for one, motivation - because the beauty pageant circuit is intense and psychologically intense as women compare themselves to others in a one size fits all. People who use beauty as a goal and use it to compete, must have a strong motivation, because being judged superficially can be extremely difficult on the psyche. So there is a lot going on through the competitive side -- which would bring in the planet Mars.
IP: Logged |
Koniucha
Knowflake Posts: 328
From:
Registered: Jun 2014
|
posted August 30, 2015 10:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Comatoes:
The chart is about potential, not every chart configuration applies to everyone. But the potential is there in the chart if that person wants to partake in that area. Someone can have a lot of beauty pageant aspects but if the chart was never fated to go that route, than that area will not be used in that way but used in other creative ways. A lot of things come into play with beauty pageants -- genetics for one, motivation - because the beauty pageant circuit is intense and psychologically intense as women compare themselves to others in a one size fits all. People who use beauty as a goal and use it to compete, must have a strong motivation, because being judged superficially can be extremely difficult on the psyche. So there is a lot going on through the competitive side -- which would bring in the planet Mars.
True. I am they type that does not like attention on me at all. I have Scorpio sun in my 4th house. IP: Logged |
Gabby
Moderator Posts: 7559
From:
Registered: Sep 2012
|
posted August 30, 2015 11:12 AM
Interesting topic! IP: Logged |
Odette
Moderator Posts: 6051
From:
Registered: May 2012
|
posted August 30, 2015 11:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
Why not?I do mean to include when she's younger. All I have to go by is wikipedia but the only notable stuff that has to say is about her career as a fashion model and actress
Hmmm I said that because it just doesn't seem like something an intelligent person would normally do.
And I see her as an intelligent person. IP: Logged |
Gracha
Knowflake Posts: 222
From: NY USA
Registered: Jan 2013
|
posted August 30, 2015 11:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Comatoes:
The chart is about potential, not every chart configuration applies to everyone. But the potential is there in the chart if that person wants to partake in that area. Someone can have a lot of beauty pageant aspects but if the chart was never fated to go that route, than that area will not be used in that way but used in other creative ways. A lot of things come into play with beauty pageants -- genetics for one, motivation - because the beauty pageant circuit is intense and psychologically intense as women compare themselves to others in a one size fits all. People who use beauty as a goal and use it to compete, must have a strong motivation, because being judged superficially can be extremely difficult on the psyche. So there is a lot going on through the competitive side -- which would bring in the planet Mars.
I agree even at one point when younger I thought about modeling because I'm 5'11 but chose school because that's where I shine. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6900
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted August 30, 2015 07:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Hmmm I said that because it just doesn't seem like something an intelligent person would normally do.
And I see her as an intelligent person.
Okay, I can follow that. And you reminded me of this vid that while a parody is some brilliant satire of what some beauty pageant contestants have said in answering questions (though none were ever asked if math should be taught in schools):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBv2CFTSWU IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen
Knowflake Posts: 2367
From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
|
posted August 31, 2015 05:05 PM
Thank you guys for the replies.It's interesting to know a Venus-Saturn would be one of the placements for a possible beauty queen. It would make sense because Saturn creates structure which makes Venus even more refined. Although, I was expecting other answers aside from Venus. Beauty pageants don't only judge by physical appearance, do they? I mean, there's still the question and answer portion and talent portion. I've seen quite a couple contestants fail miserably on the question and answer portion, and some can't even do their talents right IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 1629
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted August 31, 2015 06:49 PM
Remember, we are talking about Beauty queens, not just beautiful women or models. Having a feminine rising signs like Libra, Taurus and Cancer would help. I also thought having Venus aspecting Neptune and/or Saturn would also help. i looked up and I found:Vanessa Williams (miss America) has Cancer rising. She also has Venus conjunct Saturn and square Neptune. Halle Berry (miss Ohio, and 1st runner up Miss USA): Taurus rising. Grand trine involving Venus, Saturn and Neptune. Sharon Stone (miss Crawford County, Penn): Venus square Neptune. Lucy Lawless (Miss New Zealand): Venus sextile Saturn. Ali Landry (Miss USA): Venus sextile Saturn Oprah Winfrey (Miss Black Tennessee): Venus square Saturn Aishwaria Rai (Miss World): Libra rising. Pluto on ascendant Diane Sawyer (miss America Jr): Venus quincunx Saturn Raquel Welch (Miss San Diego): Venus sextile Neptune Kelly Hu (Miss Teen USA) Venus sextile Neptune
IP: Logged |
Gracha
Knowflake Posts: 222
From: NY USA
Registered: Jan 2013
|
posted August 31, 2015 07:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
Remember, we are talking about Beauty queens, not just beautiful women or models. Having a feminine rising signs like Libra, Taurus and Cancer would help. I also thought having Venus aspecting Neptune and/or Saturn would also help. i looked up and I found:Vanessa Williams (miss America) has Cancer rising. She also has Venus conjunct Saturn and square Neptune. Halle Berry (miss Ohio, and 1st runner up Miss USA): Taurus rising. Grand trine involving Venus, Saturn and Neptune. Sharon Stone (miss Crawford County, Penn): Venus square Neptune. Lucy Lawless (Miss New Zealand): Venus sextile Saturn. Ali Landry (Miss USA): Venus sextile Saturn Oprah Winfrey (Miss Black Tennessee): Venus square Saturn Aishwaria Rai (Miss World): Libra rising. Pluto on ascendant Diane Sawyer (miss America Jr): Venus quincunx Saturn Raquel Welch (Miss San Diego): Venus sextile Neptune Kelly Hu (Miss Teen USA) Venus sextile Neptune
Oh I know the topic and btw I have cancer rising but still not interested in that stuff. The placements associated with the potential is interesting especially venus saturn. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 1629
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
|
posted August 31, 2015 10:04 PM
^^^ I know this straight guy who has cancer rising and he showed me pictures of himself when he was in his 20s and had entered a Miss America beauty pageant parody, and he won! IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 6900
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
|
posted September 01, 2015 12:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
What placements in a chart would make you think someone is fit to be in a beauty pageant?
I read that wrong. I thought the question was what placement would make someone think (of themselves) to be fit to enter a beauty pageant (regardless of beauty since plenty view themselves different than from everyone else), rather than what would be good placements to have if you wanted to and was an exploration of what in astrology encouraged one to think of one's own appearances positively or negatively (which I believe a few other threads were doing at the time this thread got started). I don't think astrology has much to do with beauty save in trivial ways. If anything I'd want to look at the placements of the actual judges and then compare them to the contestants (and also transits) just to see which of the contestants would be the most likely to make the most positive impression on them. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
Knowflake Posts: 444
From:
Registered: Jun 2013
|
posted September 01, 2015 03:21 PM
There is a woman born the same day as me that was a beauty queen and competed in Ms. Universe. She's a Scorpio Sun with Venus conjunct Saturn and Jupiter in Libra. I don't know her birth time, but her Moon is also in Libra. She doesn't fit my image of a typical beauty queen. I think that they usually have a generic beauty, and if you took away the big hair and heavy stage makeup, they would be pretty plain looking. She is very beautiful, and still models in her mid 30's. I agree with prominent Libra or Taurus placements, and Venus/Saturn aspects too. I have noticed a lot of Venus/Saturn women seem to never age. I know of 2 other women that also have my same chart. One is a soap opera actress and the other is a former Playboy model. I got a good laugh out of that. I wish I knew all of their birth times to see what house their Libra stellium falls in. Mine is in the 8th and includes a tight Moon/Pluto conjunction. It's surprising to see people with my same placements, and how the energies manifest differently. I use that same 5 planet Libra stellium as an interior designer. I wouldn't be caught dead in a pageant, and to act in soap operas would be hell on earth for me. I've been offered modeling gigs by a modeling scout and a photographer, but I didn't do them. I considered it, but I thought the men that approached me were pretty sleazy, so I turned down their offers. They were both very persistent, which made me more suspicious of their true motives. IP: Logged |
Lindaland
UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! 
