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aquaguy91
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posted September 11, 2015 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It all depends on how comfortable I am with the situation and the people involved. I usually hate public speaking in classroom settings because you are usually put on the spot and made to stand in front of everyone. However, I don't have an issue with participating in classroom discussions where everyone is participating and it isn't forced. The thing I hate most is when teachers expect you to get up in front of the class on the first day and tell the class about yourself. I never have understood why some teachers insist on doing that. Nobody likes doing it and atleast half the class probably doesn't give a d*mn what any given individual like me has to say about myself so why should we do it? Why can't we just reveal ourselves over time as we see fit to the people we want to reveal ourselves to? I blame my attitude on sun in Aquarius conjunct saturn in the 12th.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 11, 2015 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Why can't we just reveal ourselves over time as we see fit to the people we want to reveal ourselves to? I blame my attitude on sun in Aquarius conjunct saturn in the 12th.


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angel4845
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posted September 13, 2015 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
It all depends on how comfortable I am with the situation and the people involved. I usually hate public speaking in classroom settings because you are usually put on the spot and made to stand in front of everyone. However, I don't have an issue with participating in classroom discussions where everyone is participating and it isn't forced. The thing I hate most is when teachers expect you to get up in front of the class on the first day and tell the class about yourself. I never have understood why some teachers insist on doing that. Nobody likes doing it and atleast half the class probably doesn't give a d*mn what any given individual like me has to say about myself so why should we do it? Why can't we just reveal ourselves over time as we see fit to the people we want to reveal ourselves to? I blame my attitude on sun in Aquarius conjunct saturn in the 12th.

i hate it when teachers do that they make you stand up in front of the class and talk about yourself in fact I'm in university right now and i was taking a music appreciation class and this teacher that i have in this class SHE IS SO AGGRAVATING TO ME.....im sorry but man she was a elementary school teacher and a pre school teacher and taught so many years to little kids that now she is teaching to university students in there 20s-30s and she totally treats us like little kids totally unnecessary for her to do that AND i was this close to stand up and tell her what's wrong with her...really i was i wanted to do something about it because i see no common sense for he r to do that to a university classroom setting. i completely agree with you 100% omg and if it happens again i will probably start a fight with the teacher cause this really is upsetting to me in fact i will ask her to give me a LOGICAL REASON behind this AND i will not speak of myself and be forced to do something i' m not comfortable doing PS: i also have a planet in the 12th house in jupiter virgo retrograde).
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MoonBunny
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posted September 17, 2015 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
It all depends on how comfortable I am with the situation and the people involved. I usually hate public speaking in classroom settings because you are usually put on the spot and made to stand in front of everyone. However, I don't have an issue with participating in classroom discussions where everyone is participating and it isn't forced. The thing I hate most is when teachers expect you to get up in front of the class on the first day and tell the class about yourself. I never have understood why some teachers insist on doing that. Nobody likes doing it and atleast half the class probably doesn't give a d*mn what any given individual like me has to say about myself so why should we do it? Why can't we just reveal ourselves over time as we see fit to the people we want to reveal ourselves to? I blame my attitude on sun in Aquarius conjunct saturn in the 12th.

I feel ya aquaguy lol the 12th house struggles are real and legit. I feel the same way.

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Sylven
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posted September 18, 2015 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
i hate it when teachers do that they make you stand up in front of the class and talk about yourself in fact I'm in university right now and i was taking a music appreciation class and this teacher that i have in this class SHE IS SO AGGRAVATING TO ME.....im sorry but man she was a elementary school teacher and a pre school teacher and taught so many years to little kids that now she is teaching to university students in there 20s-30s and she totally treats us like little kids totally unnecessary for her to do that AND i was this close to stand up and tell her what's wrong with her...really i was i wanted to do something about it because i see no common sense for he r to do that to a university classroom setting. i completely agree with you 100% omg and if it happens again i will probably start a fight with the teacher cause this really is upsetting to me in fact i will ask her to give me a LOGICAL REASON behind this AND i will not speak of myself and be forced to do something i' m not comfortable doing PS: i also have a planet in the 12th house in jupiter virgo retrograde).

Ok, in general.
I work with teachers @ a vocational school. Having been an instructor myself as well. Now I work as an advisor, counselor and hear too many stories about bad teaching. I just don't understand why one would become a teacher when they treat people like shite. Is it their ego's? They think they know it all and don't care about your point of view. Really makes me upset because I have always had trouble with teachers and authority. It's just not the way!

I think many students are not being seen for who they really are and that upsets me!

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MoonBunny
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posted September 18, 2015 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had 2 presentations this week, and I had to be intoxicated for both lol ...pisces problems

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Soltze
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posted September 18, 2015 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury square Pluto gives the deepest sexiest voice. You will pay attention.
And the dark jokes. God I love it! :-P

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MoonBunny
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posted September 18, 2015 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol@ Soltze, is that an aspect you have??? I love dark humor lol

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nove731
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posted September 19, 2015 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roughly half of my job is public speaking, so I should hope so.

I feel like I can thank my Sun/Moon combo (Aries/Sag), Mars in the 5th (Aquarius), as well as my Jupiter (10th/Cancer)/MC (Gemini) conjunction. I think my Sun in the 7th makes me charming for some people, also. Moon in the 3rd House probably doesn't hurt, either.

I'm pretty good at working the room and grabbing people's attention. I find the whole process to be thrilling and exhilarating. Whenever I've led a particularly good training session, I sometimes feel so great that I may as well be on drugs.

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nove731
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posted September 19, 2015 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
It all depends on how comfortable I am with the situation and the people involved. I usually hate public speaking in classroom settings because you are usually put on the spot and made to stand in front of everyone. However, I don't have an issue with participating in classroom discussions where everyone is participating and it isn't forced. The thing I hate most is when teachers expect you to get up in front of the class on the first day and tell the class about yourself. I never have understood why some teachers insist on doing that. Nobody likes doing it and atleast half the class probably doesn't give a d*mn what any given individual like me has to say about myself so why should we do it? Why can't we just reveal ourselves over time as we see fit to the people we want to reveal ourselves to? I blame my attitude on sun in Aquarius conjunct saturn in the 12th.

It's usually not so much to get you to know each other (or even working under the assumption that you care to get to know each other) so much as it is to get you to bring yourselves into the room and be "present." I do something similar to this for a lot of training sessions that I lead (I don't make people go to the front of the room - that's obnoxious), but I do have them introduce themselves in some way. Engagement and participation in group discussion is almost always much stronger compared to sessions where I haven't done intros.

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Sylven
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posted September 19, 2015 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonBunny:
Lol@ Soltze, is that an aspect you have??? I love dark humor lol

Me too, I love dark and edgy humor (sometimes over the edge .. )!

I guess you can't count my Merc/Pluto, it's 10 degrees wide.

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Sylven
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posted September 19, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nove731:
It's usually not so much to get you to know each other (or even working under the assumption that you care to get to know each other) so much as it is to get you to bring yourselves into the room and be "present." I do something similar to this for a lot of training sessions that I lead (I don't make people go to the front of the room - that's obnoxious), but I do have them introduce themselves in some way. Engagement and participation in group discussion is almost always [b]much stronger compared to sessions where I haven't done intros.

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Oh yeah! Definitely!

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MoonBunny
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posted September 22, 2015 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonBunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sylven:
Me too, I love dark and edgy humor (sometimes over the edge .. )!

I guess you can't count my Merc/Pluto, it's 10 degrees wide.


My Pluto is nearly unaspected and intercepted so I don't know what I have to thank for this dark humor appreciation lol maybe growing up with a Scorp ASC brother did it.

Some people believe in 'wide' conjunctions so who knows!

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