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Soltze
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posted September 07, 2015 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hell no...jealous possessive men look wimpy and weak to me. Like they're trying too hard and overcompensate. I'm wild no one can control me hahaha
A truly composed and sexy man, trusts me absolutely and respects my space.
I get uncontrolably angry if I find concrete reasons to be jealous.
I can handle looking around and being nice to other women. More than that I don't tolerate.Specially if he has the sad idea of making me jealous on purpose.
Mind games...no thanks.

Bah here we go...speaking of my moon again.
It's conjunct pluto in scorpio, 8th house

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posted September 07, 2015 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soltze:
Hell no...jealous possessive men look wimpy and weak to me. Like they're trying too hard and overcompensate. I'm wild no one can control me hahaha
A truly composed and sexy man, trusts me absolutely and respects my space.
I get uncontrolably angry if I find concrete reasons to be jealous.
I can handle looking around and being nice to other women. More than that I don't tolerate.Specially if he has the sad idea of making me jealous on purpose.
Mind games...no thanks.

Bah here we go...speaking of my moon again.
It's conjunct pluto in scorpio, 8th house


Wow scorpio moon and you dont like jealous men. Wonder what your chart looks like

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posted September 07, 2015 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for erickaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Do you have any uranian aspects/qualities? Aquarius signs?

What is your mars sign? If you dont mind me asking.


Yes I have Moon in Aquarius parallel Uranus and Uranus is on my ASC, so I am super Uranian...if you are too intense, possessive, jealous, sensitive, stay the h e l l away from me...in fact when I date I make sure they don't have Scorpio personal planets...
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Soltze
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posted September 07, 2015 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Wow scorpio moon and you dont like jealous men. Wonder what your chart looks like

Must be my Gemini stellium which includes my Sun
Also my Uranus is unaspected...wild card there

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posted September 07, 2015 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't care for super intense feeling, jealousy, and all that. It might be my 5H Sag stellium that includes Mars-Uranus (and moon, Eros). And that's sextile a Libra 3H stellium (includes sun and Pluto) which could explain the need to socialize with others and it's only fair I extend that right to others.

Or it could be I've dealt with people like that, men and women, and it left a very bad taste. Hell, one terrified me and gave me nightmares.

That said I love passion and intensity, just don't direct too much of it at me. I need a long leash, my friends (one an ex, another I consider a platonic soul mate, this has caused trouble before), and not be burdened with feeling like I'm not only responsible for myself but for someone else as well, that is I feel the obligation and burden that comes with such power (and being Plutonian I know how dangerous that can be, and how passionate love and acts of passion can turn into passionate hatred and crimes of passion).

Another reason could be the way I was raised. I don't feel like explaining it again, so suffice to say I was raised to have a life beyond a partner, unlike many females, and that gives me plenty of interests outside of a relationship that are just as important (like many men, actually, relationships are important, but so is a lot of other stuff and that other stuff isn't a "mere hobby"). That alone would require I have some space to pour my own intensity into, and also why I can relate to partners who have their own passions in other areas which makes them more interesting to me without making me feel burdened or even endangered.

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posted September 07, 2015 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i like a possesive guy but if he shows too much emotion or too much possesion ill lose interest and back away cause that shows insecurity and we scorpio ladies need a stronggggg man be possesive but hide it a little

scorpio venus conjunct pluto here all in 8th house

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posted September 07, 2015 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soltze, we sound kinda similar!! you have aries rising too i bet venus and moon placements can act really similar to each other. my sun is cappy conjunct uranus and im a libra moon so yea too much emotion and ill get really uncomfortable like, ewww lol its like lighten up weirdooo, i always play like little kids with the guys that i like lol

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posted September 07, 2015 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoseLily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Do you find it attractive when a man is possessive of you?

Yes, but not obsessive.
I like feeling like I am THE one, but not to the point of creepiness or stalking.

Do you also find it attractive when a man gets jealous?
It can be endearing, to a point.
I also have a Leo venus in fifth, so I love the spotlight, I crave attention and I absolutely adore the feeling of being desired, and this can clash quite disgustingly with jealous people.

Do you find it attractive when a man is overly emotional?
No. I don't deal well with feelings, I hate feelings. Emotions is alright, but too much and I just lose it and my brain freeze over. I don't know how to react when burdened with feelings, and my pisces ascendant makes it so that I will just absorb everything and I won't be able to make the difference between my feelings and his. I have enough difficulties with my own emotions LOL.

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posted September 07, 2015 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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A truly composed and sexy man, trusts me absolutely and respects my space.

Exactly. And I would likewise respect his space. I find it completely normal to check others out. This doesn't even slightly upset me. Nor do female friends or whatever.
Maybe it's an age thing as well. In my teens it might've upset me.

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the sad idea of making me jealous on purpose.
Mind games...no thanks.

Yeah... This is really insecure behaviour. And it usually comes with added neediness, attention-seeking and mother issues. I just don't have the time or energy to mother an adult... #yeesh

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I feel like that more describes pisces, virgo, cancer and maybe even libra. These signs like being "kept" and owned and taken care of. Scorpio likes the be the one that possesses. Taurus too and even aries. Plutonic people need a strong partner. The strength makes them feel safe and secure. They are still a fixed sign and stability makes them feel secure, and they need to feel secure in order to really open up.

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posted September 07, 2015 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I think they like ob-sessive men, rather than po-ssessive men.


Yes, that does pretty much sum it up for me. I'm definitely not trying to be controlled outright, by any means.
A Pisces I may be, but plenty of Pluto, Scorpio, and 8th house stuff in my chart there is. (Don't mind my wording, I'm just channeling my inner Yoda.)

Anyhoo, I would definitely never go out of my way to make anyone feel insecure, jealous, etc. But a healthy dose of obsession is entirely pleasant for me.

I also have Pluto opposite Venus.

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posted September 08, 2015 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if I qualify, but Pluto is my AC ruler, chart ruler and is dominant in my chart. Scorp AC, Taurus Sun/Merc/DC, 5H Venus and 1H Uranus (which I think is the game-changer for me).

Do you find it attractive when a man is possessive of you?

I find it incredibly attractive when a guy I'm romantically involved with wants to spend a lot of time alone with me. I consider myself to be a pretty social person but I'm very private in relationships - I think this can be considered a mild form of possessiveness honestly. I get along best with a man that is layered as I like to uncover new things about my loved ones that other people don't know about them. I like when the guy I'm with feels the same about me, so yea...in that regard I think there's a little bit of a possessiveness preference there.

Of course, as soon as someone stops respecting my space and my individuality, starts distrusting me when he's not around, or tries to control me in any way I freak out.

The BIGGEST turn on for me is someone who is RESPECTFUL, even in the wake of his own wants/feelings.

Do you also find it attractive when a man gets jealous?

I think jealousy is a very natural thing in relationships. Regardless of how much you trust someone or how secure you feel in the relationship, there can still be vulnerable moments when someone you see as competition enters the picture. Again, if the guy I'm dating is respectful and mature about his feelings it can be quite endearing to see that vulnerability every once and a while. Otherwise the relationship starts to feel a little too frienship-y for me.

If the guy starts fights with randos who smile at me or something idiotic like that, I'm out.

Do you find it attractive when a man is overly emotional?

I love a man with a composed exterior tempering exceptional emotional depth. Childish men or overly sensitive men unable to control their outbursts (AND women)...not remotely interested in having those people in my life. In my experience the relationship (or friendship even) will never be balanced and you will run into problems with questions 1 and 2 constantly.

As a side note: There was another thread here maybe a few months ago that discussed Plutonic people's experiences with possessive/obsessive people. I am someone who has been objectified in this way by friends, admirers, and acquaintances throughout my life and it is the biggest turn off EVER. As soon as someone starts treating me like property and not like the independent, grown-*** woman I am, it's over for me.

Again, being honorable and respectful is key for me. I tend to gravitate toward Saturnine men for this reason.

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posted September 08, 2015 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 08, 2015 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I think they like ob-sessive men, rather than po-ssessive men.

Lol! Yea, I think this about covers it for me. I like to be thought about/obsessed over a bit by someone who is composed and self-possessed so things don't get weird. As soon as the guy starts becoming controlling or possessive it's super unattractive. Like others have mentioned, it's just a big red flag signaling insecurity and immaturity.

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posted September 08, 2015 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh hell no! I have Scorpio Venus and NO. I don't do the possessive/jealous thing. It comes across as immature, needy, codependent and not masculine at all. Yuck.

However, I have a Sag moon. I cannot be caged.

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posted September 08, 2015 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
I think they like ob-sessive men, rather than po-ssessive men.


Yes. THIS. Pay attention to me and notice things about me. Do I look sad? Find out why. Want to get me a nice birthday present? Spend time obsessing over what I might like... etc.

But DO NOT try to keep track of me. I will run screaming for the exit.

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posted September 08, 2015 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like to be caged in a possessive relationship

but

I fricken LOVE it when a man heaves his chest and shows he's jealous. It revs me up and turns me on haha. I love when they are protective of me and will stand up and be my man (Taurus DSC).
My ex didn't flinch when I talked to other guys and it kinda annoyed me lol.

With everything there needs to be a fine balance....don't wanna be no bird stuck in a cage.

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posted September 08, 2015 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Not sure if I qualify, but Pluto is my AC ruler, chart ruler and is dominant in my chart. Scorp AC, Taurus Sun/Merc/DC, 5H Venus and 1H Uranus (which I think is the game-changer for me).

[b]Do you find it attractive when a man is possessive of you?

I find it incredibly attractive when a guy I'm romantically involved with wants to spend a lot of time alone with me. I consider myself to be a pretty social person but I'm very private in relationships - I think this can be considered a mild form of possessiveness honestly. I get along best with a man that is layered as I like to uncover new things about my loved ones that other people don't know about them. I like when the guy I'm with feels the same about me, so yea...in that regard I think there's a little bit of a possessiveness preference there.

Of course, as soon as someone stops respecting my space and my individuality, starts distrusting me when he's not around, or tries to control me in any way I freak out.

The BIGGEST turn on for me is someone who is RESPECTFUL, even in the wake of his own wants/feelings.

Do you also find it attractive when a man gets jealous?

I think jealousy is a very natural thing in relationships. Regardless of how much you trust someone or how secure you feel in the relationship, there can still be vulnerable moments when someone you see as competition enters the picture. Again, if the guy I'm dating is respectful and mature about his feelings it can be quite endearing to see that vulnerability every once and a while. Otherwise the relationship starts to feel a little too frienship-y for me.

If the guy starts fights with randos who smile at me or something idiotic like that, I'm out.

Do you find it attractive when a man is overly emotional?

I love a man with a composed exterior tempering exceptional emotional depth. Childish men or overly sensitive men unable to control their outbursts (AND women)...not remotely interested in having those people in my life. In my experience the relationship (or friendship even) will never be balanced and you will run into problems with questions 1 and 2 constantly.

As a side note: There was another thread here maybe a few months ago that discussed Plutonic people's experiences with possessive/obsessive people. I am someone who has been objectified in this way by friends, admirers, and acquaintances throughout my life and it is the biggest turn off EVER. As soon as someone starts treating me like property and not like the independent, grown-*** woman I am, it's over for me.

Again, being honorable and respectful is key for me. I tend to gravitate toward Saturnine men for this reason.[/B]


Wow you articulated how I feel so much better than I could have and we have very similar placements. I'm scorpio asc, taurus sun/venus/dsc, 5th house Mercury, uranus 1st (conjunct asc).

A slight difference is I like the *idea* of being property, probably having venus in taurus but in reality i've hAd an experience, or two, that's conflicted - likely with - uranus in my chart. Having to become paranoid to head off others paranoia is not my idea of fun, well maybe merc-pluto opp twisted idea of fun but not when they step over being respectful of me as an individual and as you say show their lack of control.

And I do tend to gravitate to saturnine men too - I think it satisfies Uranian freedom, pluto control and a particular kind of intensity

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posted September 08, 2015 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Soltze, we sound kinda similar!! you have aries rising too i bet venus and moon placements can act really similar to each other. my sun is cappy conjunct uranus and im a libra moon so yea too much emotion and ill get really uncomfortable like, ewww lol its like lighten up weirdooo, i always play like little kids with the guys that i like lol


I totally get it, no one like you with an airy moon will like too much jealosy.

Hum, no I have Pisces Rising :-P I'm pretty sure it's the Gemini stuff, since the rest of my chart is pratically water hehe I should be super emotional but I'm not. Just when I'm annoyed :-P

About saturnine men...I don't know why but they're delicious to me. I always wind up obsessed with Sun conjunct Saturn guys, it's so weird. I feel like seducing them out of being responsible

Plus I like that lean, manly appearance they have. It's not super pretty but it's super sexy. You know the tormented librarian type huh

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posted September 08, 2015 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/mars opposite pluto, moon trine pluto, ascendant square pluto, if he's not possessive than I'm not loving it....jealousy I'm not too fond of

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posted September 08, 2015 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Scorpio ascendant and Pluto in Scorpio.

My answer is yes.

I like possessive men, but not as explicitly possessive as me. I like more of controlled, calm possessiveness. If that makes any sense. A taurian possessiveness.

Do you find it attractive when a man is possessive of you?

Yes, but a controlled possessiveness.

Do you also find it attractive when a man gets jealous?

A little but. I think it shows they care in a weird way.

Do you find it attractive when a man is overly emotional?

No. However, I appreciate a guy being able to tell me that what I did or have done upset him or affected him.

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posted September 08, 2015 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zirr1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Moon

Do you find it attractive when a man is possessive of you?

Yeah

Do you also find it attractive when a man gets jealous?

Yeah it shows me he cares in a way..

Do you find it attractive when a man is overly emotional?

Passionate..

I am a possessive type aswell but I try hide it..

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posted September 08, 2015 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ikja:

I like possessive men, but not as explicitly possessive as me. I like more of controlled, calm possessiveness. If that makes any sense. A taurian possessiveness.

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posted September 08, 2015 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that's nice. I could handle a "you're mine" kind of statement said with passion. But no jealosy or control plz.

Plus, controling someone in their face is pretty amateurish for a scorpio moon like moi. I can find out stuff and the guy will never know :-D
That's the classy way to do it

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posted September 08, 2015 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by florence:
Wow you articulated how I feel so much better than I could have and we have very similar placements. I'm scorpio asc, taurus sun/venus/dsc, 5th house Mercury, uranus 1st (conjunct asc).

A slight difference is I like the *idea* of being property, probably having venus in taurus but in reality i've hAd an experience, or two, that's conflicted - likely with - uranus in my chart. Having to become paranoid to head off others paranoia is not my idea of fun, well maybe merc-pluto opp twisted idea of fun but not when they step over being respectful of me as an individual and as you say show their lack of control.

And I do tend to gravitate to saturnine men too - I think it satisfies Uranian freedom, pluto control and a particular kind of intensity


Aw, we are two of a kind That makes a lot of sense actually. I have an Aries Venus, so even the idea of being anyone's "property" makes me feel like I need to break free. But on the other hand, I do need a bit of jealousy to feel special/needed. With a Taurus Venus that fits perfectly.

Well put about Saturn men. I never thought about it like that, but I agree completely. It's a perfect medium for such extreme planets

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