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Topic: Cancer men and game playing
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sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 08:00 AM
Ok, I seem to know a lot of cancer's in my life, and a lot of them have been extremely manipulative, jealous and love playing games. Is this true? Any cancer men out there can confirm this? They reel you in, tell you they love you etc, then disappear and do something to make you upset. They play games to intentionally hurt you?I had been on and off with a Cancer man for years and years, he was extremely possessive of me and jealous but yet wouldn't commit to me and would disappear for months at a time (sometimes dating another bust mostly just doing his own thing). I told him we should date other people last time we saw one another, he said we tried that and it didn't work got a little upset.. what do you know.. 2 month later after not contacting me yet again he is in a new relationship.. publicizing on social media with no time to waste they play these games? what is your experience with cancer males? IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 738 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 08, 2015 08:15 AM
Nope. What else is in his chart? It sounds like he might have some air or fire influence and i wouldn`t have been surprised if he had something in gemini. Cancer`s are too clingy to play games like that. IP: Logged |
sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 08:18 AM
He does have Gemini moon and Gemini Venus. not sure about rising. I am also a Gem venus, and I do like to flirt/play games but not to that extent. he is clingy though.. but it seems more of a desperation for attention IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 738 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 08, 2015 08:35 AM
I think the clinginess comes from his cancer sun and maybe moon–venus conjunction if they do make an aspect but the game playing jumping in and out of relationships going months at a time not speaking being fickle etc etc definitivly comes from the gemini influence. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 796 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 09:35 AM
Sometimes I wonder about these things. I've been accused of playing games multiple times. I always had a reason for my actions, or lack of actions. I wasn't always right in it, but I always had a reason that made sense to me. I've played games but only with light flirting. I've never dangled a relationship possibility in front of someone. I don't always voice what I'm feeling or thinking. Being mercurial, as he would be (emotionally) with Gemini moon. We don't like to waste our time and that includes having some heartfelt discussion about it. It's going to work or it won't which leaves you with the options our staying or walking away. Spending effort going through all the emotion and etc to talk out feelings with something that isn't going to work anyway just seems like a waste of time. Just giving you some insight into their perspective. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 536 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 08, 2015 09:36 AM
Maturity definitely has something to do with it too. My boyfriend in his 30's has Cancer Sun/Gemini Venus (Taurus Moon though) and while the fun, flirty nature is still there he is faithful and takes his commitments seriously. Once he is in love he puts 100% of himself into it.IP: Logged |
sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 09:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Sometimes I wonder about these things. I've been accused of playing games multiple times. I always had a reason for my actions, or lack of actions. I wasn't always right in it, but I always had a reason that made sense to me. I've played games but only with light flirting. I've never dangled a relationship possibility in front of someone. I don't always voice what I'm feeling or thinking. Being mercurial, as he would be (emotionally) with Gemini moon. We don't like to waste our time and that includes having some heartfelt discussion about it. It's going to work or it won't which leaves you with the options our staying or walking away. Spending effort going through all the emotion and etc to talk out feelings with something that isn't going to work anyway just seems like a waste of time. Just giving you some insight into their perspective.
Hmm. I guess it has to do with maturity on his part. I've heard they do commit when it's right. It's just hard for me to understand, as we were involved on and off for 7+ years and he had told me he wants to marry me one day, etc. then we get into another fight and bam.. he's in a new relationship. I guess I perceive that as a game but maybe not. I know cancer's usually don't just get over something overnight, am i right? IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 796 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 10:04 AM
Eh, partly maturity I suppose but also hardwired into that moon. I've done stuff like that before and have walked away because of a fight, or some other thing. Basically it's like, "it's difficult right now and the potential positive outcome is being overshadowed by the effort needed. It at least should be making progress to something smoother." Then a big fight when things have already been difficult the entire time (or it seems to be unnecessarily complex and complicated) = I'm out of here. It's not worth all this effort.
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sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 10:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Eh, partly maturity I suppose but also hardwired into that moon. I've done stuff like that before and have walked away because of a fight, or some other thing. Basically it's like, "it's difficult right now and the potential positive outcome is being overshadowed by the effort needed. It at least should be making progress to something smoother." Then a big fight when things have already been difficult the entire time (or it seems to be unnecessarily complex and complicated) = I'm out of here. It's not worth all this effort.
Interesting. he's definitely been "out of here" many times but makes his way back everytime. so this new relationship he entered really got to me
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 536 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted September 08, 2015 11:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by sunshinedragon: Hmm. I guess it has to do with maturity on his part. I've heard they do commit when it's right. It's just hard for me to understand, as we were involved on and off for 7+ years and he had told me he wants to marry me one day, etc. then we get into another fight and bam.. he's in a new relationship. I guess I perceive that as a game but maybe not. I know cancer's usually don't just get over something overnight, am i right?
In my experience so far (but again it's dependent on the entire chart - aspects and houses etc. as each individual is different) I think it really is a matter of feeling "right" to them and when they find that feeling, they CLING. It's very hard for them to open up to someone, but once they do, they have a hard time letting go. I know a bit about my boyfriend's past and it seems he was no stranger to playing the game in his younger years, especially when he wasn't sure about someone. I get the sense he also dipped out abruptly when it got too intense and he wasn't that serious about them. The man you're dealing with at the moment may not be mature enough yet to know how his actions are affecting others. He is probably struggling with wanting that emotional closeness yet the freedom to also come and go - hence the revolving door of relationships. He needs to find someone who is trustworthy, dependable and unwavering emotionally (Cancer) yet also fun, quirky and little unpredictable (Gemini) to keep him interested long-term. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 2917 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 08, 2015 12:33 PM
Cancer men are prolly the most manipulative males there are..I havent dealt with one, mind you, but i hear it over and over again. Its also a frequent sun signs of serial killers or abdicators. Ariel Castro, the Cleveland abdicator, is the latest one. An office friend of mine who got a restraining order against her ex husband also shared with me how distressed he makes her. Thinking about restraining orders and attacks , my first thought was - Is he an Aries? She said- No he is a Cancer. I said - did he ever hurt you physically? She said - No. But he is extremely manipulative. Emotionally manipulative. ( her words exactly, and she has no clue about astrology descriptions). IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 738 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 08, 2015 01:00 PM
@Orange It is so much more than sun sign you need to consider. Have you checked Ariel castro`s astrology chart? He had an aquarius moon that received some hard aspects. Both his sun and venus also opposited saturn and he had a mars square uranus aspect. Another rapist and kidnapper is Phillip Garrido, he has an aries moon that receives some hard aspects too. I have said this before and i`ll say it again in my opinion the moon sign and aspects it receives has the biggest influence on how a person operates i have seen this too many times now. Saturn also in both of their charts did make some hard aspects to their personal planets and i`ve seen people with afflicted saturns like to be the misery bringer or drag people down. IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 585 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 01:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaminess: Nope. What else is in his chart? It sounds like he might have some air or fire influence and i wouldn`t have been surprised if he had something in gemini. Cancer`s are too clingy to play games like that.
Yeah more like this. Clingy. I had one that bored me to tears...1st date and bye bye. IP: Logged |
Dreaminess Knowflake Posts: 738 From: norway Registered: Aug 2014
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posted September 08, 2015 01:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Soltze: Yeah more like this. Clingy. I had one that bored me to tears...1st date and bye bye.
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HoodBlaze Knowflake Posts: 105 From: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 07:17 PM
I can tell you how to solve the problem but don't want to be an a-hole.... So being a cancer male all I can say is expect some crazy games. I have worked super hard, for years trying to cure myself of it and it still comes up time to time. Like I get home or in the middle of a conversation I am like oh **** this is going way too deep..IP: Logged |
HoodBlaze Knowflake Posts: 105 From: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 07:29 PM
Plus OP I don't know what the problem is, you said let's take a break and he said screw it i'm getting a partner that ISN'T PLAYING GAMES.... haha all I know is that if a woman says "We should take a break and date other people" they are playing games. That is the oldest trick in the book to yo yo someone around. That is almost a definition of playing a game, dating isn't rocket science you know who is out there. You either are in or out once things get a little serious. You wanted to hang out in the middle and now I can see you regret that because you posted here! IP: Logged |
sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by HoodBlaze: Plus OP I don't know what the problem is, you said let's take a break and he said screw it i'm getting a partner that ISN'T PLAYING GAMES.... haha all I know is that if a woman says "We should take a break and date other people" they are playing games. That is the oldest trick in the book to yo yo someone around. That is almost a definition of playing a game, dating isn't rocket science you know who is out there. You either are in or out once things get a little serious. You wanted to hang out in the middle and now I can see you regret that because you posted here!
haha.. well i get what you mean but it's more complicated than that. we've been on and off, as in see each other every few months just for a few weeks then back to silence because both of us are too stubborn to initiate (we have major control and communication issues) and its been a few years since we were solid. and he's mainly been the one who hasnt wanted to commit to me due to our issues and arguing which i do agree with, but we made it clear that we hoped we could one day work things out we were first loves and each others only so we felt we needed to venture out perhaps.. but being a woman i didn't really want that, but he wasn't giving me what i wanted and i felt played, so i did play a game by telling him lets date other people to see his reaction or spark a committment in him since he is also extremely jealous when or if i date/flirt with others.. and .. well, he did go and date someone. not sure if it's because of what i said, but he does play the games back and he always has. IP: Logged |
sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 08, 2015 08:11 PM
just saying, ive made it clear to him how much I love and care for him, he knows i'd be ready to commit to him. I just had it with that so then i can't help but to sometimes play games out of anger and hurt i'm also not that vain to think that the only reason he's dating a new girl is because i said that or to make me jealous, but i do think it's a little weird seeing as he never has beforeIP: Logged |
curiouspisces89 Knowflake Posts: 57 From: UK Registered: Jul 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 02:54 AM
I have been in long term relationships with two cancer sun men. One was even cancer sun and asc. I can honestly say that they have both played games, been manipulative and didn't want to commit to anything. Even work wise. We have dated years ago and they are still facing the same issues today... They are in their 30s. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6087 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted September 09, 2015 03:56 AM
Oh wow.. I've never in my life had this happen with Cancers - or seen this kind of behaviour in Cancers... *shrug* quote: They reel you in, tell you they love you etc, then disappear and do something to make you upset. They play games to intentionally hurt you?
That's actually really weird for a Cancer guy... He obviously has issues. It doesn't have much to do with his Sun sign... imo IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 6087 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted September 09, 2015 03:59 AM
Wait... Your nickname has "dragon" in it... Are you both dragons in Chinese?I'd expect just about anything from a dragon male (of any Western Sun sign). IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 585 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 04:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by HoodBlaze: I can tell you how to solve the problem but don't want to be an a-hole.... So being a cancer male all I can say is expect some crazy games. I have worked super hard, for years trying to cure myself of it and it still comes up time to time. Like I get home or in the middle of a conversation I am like oh **** this is going way too deep..
Oh but I'm like that as well. Don't like going in deep and run away a bit. But the cancer man I dated he didn't even know me in person yet and he was like so clingy. Plus, he has an obssession with his family. He lived with his aunt and two sisters and he was 40! He has a well paid job...so that was just weird for me. He started talking about kids and I was like...no no no :-D
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Soltze Knowflake Posts: 585 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 04:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Oh wow.. I've never in my life had this happen with Cancers - or seen this kind of behaviour in Cancers... *shrug* That's actually really weird for a Cancer guy... He obviously has issues. It doesn't have much to do with his Sun sign... imo
Sounds more like a bad scorpio type lol IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 796 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 11:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Wait... Your nickname has "dragon" in it... Are you both dragons in Chinese?I'd expect just about anything from a dragon male (of any Western Sun sign).
So you're saying that we're unpredictable? I'd agree with that if that's what you mean. IP: Logged |
sunshinedragon Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 09, 2015 12:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Wait... Your nickname has "dragon" in it... Are you both dragons in Chinese?I'd expect just about anything from a dragon male (of any Western Sun sign).
nope.. i don't know anything about chinese signs.. he's a horse, and i'm a goat... IP: Logged |