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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 12, 2015 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that passive aggression can be an issue for a lot of people with Mars in Pisces. Codependency may also be an issue.

However, these are not inherent weaknesses of Mars in Pisces as a placement, but the imbalanced behavioral or emotional patterns some develop.

There is a balancing place - a healthy one - for each planet/sign placement. The weakness of Mars in Pisces is essentially that the kinesthetic martial urge to take action is working in a mode of expression (sign) that favors the visual/auditory/imaginative over direct assertion. So the person puts in more thought or deference where action may need to go.

Mars = kinesthetic, action.
Pisces = a mode that greatly emphasizes the visual, and secondly the auditory.

This placement is great for artists and those who are not at the leading edge of things. If not involved in a creative outlet, many of these folks may lean towards religious beliefs that tell them what to do, or resort to cutting corners rather than being realistic about the work involved.

Detachment from practical steps to get to the vision held in mind.

I wouldn't equate this placement with laziness, but with a cerebralized 'DO' impulse (active imagination). These folks have the tendency to become overwhelmed by a chaotic environment (or one in which they don't set the order), and have to pull away.

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posted September 13, 2015 06:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh VERY helpful insights
Lots I could relate to, plus more..
Thanks for all your contributions.

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Koniucha
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posted September 13, 2015 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Sag, but it is also conjunct Neptune. I relate more to Mars in Pisces.

I would say the weakness can be standing up for yourself. Also not allowing yourself to be angry or have any negative emotions.

Positive is very compassionate and creative.

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posted September 15, 2015 03:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenaia:
I'm a Mars in Pisces. I'd say I don't like confrontation because I'd rather something calmly get discussed before things get in-your-face-accusatory and wild emotions start getting spat in other's faces. I grew up in a very, very irrational and combative household when I was younger so I've grown to hate that "style" of argument so to speak. I'd say when I was a young teenager I was passive aggressive - mostly just because I didn't know any better. I now find passive aggressiveness weak and currently approach problems with a calm, forthright attitude instead, although I will ponder for months if this issue is worth "rocking the boat" of the tone of a friendship beforehand. Zero beating around the bush is involved but there is an undertone of tact there. I'd rather resolve something than burn a bridge, but there are times when respect is thin between both parties and there is no better option because things only continue to get worse with time even after a good hashing out of the problem at hand.

Sexually, I prefer to be submissive, but I'm still an "active" participant in all ways and the furthest thing from lazy. I'm athletic (workout in the weight room 5-6 days a week, go running for 3-5 miles on one of those days, take a kickboxing class once a week, go to bikram yoga throughout the month, and go hiking in the local forests with my boyfriend whenever he has a day off from work). I'm very much a last minute student whenever it comes to assignments, but I'm also a perfectionist and anything less than an A bothers the hell out of me. This could be the Virgo ASC speaking though.

I'm soft-spoken but know when to command a strong voice and rarely ever waver from my convictions when I've intuited and reasoned everything out in my mind. It is difficult to manipulate me - I've had my share of manipulating people when I was a teenager/young adult but I rue the inclination in others and I believe I've successfully weeded out the desire to do this myself these days.

My Mars is apart of my grand water trine with Jupiter in Cancer (exalted) and Pluto in Scorpio (exalted) which can pack a really good punch when strength is called upon, so there's that. There are times when I look back at the way I handled a situation many years ago and wish that I wasn't so "weak" then, but I am only 25 and handle myself with more poise and grace each year that goes on, so I do believe that this is a Mars that is capable of learning and improving itself if the owner puts in the hard toiled psychological landscaping necessary to better oneself.

(Sorry I know this thread is meant to talk about the worst qualities of this sign but honestly EVERYTHING about it is the antithesis of what a Mars "should" be and every thread about this Mars is already pretty damn awful as it is so I had to represent some positivity here)


I also grew up in a household like yours..and feel same way.
I'm very impressed how evolved you are at ONLY 25.
Very inspirational.

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SoStellarOne
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posted September 15, 2015 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoStellarOne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Pisces and I would become so frustrated at myself for being too forgiving because people these days do try to take advantage of that. Ironically, I tend to have alot of trouble with Mars in Scorpio individuals because they often try to manipulate me, but my Mercury in Aquarius is not having it with the games. If you're young, having Mars in Pisces will be frustrating, but as you get older you get a firmer grasp on it and you learn how to avoid being in the doormat position. Over the years, I've realized that I have a right to say "No" and that I feel so much better when I say it. People will try you, but you just have to know how to weed out the users and the losers.

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Gemini30
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posted September 15, 2015 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The mars in pisces people i know have mars trine pluto. It really makes them very sexual and anything but passive.

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posted September 15, 2015 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I've only ever encountered one Mars in Pisces. Is this a rare placement?

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Mergoatsun
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posted September 15, 2015 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Mars in Pisces does not naturally have the strength of decisive, immediate action at the ready. The tendency is not to assert self, but to engage in lines of action which 'go with the flow' of those around, or to engage in imagining first. This can weaken one's ability to bolster personal confidence, and a can-do attitude. One's imagination reaches broadly and in the scope, self seems small.

Great difficulty in understanding the practical steps needed to reach a dream or goal. Needs such help to keep from drifting off into a false confidence induced by one's own mental activity or fantasy.

Another way of seeing it, is that [b]the Martial kinesthetic DO impulse is rendered far more visual and cerebral. Lines of direct action may not be felt/seen amongst the cerebral or emotional clutter.

Of course, this is not a summary of the entire personality of a person with Mars in Pisces in their birth charts. It is only one factor. We can all have contradictory tendencies, as many charts show.

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Yep. I've found that mars in pisces have fairytale goals and irrational goals with no way to get there. Anot her big problem is they can use escapism quite a bit when their energy is overwhelming or too low. Things can accumulate to become too much and instead of tackling it head on they choose to use escape methods and be passive

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DrewMann
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posted September 16, 2015 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrewMann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
The mars in pisces people i know have mars trine pluto. It really makes them very sexual and anything but passive.

Aha!! That's more like it!! I have mars in pisces opposite my sun and Jupiter and trine moon in scorpio. I can tell you I am so not passive.

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posted October 17, 2015 09:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Mars in Pisces 7th

though it is square pluto (0 orb,very tight) also sextile saturn tightly,so idk how this changes my mars placement.

From experience i can tell you yes,in the beginning in life i did have trouble standing up for myself.Ive been bullied very badly by kids in elementary and in middle school,but that was because i was nice,wasnt the type to mess with anyone.i never really had anyone help me,especially if i needed it.My family was there but they never really did understand me.ive been abused by my parents before,so i never had anyone to rely on,only my mom.

I always had to do things alone if i wanted something.Obviously that involved manipulation/back-stabbing/cutting people off.Now that im older (15 years old and in highschool)everytime i remember myself before,when i was weak,i just feel angrer,which makes me push foward with my ambitions. ive had a very assertive personality,i always knew this world was very cold,and my survival was more important so i had to use tactics (Mars/pisces) to gain power (pluto/sagittarius).

Power has been something ive wanted all my life,and i will do whatever it takes to get it.When i play,i play dirty,i tend to be a very sneaky person.there has been people who has tried to manipulate me,but my Mercury in Aquarius knows when they see BS.in my opinion those that are saying that mars in pisces are wimps,i may disprove that alot.i tend to be very good at getting at i want,but i do it using the typical pisces tactics (indirectly attacking,manipulating) to get what i want.

(no offense to anyone to this forum,but i really dont believe i am weak,ive fought very hard in life,and i am hoping to have power/being the top in life)

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