posted September 12, 2015 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
All mine are currently at 29 degrees. Asc/Dsc in Virgo/Pisces and MC/IC in Taurus/Scorpio. In April 2017 (per astro.com) they will all have gone 0 degrees Cardinal. My birth time is 100% correct. Is this some sort of significant turning point in my life? What, to me, is even more interesting is that 2017 is a Universal year 1 and my personal years are always parallel which makes it a personal year 1 for me as well.

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There are good reasons nto to expect anything in particular from this. More important are any culmination progressed aspects during that time.

I cover it here at length (4th post down):
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/232518.html
3rd section - progression of Asc/calculated points (not in accordance with original daily motion).

posted September 12, 2015 06:27 PM            

One's experiences are entirely subjective to this reality.

In addition, unless you have cast a chart using exact birth location coordinates (hospital), and verified its accuracy to the minute of arc, you cannot know exactly when such a sign change happens. Common practice of casting charts based on even minute times, say 6:07 PM, give an Asc slack averaging at minimum <0*14'> from exact. If allowing for time slack between clocks of 4 minutes time, this would allow a minimum of 1* of Asc slack. That equates to 1 year of time on average for progressions.

So this is why this is a nearly guaranteed non-event based on the chart's own definitions within common chart casting practice.

astra7, to answer your question, my own exactly verified natal Asc [17VIR14.4'] and MC [16GEM29.6'] progressed simultaneously into the succeeding signs of Libra (Asc) and Cancer (MC) in late March 1985, just a month before my 15th birthday.

There was nothing worth noting, except that this might have occurred around the time I developed affection for a girl in my school around that time. Although my memory could easily be a year off. (No relationship developed.) What is most significant is that weeks later prog Asc made exact sextile to natal Neptune [0SAG09], then later that year to natal Jupiter [0SCO26].

This brings up a point where the only way to 'get it' is to go outside and watch the sky or keep a program like ASTROLOG in Animation mode and watch how during an entire 24-hour period the entire zodiac moves over the Asc. That is how a chart should progress for each year of your life: every sign moves fully across the Asc & MC.

The common method of (secondary) progressing the chart in tiny increments averaging 1* of net gain each year is bogus, and only for the calculating convenience of astrologers. It creates the appearance of an 'event' at a change of signs that is not actually taking place, something that takes place on average every month of your life.

posted September 12, 2015 06:41 PM            

Yes, relatively, but not so much in terms of signs, but when making aspects with progressed planets or natal points as potential landmarks related to life events. And only if the angles are first verified pretty tightly accurate. Otherwise, they are the target of continual observation and potential adjustment.

posted September 12, 2015 06:42 PM            

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posted September 12, 2015 07:14 PM            

My progressed chart (for the eve of 23 March 1985) done in the common secondary method:

... True progressions (approximate, with Moon position matched to second of arc):

Notice the Asc is near 29* earlier, and the MC near 31* earlier.

I know this is more than you asked for, but serves to illustrate how any given chart should not be taken literally.

So which do you use?

The true progressions are harder to calculate manually, but now that computers can do all this for us there is no reason not to use them. Yet I know of no such programming. Someone tell me if there is, and where I can get it.

I use the standard common secondary progressions, but know Asc/MC sign changes marked by them are not to be taken literally. These charts have proved useful, even in terms of the prog Asc/MC -- in relation to aspects to prog/natal planets and natal planets/points.