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Topic: Born 30 minutes before a fullmoon, are they still considered a full moon baby?
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Gabby
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posted September 16, 2015 03:45 PM
  
I have a friend who's baby was born 30 minutes before a full moon...is the baby still considered a fullmoon baby? I can't find anything on this on the net, does anyone know what is the bounds for being considered a full moon baby? Does the birth time have to be exact? IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted September 16, 2015 04:02 PM
If the two planets are in the signs opposed to one another I don't think it makes much of a difference. The energy is still thereIP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 16, 2015 04:45 PM
i would say no? a full moon is 135-180 degrees behind the sun, so if you're saying the moon falls 30 degrees before the full moon then that would make her signs opposite - i assume - but not make her a true full moon baby. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted September 16, 2015 04:59 PM
Sun sign opposite Moon sign = Full Moon baby.IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted September 16, 2015 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Sun sign opposite Moon sign = Full Moon baby.
Same thing I said, plus people live in different areas of the world so Full Moons can last for at the most 3 days IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted September 16, 2015 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Sun sign opposite Moon sign = Full Moon baby.
Whats the degree limit? IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 16, 2015 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Same thing I said, plus people live in different areas of the world so Full Moons can last for at the most 3 days
you think a full moon is sitting there for 3-4 solid days? the moon is waning and waxing and is only 100% illuminated, and only completely opposite the sun for a short period of time, not days on end. so some people are born on the waxing moon and some on the waning moon, but not all are born on a true full moon because it's only in true position for a short(er) period of time. it can take 100+ hours for the moon to go from waning to full to waxing but to your eye it looks full all the time, so it might look like we have a full moon for days sometimes, but we don't. sun opposite moon doesn't necessarily mean it's a full moon baby, because the moon isn't full the entire day and will, like a sunrise, occur at a specific time. moon phases are very basic astrology. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted September 16, 2015 05:32 PM
The Moon is 30 minutes before the exact opposition to the Sun. correct?That's actually a strong aspect because it's applying and 30 minutes is only half a degree. So to answer your question, YES 
edited to add: 30' added to a planet is half of a degree. 60' = 1*
When adding 30 min. to chart calculations, it changes the Natal Moon by a few minutes, not even close to a full degree.
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NYCdodger
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posted September 16, 2015 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
you think a full moon is sitting there for 3-4 solid days? the moon is waning and waxing and is only 100% illuminated, and only completely opposite the sun for a short period of time, not days on end. so some people are born on the waxing moon and some on the waning moon, but not all are born on a true full moon because it's only in true position for a short(er) period of time. it can take 100+ hours for the moon to go from waning to full to waxing but to your eye it looks full all the time, so it might look like we have a full moon for days sometimes, but we don't. sun opposite moon doesn't necessarily mean it's a full moon baby, because the moon isn't full the entire day and will, like a sunrise, occur at a specific time. moon phases are very basic astrology.
If the moon and sun are in opposite signs then the affect is still the same regardless of the degree. I said it can last up to 3 days because people live in different parts of the world. I don't concern myself with degrees as much as most people here because i have my own experiences IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 16, 2015 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
If the moon and sun are in opposite signs then the affect is still the same regardless of the degree. I said it can last up to 3 days because people live in different parts of the world. I don't concern myself with degrees as much as most people here because i have my own experiences
I tend to agree with that, but is there a degree limit for the opposition? Is it 10 degrees like it would be in a natal chart to be opposed? IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted September 16, 2015 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I tend to agree with that, but is there a degree limit for the opposition? Is it 10 degrees like it would be in a natal chart to be opposed?
When it comes to luminaries like the Sun and Moon I would PERSONALLY say no. But Lalalinda has already seemed to confirm that the baby is a Full Moon baby IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 16, 2015 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
The Moon is 30 minutes before the exact opposition to the Sun. correct?That's actually a strong aspect because it's applying and 30 minutes is only half a degree. So to answer your question, YES
Thank you Lalalinda!! Is there a degree limit you use with full moons? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 16, 2015 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
you think a full moon is sitting there for 3-4 solid days? the moon is waning and waxing and is only 100% illuminated, and only completely opposite the sun for a short period of time, not days on end. so some people are born on the waxing moon and some on the waning moon, but not all are born on a true full moon because it's only in true position for a short(er) period of time. it can take 100+ hours for the moon to go from waning to full to waxing but to your eye it looks full all the time, so it might look like we have a full moon for days sometimes, but we don't. sun opposite moon doesn't necessarily mean it's a full moon baby, because the moon isn't full the entire day and will, like a sunrise, occur at a specific time. moon phases are very basic astrology.
Thank you for your reply!! The aspecting moon would be more powerful, is that the waxing moon, correct?
How do you feel regarding the degree limit? IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 16, 2015 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Thank you for your reply!! The aspecting moon would be more powerful, is that the waxing moon, correct?
How do you feel regarding the degree limit?
is someone born at 0 degree Sag Asc the same as someone born at 29 Sag Asc? if you believe there is no difference in degrees of a sign, then there is no difference between any person born during a full moon cycle. if you subscribe to the idea that there are differences in sign degrees then the birth time during a full moon cycle matters a lot, because not everyone would be a full true moon baby. some would fall very early and some very late. the 'true' ones would be within the degrees closest to when the moon was completely opposite the sun, perhaps within 30 minutes of that occurrence. so it'd be a matter of birth time more than a range of degree because you'd have to know when the moon was completely opposite the sun on that day. but i get that we call them all full-moon babies regardless and usually just say that as well instead of getting into all of this :-) IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted September 16, 2015 07:00 PM
Do you think, Sun opposing Waxing Moon by 7 degrees is a powerful aspect, if Waxing Moon is a chart ruler?IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 16, 2015 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
is someone born at 0 degree Sag Asc the same as someone born at 29 Sag Asc? if you believe there is no difference in degrees of a sign, then there is no difference between any person born during a full moon cycle. if you subscribe to the idea that there are differences in sign degrees then the birth time during a full moon cycle matters a lot, because not everyone would be a full true moon baby. some would fall very early and some very late. the 'true' ones would be within the degrees closest to when the moon was completely opposite the sun, perhaps within 30 minutes of that occurrence. so it'd be a matter of birth time more than a range of degree because you'd have to know when the moon was completely opposite the sun on that day. but i get that we call them all full-moon babies regardless and usually just say that as well instead of getting into all of this :-)
I believe in degrees and aspects, not just signs. I was not asking that.
I was asking if the typical opposition degree of 10 applies here or would the degree limit be much less on something like this.
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astra7
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posted September 17, 2015 06:09 AM
I think so. Moon is still waxing till the point of fullmoon. Nobody comes into this world dead on fullmoon. IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted September 17, 2015 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Do you think, Sun opposing Waxing Moon by 7 degrees is a powerful aspect, if Waxing Moon is a chart ruler?
Waxing moon is unfortunate.
Never have that much of oomph in life. 
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Belage
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posted September 17, 2015 11:15 AM
30 minutes before the fullmoon is VERY CLOSE to exact aspect. I say it is a full moon baby. actually any baby born that day I would consider a full mooner. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 17, 2015 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
30 minutes before the fullmoon is VERY CLOSE to exact aspect. I say it is a full moon baby. actually any baby born that day I would consider a full mooner.
Very interesting! Thank you! I'd think that to because the aspect would be moon opposed Sun even if it's not exact it would be within the ten degree allowance. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted September 17, 2015 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by astra7:
I think so. Moon is still waxing till the point of fullmoon. Nobody comes into this world dead on fullmoon.
yes, they do. just as someone can be born just at the exact moment of sunrise someone can be born at the exact time of the full moon. it is not a full moon all day. the moon is only 100% fully illuminated at a specific time. so, if you happen to born at that time, you'd be a very true full-moon birth. some people are born the exact moment of sunrise, some the exact moment of the full moon. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted September 17, 2015 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
The Moon is 30 minutes before the exact opposition to the Sun. correct?[BOLD]That's actually a strong aspect because it's applying and 30 minutes is only half a degree. So to answer your question, YES [/BOLD]
edited to add: 30' added to a planet is half of a degree. 60' = 1*
When adding 30 min. to chart calculations, it changes the Natal Moon by a few minutes, not even close to a full degree.
Repeating for emphasis in case people miss it: 30 min is HALF A DEGREE. It's practically exact. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 17, 2015 12:16 PM
While I would also think of them as a fullmoon baby, if we are talking about lunar phases, though, a fullmoon-phase starts at 180°, not 179°. At least that is how it is defined in the books I`ve read on the lunar phases. (including Dane Rudhyars article on the lunar cycle, also Bernadette Brady in her book about progression and the one I have forgotten the name of. lol).
so while with an aspect of let`s say 179°30, I would of COURSE think of it as a soli-lunar opposition, the lunar phase is actually a gibbuous Moon.
Personally I wonder though if there might be a "sliding scale" instead of a "switch" between phases. But actually it seems like the beginning of the phase is treated like the 00 degrees of a sign (though of course some people like the cusp-theory in that regard, too).
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astra7
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posted September 17, 2015 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
yes, they do. just as someone can be born just at the exact moment of sunrise someone can be born at the exact time of the full moon. it is not a full moon all day. the moon is only 100% fully illuminated at a specific time. so, if you happen to born at that time, you'd be a very true full-moon birth. some people are born the exact moment of sunrise, some the exact moment of the full moon.
Well......
30 mins before must be 99.9999999% fullmoon. *rolleyes*
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starmoon
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posted September 17, 2015 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by astra7:
30 mins before must be 99.9999999% fullmoon. *rolleyes*[/B]
it's like telling someone who was born at 11:16 that their birth time is just like 11:20. it's 4 minutes difference, so who cares, right? you're obviously not a trained astrologer *rolleyes*
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