posted September 27, 2015 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I have Cybele conjunct the Sun and it explains a lot.

I never fit into any category but I was freaking wild and crazy and hung out with lots of traveling punks.. I was rebellious even against punk though, wouldn't dress to conform with that crowd either, at least not for long...

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Sounds just perfect to me!

posted September 27, 2015 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Try asteroid Cybele...

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I have it opposite Mars.

posted September 27, 2015 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Sylven:
I have it opposite Mars.

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posted September 27, 2015 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

Heehee... yep! That'd do it for me. Signs/houses?

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I have it in 4th Cappy, Mars in 10th Cancer. How would you interpret that?

Typicall full moon eclipse opposite my Uranus exactly tonight! I am all going nuts listening to punk now.

posted September 27, 2015 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by erickaf:
Has anyone here seen the damned new documentary?

I am dying to see it!

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posted September 27, 2015 03:55 PM            

My ex husband would be so jealous of you! he is a HUGE Stranglers fan, seen them many times (he is from Dublin) and, is especially fond of JJ Burnel.

posted September 27, 2015 04:10 PM            

"This is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I-U9dt_NBA Listen to the bass by Bad brains."

Thank you for posting this video! Some of these bands I've never heard and they sound great! Don't think I would put Ramones as #1 but that's a personal opinion. Was lucky enough to see Iggy Pop live.

posted September 27, 2015 04:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
My ex is a wanker but he has great taste in music!

"This is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I-U9dt_NBA Listen to the bass by Bad brains."

Thank you for posting this video! Some of these bands I've never heard and they sound great! Don't think I would put Ramones as #1 but that's a personal opinion. Was lucky enough to see Iggy Pop live.

Yes, 1968. When is your birthday?

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A wanker aye? That must be why you split up?
No, I wouldn't put Ramones 1st either.
Iggy live? Great! I wasn't a fan but I like the hits.

My chart is over at the 'post your picture and chart' thread. June 22nd. Yours?

posted September 27, 2015 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by erickaf:
Dave Vanian gives such a great explanation what punk is about

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I loved that interview!

Back when I mixed with them there were a lot of skinheads and punks. I found out later that skinheads and some white power movements were aggressively spreading at the time, and many tried to recruit kids on the streets (a guy, 20 IIRC, even tried to get me to leave with him to California where he'd supposedly take me to the HQ of WAR, or White Aryan Resistance, saying they'd take care of me) and since many of the disenfranchised and those alienated from society gravitated to the punk movement I guess that helps explain why their interacting and clashing was inevitable as people they knew and from the same background was setting up around them, and they were often polarized in many ways from the punks (though both had many factions, and interesting enough the skinhead factions didn't get along anywhere as well with their rivals as the punk factions despite that the skinheads and such claimed to share blood and honor while punks were very individualistic).

Especially given how how many of us didn't have much to lose anyway. I know some of them were runaways and homeless as well but I don't know how many. I do know that every school I ever been to wouldn't allow kids to dress like that in school, especially not the punks.

In retrospect I came to consider the punks and skinheads as "like the liberals and conservatives of disenfranchised (white) kids and young people who completely rejected society" though now that I think about it the grim time in the early 20th century in which people were lost was very similar that gave birth to the anarchists, nihilists, and many outrageous artistic movements (with anarchists and nihilists) like dada and also surrealism was actually more to do with the liberation of language. The view was that the poetic experience was the true fount of wisdom, liberating us from the confines of ordinary reason and discourse that they felt was a trap (perhaps what we'd call the Matrix today ) whereas their wild art thought it was a type of psychic channeling of the subconscious wisdom that could lead society to a non-repressive civilization rather than the one of continual war, poverty, and oppression.

Of course fascists of all stripes also flourished in that grim world, and they clashed with the anarchists and surrealists the same way I saw skinheads clash with punks (and vice versa) in the 90s. Granted, it was much more extreme and widespread back in the early 20th century than it was in the 90s (or even 70s), both how much worse society and the rejection was that would reshape the world as revolution spread throughout it.

So watching that interview about how punk came to be...yeah, that makes perfect sense.

posted September 28, 2015 08:47 AM            

Sylven - omg, you do not look 45!!!! So pretty!

Thanks! Actually that picture was of a about 5 years ago but it is a good one that shows all.

So you're a Scorp/Monkey!