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Topic: Why does pluto squares to personal planets make someone so creepy?
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Dreaminess unregistered
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posted September 27, 2015 12:22 PM
It brings out their obsessive, stalkerish creepy vibe so easily. I have sensed with people that i don`t even care that much for have been a bit creeped out by me bc i can be too "involved" or something i am not sure what it is but i can sense i can give out a creepy vibe sometimes. And what is the good side of pluto squares if their is any? IP: Logged |
NYCdodger Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2016
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posted September 27, 2015 12:27 PM
Only Pluto square I have is the square to my ASC and I don't think I'm creepy at all lol. I let things go pretty easily and I don't like chasing..People do say that I'm very straight-forward and compelling though, but that may also be because of my Lilith on my midheaven. According to my Pullen, I'm very Plutonian and Venusian (which trines in my Natal) so I can feel it almost instantly. Its best to just calm down and be aware of whats going on. Pluto is intense but mastering it makes you very well put together. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21405 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 27, 2015 12:29 PM
I think the answer to your question is in the question. They have Pluto squaring a personal planet. You find that creepy. What more needs to be said? As for this question: "And what is the good side of pluto squares if their is any?" Well to give an example, I have sun square Pluto. This makes me an extreme perfectionist. It's very hard for me to please myself. One area where it's most noticeable is in my drawings. People see me as artistic, even though I hate drawing, because it's such a nerve-wracking struggle. I feel like if it's not perfect, I'm just a failure. That mentality sucks, but it has driven some good work (according to others' standards.) IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 2255 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 12:37 PM
Im a creeper and im proud. Some people might be able to give specifics, but generally speaking, one's own chart, in combination with synastry will determine their comfort with different types of energy. I never bothered to consider HOW Plutonian i am, but Pluto hits every one of my personal planets, squaring two, with the exception of my moon. I've noticed that my Pluto taking it easy in synastry, their Pluto going hard, makes it so i can be as nuts as i want to be without them running away. And for me to stay interested Pluto needs to aspect their personals. I like Sun/Pluto and Mars/Pluto in the other person natally.IP: Logged |
Dreaminess unregistered
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posted September 27, 2015 12:53 PM
I am also a creeper but only with people i care for and mostly behind closed doors. What i dont get is why people i dont even care for have been slightly creeped out by me when i have acted as normal as one could be. Is it a certain vibe we just give out that people just pick up on? IP: Logged |
NYCdodger Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2016
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posted September 27, 2015 01:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaminess: I am also a creeper but only with people i care for and mostly behind closed doors. What i dont get is why people i dont even care for have been slightly creeped out by me when i have acted as normal as one could be. Is it a certain vibe we just give out that people just pick up on?
Yes. Some can't handle it IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 2255 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:13 PM
It means you're Pluto is showing. I've always been somewhat of an exhibitionist, Venus SQUARE Pluto, but ive learned its easiest to save that part of me for private interactions. This is something Scorpios get, but Plutonians might need to learn. And even when you think you're just being yourself and not really invested in the other person or their reaction to you, you need to remember Pluto isn't something you do. Its something you are. Pay attention to what it is you do around people. A look from Pluto is so much more than a look. Be aware that almost everything you do, especially Pluto Venus body language, affects other people. I dont think i need to remind you not to get extreme and insecure...just pay attention to yourself, and other people, and then decide if you want to modify...OR NOT. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 2255 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 01:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
And even when you think you're just being yourself and not really invested in the other person or their reaction to you, you need to remember Pluto isn't something you do. Its something you are. Pay attention to what it is you do around people. A look from Pluto is so much more than a look. Be aware that almost everything you do, especially Pluto Venus body language, affects other people. I dont think i need to remind you not to get extreme and insecure...just pay attention to yourself, and other people, and then decide if you want to modify...OR NOT.
Another thing...Pluto can make us a LITTLE narcissistic. When we think all eyes are on us, no one really gives a **** . IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1320 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 27, 2015 02:30 PM
With Pluto square Mars, I think people are sometimes a little iffy about my tendency to seriously suggest doing dangerous things. I feel like newer people think 'low key this girl has issues' with violence or sociopathic tendencies. But some people like it. It's not that I want to cause harm, I just like seeing how far I can go. See how creepy I sound already? >.> IP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 533 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 27, 2015 05:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: It means you're Pluto is showing. I've always been somewhat of an exhibitionist, Venus SQUARE Pluto, but ive learned its easiest to save that part of me for private interactions. This is something Scorpios get, but Plutonians might need to learn. And even when you think you're just being yourself and not really invested in the other person or their reaction to you, you need to remember Pluto isn't something you do. Its something you are. Pay attention to what it is you do around people. A look from Pluto is so much more than a look. Be aware that almost everything you do, especially Pluto Venus body language, affects other people. I dont think i need to remind you not to get extreme and insecure...just pay attention to yourself, and other people, and then decide if you want to modify...OR NOT.
Whoa. You hit the nail on the head. That exact thing has caused me problems. I have my Pluto-Moon conjunction tightly square my Sun-Venus conjunction, and my husband has lectured me over and over about some "vibe" I give off that I honestly just cannot see or understand. There have been so many times when we were around male friends of his and he gets so upset with me. Afterward, I'll try to figure out what he's mad about, and he'll blow me away with things like, "Dammit, why did you keep looking at him that way?! You were completely undressing him with your eyes the whole time." He'll say, "Grief, do have to give guys bedroom eyes all the time?!" Stuff like that. I honestly just get perplexed, because it is NEVER intentional. I don't even find ANY of his friends attractive. I mean, they're attractive guys in general, but they don't look as good to me as my husband does, and they don't ring my bell in any way. I sure as heck am not making bedroom eyes at them or undressing them with my eyes. He swears I do it, though. So, I just chalk it up to my Pluto placements giving off some "vibe" or "aura" I don't intentionally try to give off. Of course, my husband has a Scorpio Sun-Venus-Mars conjunction, so maybe he just sees things that aren't there and gets jealous for no reason. I'm not sure.
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Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 533 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 27, 2015 05:19 PM
Oh, I forgot to add... one of the good traits about Pluto square a personal planet is our unrelenting desire. If you touch our soul, then we will march through the fires of hell for you and back again.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21405 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted September 27, 2015 05:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: When we think all eyes are on us, no one really gives a **** .
Awwww...maybe they do! You cannot destroy our Leo ASC hopes, just like that! IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 06:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaminess: And what is the good side of pluto squares if their is any?
Well you will never have the wool pulled over your eyes. You pretty much have eyes that see underground, in the back alley, in the backroom, through the vents, through facades, through the layers of concrete. Pluto squares uproot things to the bare core and potentially transforms you and the people around you in a secret fashion -- no one sees these workings, but you and people in the vicinity sure feel them. Squares are not nice but they are positive in a drill sergeant way, Pluto squares are strengthening things/planets within you that you are ignoring on a deep level. Like Glenn Close said in Fatal Attraction "You won't answer my calls, you change your number. I mean, I'm not gonna be ignored, Dan!" I also like this one "This is not gonna stop. It keeps going on and on." that is the best Pluto square quote ever. IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 485 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 27, 2015 07:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Comatoes: Well you will never have the wool pulled over your eyes. You pretty much have eyes that see underground, in the back alley, in the backroom, through the vents, through facades, through the layers of concrete. Pluto squares uproot things to the bare core and potentially transforms you and the people around you in a secret fashion -- no one sees these workings, but you and people in the vicinity sure feel them... "
I agree. I have Pluto square ascendant, sun, mercury, venus, saturn & Pluto sextile Mars / trine Moon... Yeah a lot of Pluto squares to personal planets make you mysterious & intimidating to most people. I am not sure if creepy is the right word... It's just they can not decode you, they can't get the full picture of you and what remains unknown to them causes distrust - pluto square ascendant I can spot a lie so easily and you'll see it in my eyes and in my broken smile... I can catch passing thoughts that don't carry a weight but still they can hurt me or confuse me. Cause me to loose trust - mercury square pluto And yes I am a perfectionist. If it's not going to be perfect, I don't bother doing it. This attitude has caused doing very little and lacking fulfillment... sun square pluto Obsessive in love but never a stalker. If you don't call, I'll never call. When I was younger I was also a bit exhibitionalist.. But not anymore.. still people are attracted to me sexualy. venus square pluto on the other hand, you can turn all these traits into positive. also, people always think you're a force to be reckoned with even when you're feeling very insecure and vulnerable inside. but a big bur sometimes you just need people to feel your vulnerability and act accordingly... and yeah I have a very strong character, emotionaly very very strong. My Jupiter sextiles modifies my Pluto squares. And eases the pain of my Saturn oppositions ( asc, venus, mercury )..Thank God for my Jupiter aspects. Otherwise I think I would not be able to survive the dark teatimes of my soul IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 830 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 27, 2015 10:07 PM
Eh, I have pluto square moon. The only time I get obsessive is when seeking revenge. I have never stalked someone. However, I do attract people who stalk and obsess over me for reasons I will never understand.IP: Logged |
yota13 Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 27, 2015 11:24 PM
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bansheequeen unregistered
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posted September 28, 2015 02:59 AM
Synastry or natal? In synastry it might give that predatory feeling esp if you dont like the person back. If it's their natal, plutonic people can come on like a steamroller if they get your in their sights and if it's unwanted it can be very creepy. But if you like them back then it can be very nice to be the object of their obsession. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4108 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 28, 2015 04:08 AM
I am not a creepster but find that I attract attention from them a lot. I have a hard time hiding from other people's issues, emotions and vampire-agendas :-/I just really want to be left alone. I have Pluto sq Sun, Moon and Mercury. IP: Logged |
Comatoes Knowflake Posts: 441 From: Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 28, 2015 05:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by sis: I agree. I have Pluto square ascendant, sun, mercury, venus, saturn & Pluto sextile Mars / trine Moon... and yeah I have a very strong character, emotionaly very very strong.
I definitely believe it! Wow, you must be chosen to master Pluto energy to the highest order. Really, really impressive.
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Geminiyoungster Knowflake Posts: 546 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted September 28, 2015 05:44 AM
I don't know if I come off creppy, but I have noticed that ppl think I'm intimidating. However, not to bring the race card up, but I am black so that could be it. I do noticed that I attract ppl that don't like for no reason and I have a Libra rising. If I get attacked they never do it alone. I've also in the past have had ppl become obsessed with me in a way without trying. I have a moon square Pluto at a really tight orb, probably the most tighest of them all, haha..IP: Logged |
HadesFish unregistered
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posted September 29, 2015 09:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: Im a creeper and im proud. Some people might be able to give specifics, but generally speaking, one's own chart, in combination with synastry will determine their comfort with different types of energy. I never bothered to consider HOW Plutonian i am, but Pluto hits every one of my personal planets, squaring two, with the exception of my moon. I've noticed that my Pluto taking it easy in synastry, their Pluto going hard, makes it so i can be as nuts as i want to be without them running away. And for me to stay interested Pluto needs to aspect their personals. I like Sun/Pluto and Mars/Pluto in the other person natally.
The first sentence is quite deep. ------------------ All that glitters is not Gold. IP: Logged |
Sylven Knowflake Posts: 690 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2014
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posted September 30, 2015 01:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Awwww...maybe they do!You cannot destroy our Leo ASC hopes, just like that!
Oh YES they dó look at us! All of them!
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sis Knowflake Posts: 485 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 30, 2015 06:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Comatoes: I definitely believe it! Wow, you must be chosen to master Pluto energy to the highest order. Really, really impressive.
I am not sure if I am mastering the Pluto energy. Not yet, not complete... I have been dealing with trs Pluto conjunctions to my 1st hs stellium ( activating the natal squares ) for the last 4 years. It was not easy, it is not easy. One more year to go... once the hard trs. Pluto aspects are over, hopefully I will be sailing full power ahead... Only by then I can be impressed with myself IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70434 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 30, 2015 06:53 PM
Hidden things make people creepy like if there is a person who is all "fake smiles" and "fake goodness" I know someone like that who drives me crazy lol Pluto Squares could do this because they are a locked in kind of energy and Pluto is super powerful You want him to have DIRECT expression. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 6378 From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street.. Registered: May 2009
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posted September 30, 2015 07:20 PM
Heheh, creepers represent! I have pluto sq my sun and venus. My boyfriend has it sq his moon. First time we met, no words for 15 min. I think we were scanning each other! IP: Logged |