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Plutonian_Gal8
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posted September 29, 2015 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just recalling something about my former boyfriend - we've been occasionally reflecting back on our first rodeo with love years ago. And he said this to me one day and was very serious (of course) about it:


"You don't make me feel like a man...you clearly need and want things and I'm right here to take care of that...but you just do your own thing"


Anyone that can relate, willing to share what aspects stir the "need" to provide for a significant other? Natal or in synastry, with particular ppl?

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posted September 29, 2015 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. For some reason, I feel like soft aspects between Neptune and the Moon.

I guess it kind of depends.. Because, to me, there are a few different things that may cause someone to desire to "spoil" their partner.. For some, it can be somewhat of an indirect result of extreme possessiveness.. Or, somewhat of a control thing where they want their partner to DEPEND on them..

Then, instead of that, the desire could be there just because they want to give the world to their lover.. Regardless of the amount of dependence..

One seems much more Plutonian.. And, maybe Martian.. While the other seems a bit more Lunar, Venusian (is that the word for it?) or Neptunian..

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posted September 29, 2015 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wondering     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct Venus in synastry can definitely make the Pluto feel that way towards Venus.

I agree with the poster above though.. Plutonian men don't mind spoiling those they love

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posted September 29, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's an interesting analysis. We have a Moon/Neptune DW in soft aspects actually. And his Moon is in my 2nd house. It makes sense.

His Pluto trines my Sun in 2nd house. These things should've been kinda obvious to me, I'm surprised I couldn't pull that out easily. Smh

Thank you!!


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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Hmm.. For some reason, I feel like soft aspects between Neptune and the Moon.

I guess it kind of depends.. Because, to me, there are a few different things that may cause someone to desire to "spoil" their partner.. For some, it can be somewhat of an indirect result of extreme possessiveness.. Or, somewhat of a control thing where they want their partner to DEPEND on them..

Then, instead of that, the desire could be there just because they want to give the world to their lover.. Regardless of the amount of dependence..

One seems much more Plutonian.. And, maybe Martian.. While the other seems a bit more Lunar, Venusian (is that the word for it?) or Neptunian..


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posted September 29, 2015 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another great point! I'm looking to see how many planets aspects his Pluto - he is more Plutonian than I thought! I always pinned him as more Venusian (which is equally relative right?) Ok now I know to expect this energy from these aspects. Thank you!!


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Originally posted by Wondering:
Pluto conjunct Venus in synastry can definitely make the Pluto feel that way towards Venus.

I agree with the poster above though.. Plutonian men don't mind spoiling those they love


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posted September 29, 2015 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True love wants to spoil you regardless of sign.

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posted September 29, 2015 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
True love wants to spoil you regardless of sign.

Yeah, go tell that to Aqua

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posted September 30, 2015 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
True love wants to spoil you regardless of sign.

Agreed

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posted September 30, 2015 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by maira:
Yeah, go tell that to Aqua

you havent met the right aqua lol

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posted September 30, 2015 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least he doesn't expect you to do everything for him.

Though I don't think that's restricted to partners. Like my BFF was trying to get me a wired mouse for my computer as I hated wireless, and a co-worker said he'd be happy to since many were being shipped away (and replaced). But he got her a wireless and says "trust me, this is so much better than wired." He was offended that we wouldn't take his word for it and seemed to assume that as women we didn't know what we wanted. (Men also don't like it when she gives them computer advice, though they don't mind getting it from other men which is why I think they feel their manhood is threatened in cases like that.)

Ideally, men and women who are close "spoil each other" without costing each other dignity in doing so. I could see a guy feeling a loss of dignity if she spoiled him but never allowed him to return the favor (though I know not every guy would mind that arrangement, looking at you Taurus moon! )

Astrologically, I'd guess Capricorn would exacerbate that. But not Aries unless you were obviously so much better at it than him (at least the "manly" stuff, and maybe if you're a better cook should he be a chef).

This assumes material assistance (home repairs, buying things for them, etc) rather than emotional comfort and things like taking care of someone while they're sick. If the latter then maybe Cancer would be that way...I did know one Cancer man that way but he was born back in the 50s so that may be just how he was raised more than his Cancer sun (and other placements)...and he actually came to resent the women he spoiled (in every way, from monetary to emotionally to erotically, buying the food and preparing it for her, etc), though he couldn't seem to stop himself from doing so...and it drew in women who were willing to exploit that (I loathed his last wife with a passion who obviously saw him as nothing more than a utilitarian resource than as an actual person with needs of his own).

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posted September 30, 2015 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Wondering:
Pluto conjunct Venus in synastry can definitely make the Pluto feel that way towards Venus.

I agree with the poster above though.. Plutonian men don't mind spoiling those they love


I guess it would follow then that Plutonian people don't mind doing so? I'm very Plutonian and I sure can treat people really nice... wonder why that is? How did you discover that?

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posted September 30, 2015 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

In synastry, I would guess that there would be a strong Mars influence on the other chart, right? Mars being the more masculine energy to protect, 'be the man' etc?

Connecting to 4th house of the woman's chart, maybe...

Idk, assigning roles in this stuff is always trickier for me to see.

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posted September 30, 2015 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
True love wants to spoil you regardless of sign.

Nice!

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posted September 30, 2015 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well allow me to properly emphasize that in my context, he felt less of a man (not needed or appreciated) and thus it rubbed him wrong. My independence and agenda of being responsible was overshadowed by his disappointment with my NOT sticking my hand out/opening my mouth to ASK of him.


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True love wants to spoil you regardless of sign.

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posted September 30, 2015 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
Well allow me to properly emphasize that in my context, he felt less of a man (not needed or appreciated) and thus it rubbed him wrong. My independence and agenda of being responsible was overshadowed by his disappointment with my NOT sticking my hand out/opening my mouth to ASK of him.


Yeah. It sounds like he didn't have a true desire to spoil, but spoil you to get positive attention and to feel needed because he really felt insecure. That's what I gather from that.
This is all just my honest opinion.

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posted September 30, 2015 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like any man who really loves and cares for you would want to spoil you. My three most serious relationships, including my current one, have all spoiled me. Two of them are Venus in Scorpio and one was Venus in Leo. I know Venus in Leo loves to spoil and be spoiled!

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posted September 30, 2015 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Leo, Leo, Leo (Mars, Venus, Sun)- he loves the way he wants to be loved.

Capricorn (Sun, Venus) because he wants to share what he loves which is a sense of security and comfort...Cappy combined with softer Pisces (Sun), who loves to serve, or Cancer (Sun, Venus) who takes care of what he thinks he owns.

I chose the placements I know, and didn't include placements I don't have experience with.

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posted September 30, 2015 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I think you summed it up much more concisely. It does sound like the post should be more about insecurities; believing that providing financially/materialistically is validation on being loved and appreciated. And because you shined a light on that very fact, it appears that may just be his Venus sq Jupiter hitting my 2H & 5H. I'm still studying the synastry differently right at this moment.


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Yeah. It sounds like he didn't have a true desire to spoil, but spoil you to get positive attention and to feel needed because he really felt insecure. That's what I gather from that.
This is all just my honest opinion.


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posted September 30, 2015 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frankie2912


Yeah it's clear I should've elaborated and fixated on guys who feel very inclined to spoil you with tangibles - which isn't a bad thing per se obviously. BUT it intrigues me to see men who are bothered by women who don't "float on cloud 9" by such gestures. Speaking for self I don't drop hints or beam with pride about roses, gifts on Valentine's Day or being treated to the Spa. I'm a boring gal, what can I say!? That doesn't mean I don't like certain "things" though - but I'm more practical (Capricorn Venus) So with my ex, he needed validation via buying me things..things that are of small impressions for my liking. And so what I'm gathering from yours and others' responses is, it's a natal thing first and foremost. And then yeah, the slight clash with synastry like most questions posed on differences and similarities.

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posted September 30, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This would be taurus/cancer placement BIG time. They want to spoil you all over the place, especially the males.
Taurus will spoil you with the things you love, and cancer will just spoil you with love, but also material stuff (you don't need, this is typically cancers)

All the cancer or taurus men I've dated, they were BIG spoilers. I'm just not so much into that myself. I'm very cancerian and I prefer to spoil my boyfriend with LOVE haha. Like in kissing and hugging and bringing candy/food lol.

I think libra can be somewhat the same... maybe it's a venusian thing to spoil people? My boyfriend is libra sun and he doesn't got any money and is broke, but he always brings me what I need(cheap stuff though).

The most greedy signs however is definitely scorpio/capricorn. They're not like that, although I think that at least capricorn could buy you expensive stuff once in a while to really show how much they care??? Anyways I don't really got an idea, cause I've never really dated a capricorn hmmm...

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posted September 30, 2015 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
[B] I could see a guy feeling a loss of dignity if she spoiled him but never allowed him to return the favor

• Yeah I couldn't agree more. I measured up by spoiling him with fun, romance and affections like a piece of cake! Sun in his 5th. No he didn't require tangibles from me at all, yet for him it happens to be how he shows love and appreciation. My Cap Venus pretty much impeded recognizing this importance for him.

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Astrologically, I'd guess Capricorn would exacerbate that.


Yeahhhhh. That's my Goat for sure! His sun conjuncts my Jupiter/Neptune in the 1st. He's a 5th house Aqua Moon/Venus conjunct my Sun. Ehh, kinda cute lol

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posted September 30, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[B]This would be taurus/cancer placement BIG time. They want to spoil you all over the place, especially the males.

His busy, indulgent Taurus Jupiter sits nicely in his 8th. But uhhh, squares my cool Aquarius Sun. Our synastry is amusing now that I'm very focused in it.


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I think libra can be somewhat the same... maybe it's a venusian thing to spoil people?

His chart ruler! Not to mention the Moon/Venus conjunction. His chart ruler is heavily aspected. Speaks to the contrast of my Saturn weighted chart - not easy to embrace Venusian love. Not at all. Can't neglect to hide the wound of Chiron in my 5th (Taurus) So yeah *gasp* I'm naturally romantically challenged but frankly his benefic planet in my 5th is a GOOD thing. We're both interestingly a lot a like when you dig into the natals and synastry.

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posted October 02, 2015 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plutonian_Gal8:
I was just recalling something about my former boyfriend - we've been occasionally reflecting back on our first rodeo with love years ago. And he said this to me one day and was very serious (of course) about it:


[b] "You don't make me feel like a man...you clearly need and want things and I'm right here to take care of that...but you just do your own thing"


Anyone that can relate, willing to share what aspects stir the "need" to provide for a significant other? Natal or in synastry, with particular ppl?[/B]


It's simply called being a "man." Men feel emasculated when their wife/girlfriend does not need them. I'm not saying they want a woman to be completely dependent on them for every little thing, but they want to feel needed on occasion. I've had many men of all ages tell me this. I'm very independent and I'm used to handling everything on my own. This frustrates any man I date because they feel like I don't need them. They want to see some vulnerability.

One of my guy friends even told me that if his girlfriend were independent, then he would feel comfortable leaving her. Since he felt like she couldn't handle running her life without him, he felt like he had to stay.

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posted October 02, 2015 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian_Gal8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great perspective! Natural nuts and bolts of most men.

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It's simply called being a "man." Men feel emasculated when their wife/girlfriend does not need them. I'm not saying they want a woman to be completely dependent on them for every little thing, but they want to feel needed on occasion. I've had many men of all ages tell me this. I'm very independent and I'm used to handling everything on my own. This frustrates any man I date because they feel like I don't need them. They want to see some vulnerability.

One of my guy friends even told me that if his girlfriend were independent, then he would feel comfortable leaving her. Since he felt like she couldn't handle running her life without him, he felt like he had to stay.


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posted October 02, 2015 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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One of my guy friends even told me that if his girlfriend were independent, then he would feel comfortable leaving her. Since he felt like she couldn't handle running her life without him, he felt like he had to stay.


Protect me from such men, Xenu.

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