posted October 04, 2015 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Hmmm.. Actually, I would say that could be a bit Plutonian..

However... I do feel a certain amount of Neptunian energy in relation to this..

I feel sometimes Neptunian/Piscean people may be a bit slower at really revealing everything they are to a person, because of a slight subconscious fear that they may be misunderstood.. (In contrast to Pluto, who chooses to stay hidden in fear of vulnerability..)

However.. I feel like someone who is heavily Neptunian could be that friend who like.. Never says random words in another language, but then you randomly see them hold a brief, fluent conversation in another language with someone. xD.. Neptune DOES do things behind the scenes to a certain degree.. And, I know Neptune is usually not exactly the type to brag.. So.. It's kind of like.. "Ok, I'm not going to fully present this skill, until I am put into a situation where I have to" So.. to me.. I feel like Neptune chooses to keep things hidden, in order not to feel as if they are 'showing off' until they are actually put into a situation where they feel entitled to do so..

However, I think you mentioned you have a Uranus-Sun aspect.. Correct? Uranus DOES like to take people off guard sometimes. Uranus likes shocking people.

But yeah.. The "I would rather keep it hidden until I absolutely need to" Seems kinda Neptunian, in its own way. However.. Pluto and Uranus also come to mind..

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I agree. Neptune is so passive they might not "show off" until they are in the perfect situation to. And their intuition guides them too.

My experience with pisces is that they always inadvertently reveal a lot. Even when they try to lie, somehow they give it away. I really believe that this is why pisces got the reputation for being liars.... for the sole reason that they are so easily caught!

I dont know... what sign likes to set a trap??? I am thinking maybe a "vulnerable" ascendant with a "powerful" sun, moon or mars. Like a virgo asc with scorpio moon. Likes to look unassuming while drawing people into a trap.

posted October 04, 2015 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by bananaz:
What sign?

I don't know if Neptune likes to "attack". I don't feel it's associated with that energy. The 12th house is all about serving, goodwill, healing, undoing of the self type of energy. It's not a vengeful placement. That's more of a Martian/ Plutonian energy.

I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter in the 12th house/ Pisces. Neptune is conjunct my midheaven. Personally, I would sooner help another succeed than try to outdo them or have them think they've underestimated me. What other people think of me isn't important, and I find this is common for people who have a lot of Pisces placements. They don't like competition (which is possibly why so many are self-employed). As for knowledge, I'd rather teach than try to hide any information I have.

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posted October 04, 2015 04:02 PM            

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posted October 04, 2015 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
This is what I'm picturing, thanks to this thread:

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posted October 04, 2015 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:

Its in libra. I don`t find pisces/neptunians to be always as innocent as you describe them tbh. I have dealt with tons of people with neptune/pisces energy and belive me they do have their tricks and they can be real good at it too. The innocent thingy can work wonders for them sometimes and they know it. Plenty of times i have seen them use helplessness and kindness to manipulate to get what they want. They can be very competitive in a non-obvious way. Its like they think the best way to "win" is when no one is watching. It all happens behind the "scenes".

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I'm curious what you'd think of "Mr. Pisces." While I studied his chart at the time (back when we were both 19) I don't have it now and can only recall it from memory. I'm pretty sure to positive that he had Sun, merc, Venus, and Mars in 1H Pisces, and Sag moon, Uranus, Neptune (and, of course, 8H Libra Pluto on Scorpio cusp). I have a Sag stellium myself that includes his 3 placements (I'm not certain about his moon) a Libra stellium that includes Pluto (his Pluto and mine lining up about perfect), and my 8H is Pisces...it's possible this created an unusual dynamic between me and him as opposed to how he was with other people, IDK.

Though after a terrible experience of letting a guy live with me in which I swore to never let it happen again, there was something cute (not so much in I wanted him and I also wondered at first if he might be gay--though we did end up playing some odd sex games later) and fun about him that I let him move in after he lost his job and place to live...and I even spoiled him rotten for as long as I was able to. Other women couldn't understand why I let him live there when he didn't pay anything (and I wasn't rich so it was a struggle carrying him as well) but he was helpful with household chores, ran errands for me, and (most of all), he could make me laugh to tears (all of which I consider having monetary value, though inconvenient he didn't have cash at times, and eventually I had to bow to the economic realities, though had his mom refused to take him I'd have found a way to make it work and I expect my life would be very different today). Because of this, I don't consider him having taken advantage of me to this day.

In contrast, I tend to find guys who take advantage or at least expect things that he did not, from my dad to...well, plenty of guys. Heck, plenty of guys consider the term "player" (being able to manipulate women into bed) as a compliment.

And there are the tricks (one guy told me these were tricks, that he was in a conversation where guys traded these back and forth between them, and I've also commiserated with other women who have had these tricks used on them) like say one will wait until I've just cleaned the kitchen (even if it's at night) to then say he's going to make pancakes. I'll shrug (at least until I learned how this typically plays out) and then he pretends to be confused about using eggs & milk and implying he's about to turn the kitchen into a gooey mess (of course he lets me know rather than attempting the feat, after all the point is manipulating me into doing it for him and making me think it's my own idea) until I make them for him (resisting the urge to put a cup of cayenne into the mix) while wondering how this idiot has the nerve to tell blonde jokes or how women can't use computers (even if I'm better at using them than he is)...and after serving him pancakes he asks me to get him a glass of milk, too, since I'm up anyway and he wants to eat the pancakes while they're still hot.