posted October 12, 2015 04:23 AM            

Power is now destroyed and born anew. The world as we know will change at the hands of the Elite. This is why the world is becoming more dark, more sinister. Slowly but steady (as Pluto operates) Nothing positive has happened on the Earth since 2008 (when Pluto entered Cap)

posted October 12, 2015 06:54 AM            

I'm heavy with the Saturn influence and I'm rather afraid of what the world will be like, by the time Pluto enters Aquarius. To me, it seems like existing power is ineffective and weak as it is, and the ones taking over are the worst sort for the job.

posted October 12, 2015 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Pluto is in Capricorn.

Power is now destroyed and born anew. The world as we know will change at the hands of the Elite. This is why the world is becoming more dark, more sinister. Slowly but steady (as Pluto operates) Nothing positive has happened on the Earth since 2008 (when Pluto entered Cap)

I may be venting but people need to know that this place is out to get you now music is dying, film is dying, even sports is dying, anything and everything we can ever think about is being manipulated to distract us that we're being screwed by the government. The dollar is hurting everyone. The weak will die now. It looks like it will be like this until 2023...I hope we can all survive, I love you everyone and had to get this off my chest. If we come together and actually try to change the world we can do some serious damage. Everyone has a job to do on this Earth, do not let this world destroy you. It will try it's hardest

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posted October 12, 2015 10:25 AM            

My youngest, age 5, has Pluto conjunct NN in Capricorn. Here's a conversation we had a few weeks ago.

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Him: Do you remember what I want for my birthday?

Me: An inflatable house.

Him: Annnnnnd?

Me: And a car you can actually drive.

Him: And?!

Me: And...um....robots to take care of the car and house?

Him: No.

Me: Well what do you want?

Him: A city!

Me: Inflatable city?

Him: A REAL CITY.

Me: Okayyyyy

Him: It stretches from here to Africa.

Me: Right....

Him: Actually, cancel that. I want the whole planet.

Me: Not sure if I can afford it. But hey... ...would you want a bow on top?

Him: No. But don't worry, I will share the planet with you.

(He has Ceres conjunct his NN-Pluto. )

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posted October 12, 2015 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well, come to think of it...

My youngest, age 5, has Pluto conjunct NN in Capricorn. Here's a conversation we had a few weeks ago.

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Him: Do you remember what I want for my birthday?

Me: An inflatable house.

Him: Annnnnnd?

Me: And a car you can actually drive.

Him: And?!

Me: And...um....robots to take care of the car and house?

Him: No.

Me: Well what do you want?

Him: A city!

Me: Inflatable city?

Him: A REAL CITY.

Me: Okayyyyy

Him: It stretches from here to Africa.

Me: Right....

Him: Actually, cancel that. I want the whole planet.

Me: Not sure if I can afford it. But hey... ...would you want a bow on top?

Him: No. But don't worry, I will share the planet with you.

(He has Ceres conjunct his NN-Pluto. )

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Anyway, yes I do see the power-mongering tendencies here.

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posted October 12, 2015 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by asteroidology:
Power destroyed and born anew sounds wonderful since most of our power systems are corrupt. I feel like part of my job in life is to help break down old systems, so I'm really enjoying this placement of Pluto.

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posted October 12, 2015 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
LOL if my child said something like that I would have to correct them. Why do you have to own the whole world? What about the other people?

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I already know why he needs the whole world. To have access to all the toy stores.

Seriously though...would you be concerned if your child wanted to be President? Or President of the UN?

I grew up listening to my Aries brothers reciting the theme to this modest TV show...

Megalomania, 80's style.

posted October 12, 2015 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I already know why he needs the whole world. To have access to all the toy stores.

Seriously though...would you be concerned if your child wanted to be President? Or President of the UN?

I grew up listening to my Aries brothers reciting the theme to this modest TV show...

Megalomania, 80's style.

I think all children dream big...it's not necessarily bad...you just have to listen and see where they are going with it.

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Agreed

posted October 12, 2015 09:20 PM            

Some famous people with Pluto in Capricorn:

Jane Austen
Ludwig van Beethoven
Friedrich Hegel
William Joseph Turner (painter)
Mademoiselle Lenormand
Walter Scott
John Quincy Adams
William Wordsworth
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Eli Whitney
Johnny Appleseed
Meriweather Lewis

Along with some fighters: Napoleon, Ivan the Terrible, William the Conquerer.

Still I think it's worth pointing out that Capricorn is about taking things to extremes, whether it's art, exploration, science or war. It's not just war...but ambition in all its forms.

posted October 13, 2015 01:21 AM            

If it were me who was trying to consolidate the world into submission, I'd do it through manipulation/covert means etc. Making them "think" that the world would be better if it were governed by one person.

For such an idea to proceed with absolute consistency, people would have to internalize it and make it their own.

The ultimate vehicle for this is the subconscious; altering people's belief systems or at-least making large institutions of belief systems subjugate, promote or dedicate themselves to this "evolutionary" idea.

For such a thing to happen, Neptune/Pisces has to be involved. The conditions(negatively) would be ripe for mass hypnosis, delusion and deception.

If anything, things seem to be falling apart with Pluto in Cap.

Institutions, corporations, "fat" cats and the BIG people on top, are being exposed for good or ill(as are their underlying intentions).

So this has given us a sense of suspicion about those in power as we look for integrity that much more now than ever.

Even Obama's Neptune Sun, Neptune/Mercury square that used to provide so much inspiration and hope, is being picked at now.

Many conspiracy theories have come to the table; is he the antichrist? Is he a reptoid in human form? Is he really gay and married to a transsexual(Michelle/"Michael")?

The world is not ready to be "fooled" right now. Not unless they decide to do it by force?

That means many people will be openly "culled" in a clear and indisputable fashion in the pursuit of the goal.

And that is not really what they want to do. As who will serve them when all that has been accomplished?

And there is also the issue of karma and universal laws getting in the way.

My strategy;Make them believe so vehemently in an oppressive idea that they think "freedom" is anything that conforms them to that idea.

That would be my strategy. And Neptune/Pisces is most ripe for that.

posted October 13, 2015 09:01 AM            

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My strategy;Make them believe so vehemently in an oppressive idea that they think "freedom" is anything that conforms them to that idea.

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Also, when you look at how the media is controlled by the Power and not the people, you see how we are just groping around in the dark, trying to figure out what's happening....yet, most people that I've met don't care. They know the media is controlled, and yet, they still trust the news as being factual and pertinent...while the most significant changes are being drafted and executed either behind closed doors, or in plain sight, but not given attention by the media.

The US Presidential election is such a complete joke to me. Not only because of rampant vote fraud, but it just doesn't matter...the Constitutional form of government is over, Congress is moving through empty rituals of "democracy" now. Corporations have the bulk of control.

posted October 13, 2015 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well said as always, Aries 23.

Also, when you look at how the media is controlled by the Power and not the people, you see how we are just groping around in the dark, trying to figure out what's happening....yet, most people that I've met don't care. They know the media is controlled, and yet, they still trust the news as being factual and pertinent...while the most significant changes are being drafted and executed either behind closed doors, or in plain sight, but not given attention by the media.

The US Presidential election is such a complete joke to me. Not only because of rampant vote fraud, but it just doesn't matter...the Constitutional form of government is over, Congress is moving through empty rituals of "democracy" now. Corporations have the bulk of control.

Meh, I'm ranting.

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posted October 13, 2015 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I understand the frustration with not being able to "help" what is going on in the world today. Almost feeling like a passenger that is behind the screen-just watching things unfold

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It's THAT mentality which will make NWO come to fruition! There's no need to be a spectator to the BS! Why do people always act so helpless?? If we had more people and people of power that spoke out about these events happening we'd have such SUCH a better world!

But instead everyone thinks of themselves as a useless pawn incapable of making any change in society. Like it or not the Government/Powers That Be are doing more damage than you think. They are already in your subconscious, making you think we're powerless. Thanks to the media and other factors. Even the people who KNOW what's going on won't speak out! BECAUSE they know most people don't give a RATS ASS about anything as long as it pertains to them or their well being. This is why we will slowly become slaves. You all just want to ******* sit back and watch like this is some kind of boxing match. NO ONE is even trying anymore. Not the musicians, athletes, politicians,doctors, teachers etc...

There are 7 billion people on this Earth and the fact we all act clueless is beyond me. I can only hope and pray there's something better on the other side. Otherwise I'm just another voice who will be drowned out and not taken seriously. I'm telling you. Look at the position of the world right now. Look at history. People can be ruthless, people are smart. You and I will NEVER know the truth unless the masses RISE and destroy it! (Pluto is in Cap so it's possible) America was founded when Pluto was in Cap (American Revolution).

posted October 13, 2015 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Sad bit is when you go to fight monsters, it's all too easy to become a monster yourself.

And when you're out to "expose the truth" you can just be spreading another lie, no matter how noble your intentions are, which is essentially "freeing" them by changing the wallpaper within the cell.

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