posted October 17, 2015 03:58 PM            

Natal chart link:
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posted October 17, 2015 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:
Probably I believe these people can be very good when it comes to surviving because they appear to not harm anything,they seem like rats till one day...you get a stab in the back by this mars sign and they rise up.

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posted October 17, 2015 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Mars/Pluto Emperor! Welcome to LL

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posted October 17, 2015 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Mars/Pluto Emperor:
I have a Mars in Pisces 7th

though it is square pluto (0 orb,very tight) also sextile saturn tightly,so idk how this changes my mars placement.

From experience i can tell you yes,in the beginning in life i did have trouble standing up for myself.Ive been bullied very badly by kids in elementary and in middle school,but that was because i was nice,wasnt the type to mess with anyone.i never really had anyone help me,especially if i needed it.My family was there but they never really did understand me.ive been abused by my parents before,so i never had anyone to rely on,only my mom.

I always had to do things alone if i wanted something.Obviously that involved manipulation/back-stabbing/cutting people off.Now that im older (15 years old and in highschool)everytime i remember myself before,when i was weak,i just feel angrer,which makes me push foward with my ambitions. ive had a very assertive personality,i always knew this world was very cold,and my survival was more important so i had to use tactics (Mars/pisces) to gain power (pluto/sagittarius).

Power has been something ive wanted all my life,and i will do whatever it takes to get it.When i play,i play dirty,i tend to be a very sneaky person.there has been people who has tried to manipulate me,but my Mercury in Aquarius knows when they see BS.in my opinion those that are saying that mars in pisces are wimps,i may disprove that alot.i tend to be very good at getting at i want,but i do it using the typical pisces tactics (indirectly attacking,manipulating) to get what i want.

(no offense to anyone to this forum,but i really dont believe i am weak,ive fought very hard in life,and i am hoping to have power/being the top in life)

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posted October 22, 2015 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:

Niccolo Machiavelli had a Mars in Pisces

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posted October 22, 2015 08:24 AM            

Their mental strength is most apparent when they are being the proverbial shoulder to cry on for somebody. They have the ability to accept people for who they are and won't flinch and run away when you confide your darkest fears - they can take it all in stride.

That being said, they do have a very yielding, flexible quality about them that may give rise to speculations of weakness. And their aggression is not your typical direct attack, nor the defensive stance of the Cancer mars. Their anger is even harder to see coming than that of the Scorp mars.

posted October 22, 2015 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Machiavelli had mars in Pisces!!

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My impression is that he hated how the world was run, but he wasn't going to pretend otherwise. He was exiled (after having been tortured) before he started writing, IIRC. Many people today would've gone sobbing to the media, hoping to get on Oprah or some such, and asked, "Can't we get along?" But those were rougher times (and they're rougher today than many like to pretend, but better than then), and I don't know how long it took for his shoulders to heal after they were likely dislocated from the weeks of torture he endured, but he was already in exile by the time...maybe the pain was still terrible as he penned The Prince, which was advice to someone he presumably cared about. And that he could put aside his own bitterness (though I could sense it in his writings) to give a no-BS answer is strength.

posted October 24, 2015 07:02 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
My impression is that he hated how the world was run, but he wasn't going to pretend otherwise. He was exiled (after having been tortured) before he started writing, IIRC. Many people today would've gone sobbing to the media, hoping to get on Oprah or some such, and asked, "Can't we get along?" But those were rougher times (and they're rougher today than many like to pretend, but better than then), and I don't know how long it took for his shoulders to heal after they were likely dislocated from the weeks of torture he endured, but he was already in exile by the time...maybe the pain was still terrible as he penned The Prince, which was advice to someone he presumably cared about. And that he could put aside his own bitterness (though I could sense it in his writings) to give a no-BS answer is strength.

To the best of my knowledge, he didn't practice what he "preached" in The Prince (save that he insisted on getting citizens to fight rather than mercenaries), he was just saying what he learned works, and what the young prince needed to know if he wanted to live a long life and not wind up like himself (a bitter exile) at best.

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posted October 24, 2015 11:15 PM            

Having Mars square Pluto in your birth chart helps create more drive, more decisiveness than exists in Pisces alone for Mars. However, you will still be prone to impressionability, reactiveness, some tendencies to passive aggression or at least pricks of jealousy or competitiveness that are best set aside.

At its best, Mars is in a more reactive position in Pisces rather than a purely self-determined assertion of self.

Machiavelli had strong reactionary tendencies.

posted October 25, 2015 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Mars/Pluto Emperor,

Having Mars square Pluto in your birth chart helps create more drive, more decisiveness than exists in Pisces alone for Mars. However, you will still be prone to impressionability, reactiveness, some tendencies to passive aggression or at least pricks of jealousy or competitiveness that are best set aside.

At its best, Mars is in a more reactive position in Pisces rather than a purely self-determined assertion of self.

Machiavelli had strong reactionary tendencies.

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Huh,never saw it that way. I can see where you get the reactionary part,but usually I am a very good problem solver,usually I take the time to know how things work. Though I really don't start situations myself,unless it dosent involve me directly,I'm alot more indirect and tend to wana start situations and manage them.is mars in Cancer technically Reactionary too?

posted October 26, 2015 02:56 PM            

That does not mean this placement makes someone a 'reactionary', just that this tendency is often present because of the nature of Mars working in a cardinal water/lunar environment. That means it is difficult for the person to not react to things that irritated them. They tend to react upon first impressions from an emotional place rather than first put the situation/persons in context and respond with reason or productive dialogue.

If such a person learns to be proactive based on guiding spiritual ideals, then you may not see this reactionary tendency much outwardly, but they may feel it.