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Topic: I know I've asked this before :-/
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3365 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 20, 2015 09:40 AM
Sorry but I can't find post I made so I'll ask again. I'll make it a short one. Why am I so abnormally (?) cold and distant towards people that SHOULD be close to me and the exact opposite with strangers?? I'll talk to anyone about anything and everything ONCE, but if they demand more of my time I become extremely agitated and near enough p-d off. This is becoming more evident as I am growing older as well. I just feel so.....private. I've always been secretive but not like this. I think this is the hardest thing for my husband to understand about me as he is the opposite so I am trying my darnedest to analyze it and look for possible aspects/transits/progressions but am running blind in a forest here.. My older post was much more descriptive but I think you all get the point IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64798 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 20, 2015 09:43 AM
Fear of showing who you are ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3365 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 20, 2015 09:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Fear of showing who you are
But I do!! All of me but I don't like close relationships! I much rather show all of me to strangers. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9463 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 20, 2015 09:56 AM
Hi charlie,I'm not sure about the astrological placements with this one, but I would guess a mix of Uranus and Pluto. I believe those are strong in your natal chart. Does the cardinal square affect any of your placements? (with a tight orb, say 1°?) Have you heard about reactive attachment disorder? I'm not too well-informed on it, but perhaps it'll resonate: link. I don't think that's what you have, though. You may want to look into the different attachment styles as well. Here's some info about the avoidant/dismissive type. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64798 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 20, 2015 09:57 AM
It is easier with strangers is my point, C.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3365 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 20, 2015 01:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Hi charlie,I'm not sure about the astrological placements with this one, but I would guess a mix of Uranus and Pluto. I believe those are strong in your natal chart. Does the cardinal square affect any of your placements? (with a tight orb, say 1°?) Have you heard about reactive attachment disorder? I'm not too well-informed on it, but perhaps it'll resonate: link. I don't think that's what you have, though. You may want to look into the different attachment styles as well. Here's some info about the avoidant/dismissive type.
The square affects my Cancer Sun, Venus, Mercury. Cap Moon. Libra Pluto. I'll look into the other stuff you mentioned IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 2726 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 20, 2015 09:58 PM
You care too much so you feel like when your with strangers of you mess up it won't matter. Nobodies perfect and by showing the real you your relationship with your husband will get that much better! ------------------ My charts:Western-tropicalSidereal-heliocentric the moon is in the 7th house... & Jupiter aligns with Mars... Then peace will guide the planets. And love will steer the stars!" IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 2726 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 20, 2015 09:59 PM
Let him see your ugly side. Sometimes if someone is too great you feel like you can't relate and you want him to see you.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 13593 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 20, 2015 10:37 PM
Knowing your sign and year I can gauge this...If your NN is in second (Pisces) decan Scorpio...the Secret Language astrology books call that NN "The Way of Introspection" and talks about how extremely private these people can be. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 3365 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 01:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Knowing your sign and year I can gauge this...If your NN is in second (Pisces) decan Scorpio...the Secret Language astrology books call that NN "The Way of Introspection" and talks about how extremely private these people can be.
My NN decan is exact Scorpio 10.01 degrees. And my Sun and Mercury is in Scorpio decan as well with both sq Pluto. So I guess that's the answer then? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 13593 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 21, 2015 08:41 AM
Not sure if that's the whole explanation...but my husband's NN is in that decan, and he's extremely private. Same with my sister-in-law and a few friends I had growing up. (Like one of my best friends, who never even told me when she got kissed the first time, thinking it was none of my business.)The book says people with this NN may come to have only one close friend who is their lifeline to the outer world. Seems to get worse with age, as you said...though there may be a breaking point where it turns around. If you have a FB you might be able to get the free book here: http://thesecretlanguageofbirthdays.com/ Not trying to pressure you into believing anything but your situation sorta matches what I've read before, so I thought I'd tell you... IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2471 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 09:16 AM
Maybe I have answered before. But can I see your chart?IP: Logged |
PaulMcFly Knowflake Posts: 141 From: Olive branch, MS USA Registered: Aug 2015
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posted October 21, 2015 10:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Hi charlie,I'm not sure about the astrological placements with this one, but I would guess a mix of Uranus and Pluto. I believe those are strong in your natal chart. Does the cardinal square affect any of your placements? (with a tight orb, say 1°?) Have you heard about reactive attachment disorder? I'm not too well-informed on it, but perhaps it'll resonate: link. I don't think that's what you have, though. You may want to look into the different attachment styles as well. Here's some info about the avoidant/dismissive type.
I don't think Uranus or Pluto have anything to do with it. Look at your ASC aspects or 11th house aspects. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9463 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 21, 2015 10:50 AM
In my view, you bring up two different issues in your OP, charlie.Actually I should have addressed that in my first post. You say: quote: Why am I so abnormally (?) cold and distant towards people that SHOULD be close to me and the exact opposite with strangers??
And later on you say: quote: I just feel so.....private.
Those two things are very different, and they're not necessarily related. The first points to an emotional issue, and the second to a simple preference of behavior. Being private simply means you are careful with how you disclose personal information, and prefer keeping things to yourself and a select few others. But not wanting to share things with a closed one and instead talk to strangers implies that you don't like having close bonds with people. It points to an aversion to attachment and obligation that close relationships often seem to bring. The interesting thing is that you have Uranus in Scorpio conjunct your NN. So there's an urge to bond deeply and durably (Scorpio) but at the same time there's a rejection of those very same things (Uranus). Given that we're dealing with the NN here, it's natural to assume that this is a major life lesson for you and that you're not innately inclined to excel at those things. Final note: if I had to ascribe just one aspect to what you've described, I'd say Moon square Pluto. Read about it and you'll see why (actually here's a link.) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64798 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 21, 2015 11:18 AM
That is a brilliant post, Doux! Hope you are doing well.------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3365 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 01:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: In my view, you bring up two different issues in your OP, charlie.Actually I should have addressed that in my first post. You say: Those two things are very different, and they're not necessarily related. The first points to an emotional issue, and the second to a simple preference of behavior. Being private simply means you are careful with how you disclose personal information, and prefer keeping things to yourself and a select few others. But not wanting to share things with a closed one and instead talk to strangers implies that you don't like having close bonds with people. It points to an aversion to attachment and obligation that close relationships often seem to bring. The interesting thing is that you have Uranus in Scorpio conjunct your NN. So there's an urge to bond deeply and durably (Scorpio) but at the same time there's a rejection of those very same things (Uranus). Given that we're dealing with the NN here, it's natural to assume that this is a major life lesson for you and that you're not innately inclined to excel at those things. Final note: if I had to ascribe just one aspect to what you've described, I'd say Moon square Pluto. Read about it and you'll see why (actually here's a link.)
The article about Pluto sq Moon is me. But I also know Uranus plays at least some part. Few people excite me much after the 1st meeting. It's like chasing the 1st high..and then Pluto destroys it all. Thank you! Btw, would having a Cap Moon making it worse seeing as it can be a rather detached placement by itself? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 64798 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 21, 2015 01:17 PM
What conjuncts hekate? That is the shadow self/------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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charlie Knowflake Posts: 3365 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted October 21, 2015 01:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: What conjuncts hekate? That is the shadow self/
Conjunct NN and Uranus 3H Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9463 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 24, 2015 10:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: That is a brilliant post, Doux! Hope you are doing well.
I've just seen this... Sorry for missing it! Thanks, Ami. quote: Originally posted by charlie: The article about Pluto sq Moon is me. But I also know Uranus plays at least some part. Few people excite me much after the 1st meeting. It's like chasing the 1st high..and then Pluto destroys it all. Thank you!Btw, would having a Cap Moon making it worse seeing as it can be a rather detached placement by itself?
Yep, I think Uranus has something to do with it, as well. Or even your 11H influence? Capricorn Moon can be quite detached for sure. A Cancer Moon would certainly have a very different effect.
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bluestskies88 Knowflake Posts: 279 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted October 24, 2015 01:00 PM
you hurt the one's you love the most.my ex was the same thing..i never understood this for a long time, until i read about it. do you have any placements in capricorn, retrograde in venus? it can also be psychological (childhood stuff). you are more open to strangers because it's less of an investment and the ability to become more close. there's less chances you are able to be vulnerable (showing your deeper/secretive side) and also your fear of intimacy. does this relate? IP: Logged |