posted October 26, 2015 09:40 AM            

I hope my question is clear.

He's very reserved, shy, and cautious. I won't discuss our synastry because that's for another section, but I will say my BML (12th house) is conjunct his Mercury which raised this question in the first place. I tend to constantly question his words and actions or make them out to be entirely negative wven when he's doing something productive or nice to me or for himself, but I do this with everyone I'm involved with on a personal level which is why I'm trying to gain a better understanding. It's part of my karma and ours.

I want to know what you guys think based off his chart.

Am I just being paranoid because of my own internal issues or does his chart indeed show lies, deception, and mistrust?

FYI: I know Astrology isn't set in stone.

Another quick note: My mars in Sagittarius is my 7th house. Aries rules my 12th house. BML is in my 12th. I've read and experienced that these placements tend to make you not see your relationships or people clearly because of the 12th house influence,

This is why I want second opinions on this guy's chart.

Thank you in advance.

posted October 26, 2015 10:31 AM            

And Mars in the 6th? I have Mars in the 6th. Yeah, not a comfy place for Mars at all. It does come with the need to be helpful to others, but it's also a placement where Mars "burns out" quickly and wants to withdraws to recharge. I have an air Mars and this house placement makes my Mars touchy enough, but at least I can recharge quickly. With an earth Mars in the 6th, expect a LOT of touchiness and a lot more need to withdraw and recharge. Plus, this mars placement with a 4th house Pisces moon? Whew, this dude's bound to be SERIOUSLY moody. SERIOUSLY.

Saturn in the 1st squaring moon in the 4th is pretty harsh, especially for a Pluto in Scorpio generation person. He's got intimacy issues and most probably has problems relating to women. He likely projects a lot of his unhappiness with his emotional life unto women. He's likely very judgmental of women and may be very quick to blame them for his own shortcomings. Or he expects women to be subservient to him in relationships. Definitely be careful with this guy. Any sign he's a misogynist or abusive (especially emotionally abusive), get away from him (and granted, I don't know your gender, but this goes regardless of your gender). I'm saying this is someone with tough squares with luminaries in my own chart. I am not going to dish out happy, shiny interpretations of such squares, especially with Saturn.

I'll be honest, as a introvert myself: shy, introverted people aren't all "misunderstood". Some are flowers waiting to bloom in the right social environment. Some genuinely want to be alone. Some deserve to be alone. Some have deep emotional or psychological issues that keep them socially isolated. Some are very disturbed individuals who need to be socially isolated. But hey, who knows, maybe the dude's a real awesome guy.

posted October 26, 2015 10:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces:
I'd dare say he's both shy and selfish. That can happen, especially with earth Mars. IME. Especially with Mars in Taurus. I'm sure there's plenty of people here who'll jump all over me for saying this, but Mars in Taurus is about as selfish as Mars gets. Everything is about comforting one's self, and any caution or shyness could very well be about protecting one's self to the point of being an emotional miser.

And Mars in the 6th? I have Mars in the 6th. Yeah, not a comfy place for Mars at all. It does come with the need to be helpful to others, but it's also a placement where Mars "burns out" quickly and wants to withdraws to recharge. I have an air Mars and this house placement makes my Mars touchy enough, but at least I can recharge quickly. With an earth Mars in the 6th, expect a LOT of touchiness and a lot more need to withdraw and recharge. Plus, this mars placement with a 4th house Pisces moon? Whew, this dude's bound to be SERIOUSLY moody. SERIOUSLY.

Saturn in the 1st squaring moon in the 4th is pretty harsh, especially for a Pluto in Scorpio generation person. He's got intimacy issues and most probably has problems relating to women. He likely projects a lot of his unhappiness with his emotional life unto women. He's likely very judgmental of women and may be very quick to blame them for his own shortcomings. Or he expects women to be subservient to him in relationships. Definitely be careful with this guy. Any sign he's a misogynist or abusive (especially emotionally abusive), get away from him (and granted, I don't know your gender, but this goes regardless of your gender). I'm saying this is someone with tough squares with luminaries in my own chart. I am not going to dish out happy, shiny interpretations of such squares, especially with Saturn.

I'll be honest, as a introvert myself: shy, introverted people aren't all "misunderstood". Some are flowers waiting to bloom in the right social environment. Some genuinely want to be alone. Some deserve to be alone. Some have deep emotional or psychological issues that keep them socially isolated. Some are very disturbed individuals who need to be socially isolated. But hey, who knows, maybe the dude's a real awesome guy.

Here's my advice (in addition to the "If he's woman-hating pig, run away" bit above): if it seems like you're doing all the work to get to know him, like he's waiting for you to come to him rather than meeting you halfway, then you have your answer. In which case, you'd be better off moving along.

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Thank you so much for such an in-depth response!

I didn't even suspect it could be his mars in Taurus in the 6th.

& no, I'm not doing all the work. I just misunderstand a lot of his actions or intentions I assume. I know everyone is selfish to a certain extent and what you described isn't him at all. Well, the emotionally abusive aspect. He doesn't even know where to begin when it comes to his emotions let alone mine. That's the issue. He's so sweet, kind-hearted, and forgiving but he doesn't express himself or even talk often. He's like a closed book. so maybe I'm just viewing him being this way as being emotionally selfish with his emotions?

posted October 26, 2015 11:03 AM            

His Venus in Aries retrograde?

I know Aries' influenced individuals tend to be selfish in general so with his Venus being in Aries AND retrograde, is it inevitable that this would be even more so?

Maybe selfish is the wrong word.

For example, he's genorous with everyone he meets, openly friendly, caring, etc but when it comes to physically expressing his love in gestures or emotions, he's a closed book. He won't talk about emotions and he barely shows affection.

Selfish is that sense.

When it comes to communicating about issues and problems, he tries to open up. He definitely tries.

posted October 26, 2015 12:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:

For example, he's genorous with everyone he meets, openly friendly, caring, etc but when it comes to physically expressing his love in gestures or emotions, he's a closed book. He won't talk about emotions and he barely shows affection.

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posted October 26, 2015 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Lunar Pisces:
I'd dare say he's both shy and selfish. That can happen, especially with earth Mars. IME. Especially with Mars in Taurus. I'm sure there's plenty of people here who'll jump all over me for saying this, but Mars in Taurus is about as selfish as Mars gets. Everything is about comforting one's self, and any caution or shyness could very well be about protecting one's self to the point of being an emotional miser.

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