posted October 30, 2015 12:22 PM            

Wasn't sure if it was just the season of decay & degeneration.... Or too much vata imbalance (there goes my Ayurvedic brain :P)

posted October 30, 2015 05:55 PM            

Or if you have any personal points in range of parallel/contra-parallel of declination of Saturn's current position 19S19 (19*19' south), then Saturn could be the 'trigger'. This would include people with natal personal points in mid-late Taurus/Scorpio or early mid-Leo/Aqua.

In addition, Pluto at 21S04 is hitting many people's natal points in declination right now. Depression is generally only signaled by hits to personal points (Sun, Moon, Asc, Mercury, Venus, Mars).

posted October 30, 2015 06:53 PM            

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The Declinations Guy

posted October 31, 2015 12:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
[]I've just written a blog on this:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/saturn-square-neptune/ []

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Hi Kannon! I had a look at your article, thanks. Your site is pretty. I like the font, and the color(s).

The last days of November 2016, (placidus), I'll have transiting Sun-Saturn conjunction at 7+ Sagittarius (in my H12) opposite my Gemini Sun 7+ Gemini H6, while t Neptune 7+ Pisces (intercH3) squares the tSun-Saturn and my nSun. *Jawdrop*

(wow?!!!!....)

Missblyss, I've been feeling a little like that too. A lot going on in the sky, for sure! ... I Hope you are okay, and that your friends stay safe.

It's good to help each other as listeners, supporters, and cheer squads. We'll get through this. Having another Human Being present and interested in your life can be a boost.

posted October 31, 2015 12:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I've just written a blog on this:
http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/saturn-square-neptune/

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posted October 31, 2015 12:54 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:

Missblyss, I've been feeling a little like that too. A lot going on in the sky, for sure! ... I Hope you are okay, and that your friends stay safe.

It's good to help each other as listeners, supporters, and cheer squads. We'll get through this. Having another Human Being present and interested in your life can be a boost.

{{ADD, Greetings Doux }}

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thank you love! it has been such a hard time for me! i've never been depressed like this in my life! and I'm so isolated :/. Sometimes I go days without seeing another human (besides my 2-year-old)

posted October 31, 2015 01:03 AM            

It can take a bit of time to adjust with these types of transits, but people do it all the time so that in the latter half of the transit some problems can be solved.

Saturn & Neptune ganging up together can feel deflating, like a confidence killer at first. Just make sure that you get any potential physical problems checked out instead of wondering.

For example, in 2002 when Neptune squared my natal Sun-Saturn, I was experiencing new headaches and foul breath. I realized that 20 years had passed since I had a Mercury amalgam filling put into a tooth when I was 12. It was breaking down. I found a biological dentist who removed it, replaced it with composite in a completely controlled safe manner in only 20 minutes! Only cost me $80.

This is one example of how some Neptune/Saturn combinations are physical conditions producing some mysterious or mental effects.

posted October 31, 2015 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:
thank you love! it has been such a hard time for me! i've never been depressed like this in my life! and I'm so isolated :/. Sometimes I go days without seeing another human (besides my 2-year-old)

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awww Missblyss! Hug!!! {{{ }}} I'm so sorry you feel so down right now. That sense of isolation can be sooo sob-filled, painful and forlorn. You've gotta get some real people into your life.

Do you know other mothers with kids your age?... If you did then maybe the two of you could share a sitter and go out together for ice cream and girl-talk at least once a week, then stay in touch by phone on another?

When I had two very young girls in the 1980s, there was a church (a United Methodist) nearby that had a Mother's Day Out program on a Wednesday morning. Allowed us to drop off our kids to socialize them, while we could either talk or run errands, grocery shop. Maybe there are other organizations like a YMCA that provide Mother's Day Out, or a buddy program?

I raised my girls as a single mother. That kind of isolation is a brand all its own. I remember that at least you can have some small arms that wrap around you and hug you, hmmm? But there's nothing like being around an adult friend who Understands you, too.

I've heard of postpartum mothers having depressions... But that wouldn't be an issue for you now, would it? ... Probably not.

Good that you can be online! yay!!
(I didn't have that when my kids were young.) So wonderful to be able to 'be' with people even if only online.

posted October 31, 2015 03:53 AM            

I don't have many friends here that have anything in common with me anymore! I'm only 24 so most people my age are still in that partying phase.. They don't seem to want to hangout with me and my little muffin!

She is 100% worth it.. And her little hugs are so healing. It's quite odd, really, but for the first year of being a single mom I was totally fine! I visited my ex a few months ago, made the mistake of hooking up with him again... Once my energies were all intertwined with his he was so mean to me! It just broke me. I haven't been the same since.

He told me that I'm a failure and not doing anything with my life because I'm not in a real college ( I study holistic medicine) & take care of his daughter with no help!

He made fun of how I dressed. He said I had saggy boobs and was acting embarrassed of being seen with me... It was rather twisted because he brought me up there under this illusion that he and I would be spending time together! I drove 8 hrs with my daughter to see him... And once I got there he just ignored me.. And if he didn't ignore me he berated me..

I'm not sure if he intentionally lured me up there to hurt me.. Or if he just thought he would like to see me and ended up not wanting me there once I showed up...

posted October 31, 2015 07:22 AM            

You were given great advice. You need a support network in your life. People with common life situations...I'm sure you will find friends. It's always painful when you lose a group of friends due to life's circumstances, but this is because your life is entering a new phase.

If you can pamper yourself a bit. A bit of me time. Maybe some relaxing thing like yoga or meditation classes? Well, and if you feel depressed take care. It's better when you take care of it in the beggining.

posted October 31, 2015 12:44 PM            

Put your walking boots on, sweetie! You'll be more than okay. Believe, and Owning it will bring steadying results.

posted October 31, 2015 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Soltze:
That's psychological abuse. Cut him off the most possible.

You were given great advice. You need a support network in your life. People with common life situations...I'm sure you will find friends. It's always painful when you lose a group of friends due to life's circumstances, but this is because your life is entering a new phase.

If you can pamper yourself a bit. A bit of me time. Maybe some relaxing thing like yoga or meditation classes? Well, and if you feel depressed take care. It's better when you take care of it in the beggining.

Wish you the best. Be brave

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Thank you love! I am definitely going to try to get into some yoga classes... Just anytime for ME would be incredible!

Up until now I haven't had anyone who was able to watch my daughter besides me, so I literally have not been able to have ANY time without her! Not even an hour! I think that is part of why I am feeling this way, just a bit of time alone should definitely do me some good.

posted October 31, 2015 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Missblyss

Don't take it personally if you can. I know, it's easier looking from the outside, in. I don't know that he planned it that way from the beginning but I think you hurt his ego, twice! (if not three times) Leaving him, then turning him down. (Then not sure on this last visit) You stole his mojo. LOL
For that reason, he's bitter and angry but scared that if he confronts you then you'll crush his ego again. He's afraid to reveal his deep feelings now to make himself vulnerable.
That's my 2 cents.

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lol, I think you are right... But he definitely avenged himself and stole my mojo right back!

The experience that stands out most in my mind is when I was having a FULL mental breakdown as we were driving. I am usually pretty good at containing my emtions (virgo moon sextile saturn).. but I was just losing it, crying uncontrollably. I was definitely having a nervous breakdown.. telling him I never wanted things to be this way and that my dream was that one day we could be together in a healthy way...

He just looked me dead in the eyes and said "we will NEVER be together again."
Then he proceeded to tell me that I really needed mental and psychological help..

posted October 31, 2015 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Missblyss..... {{{ }}} Time for you and your tiny muffin to Clear him out of the 'space' where he affects you. -- Draw emotional boundary, and protect it. Start over. You deserve better. Seize the Day! Begin to Take your power back-- for yours AND your Child's sake. You will Imprint vibes of growing good self-esteem habits on her, and will help her have ability to master circumstances and thrive.
(You Can Do This! ~~ Cast away his opinions. They don't count. Give her a better future, by Believing in yours. You can alter your trajectory in life, and Be Amazing. Follow your dreams, and don't let his small {albeit painful} criticisms veer you off the road of your success.) REACH OUT to some of those in your circle... It's AMAZING when you let down some walls just a little. Get the peer-support you deserve with your career and your child. Your self-confidence will boost and mastery energy WILL rise.

Put your walking boots on, sweetie! You'll be more than okay. Believe, and Owning it will bring steadying results.

(music) Evangeline (Little Big Town) [4:33] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6R_A1X_cJI

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I used to be SO sure of myself and my path.... (holistic medicine, Ayurveda, reiki, etc) My certainty was truly unwavering... I don't know what he triggered in me, but I really began to doubt everything about myself...

I wasn't sure if I WAS being selfish by pursuing these things instead of "selling out" and getting a real world job that may be more financially prosperous..

Just yesterday I went to visit a very nice Holistic massage school. I think that I will begin there, to create a practice that integrates all of my passions, but being able to fall back on the steady salary of a massage therapist so that I can support my daughter. Hopefully I will make friends at this school too and eventually have a little community down here! I can really feel that I am going to feel so much better once I start taking steps to become the person I envision myself being!

posted October 31, 2015 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:
I do know a few people, but not well!

I don't have many friends here that have anything in common with me anymore! I'm only 24 so most people my age are still in that partying phase.. They don't seem to want to hangout with me and my little muffin!

She is 100% worth it.. And her little hugs are so healing. It's quite odd, really, but for the first year of being a single mom I was totally fine! I visited my ex a few months ago, made the mistake of hooking up with him again... Once my energies were all intertwined with his he was so mean to me! It just broke me. I haven't been the same since.

He told me that I'm a failure and not doing anything with my life because I'm not in a real college ( I study holistic medicine) & take care of his daughter with no help!

He made fun of how I dressed. He said I had saggy boobs and was acting embarrassed of being seen with me... It was rather twisted because he brought me up there under this illusion that he and I would be spending time together! I drove 8 hrs with my daughter to see him... And once I got there he just ignored me.. And if he didn't ignore me he berated me..

I'm not sure if he intentionally lured me up there to hurt me.. Or if he just thought he would like to see me and ended up not wanting me there once I showed up...

The crazy thing is, I left him! He called me months ago asking for me back and I said no! I don't know what the heck happened on this trip but I feel like I really lost myself. I've been questioning who I am and what I'm doing ever since

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posted October 31, 2015 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm feeling it, too. I finally got a bit of sleep, but I've been too depressed to get much of anything done, and now Halloween has been messed up, too.

I've been trying to bypass it, but it isn't working.

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posted October 31, 2015 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Is that sort of treatment that makes it easy for me to walk away without crying, bc is like Oh thanks for making it clear you are a peace of **** and not worth my time, bye bye and good luck bc you clearly need it.

Thank God you don't live with him, makes it so easy to walk away! And don't ever drive 8 hours for him ever ever again!!!!

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Go Hypatia!!

posted October 31, 2015 04:49 PM            

The important thing is our ability to feel pleasure in our gorgeous life-giving bodies, not what an insecure boy thinks others will think of him if he's seen with a woman... so superficial. It's very difficult with all our cultural conditioning to extract ourselves from the influence of those who would degrade us to make themselves feel more powerful--that is misogyny abd patriarchy at work--and it's powerful... but our life force and capacity for joy is more powerful.

... I'm a young single mom too... and I'm feeling depressed right now too.. so writing this is helping me feel better because i need a pep talk at the moment too. I did a similar thing, went a long distance for a man who was not ready to be there for me or our daughter in any real way, and it sapped my energy many times. My daughter is 4 now and i have found a solid group of beautiful friends--it's still hard because I'm still at home alone with her a vast majority of the time.. but there IS another side of that kind of difficulty.

And i do credit the current Saturn Neptune square environment with my present depression... know that you aren't alone, and all things do pass. Be as gentle and patient with yourself as possible, know it's ok to feel pleasure and joy whenever you find the opportunity. Broken teeth are so hard Saturn is very difficult... i have tooth issues and it's awful.