posted February 28, 2016 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I was the one that broke up but I didn't want to at all and I had this super strong sensation that I did not have a choice on this matter at all and our break up felt fated like it was completely out of my control even though I pulled the trigger just like us meeting felt completely out of my control. It was very bizarre and it was the hardest thing I had to do in my life and overcome. It took me years to recover from the break up but part of what I was feeling the day I broke up was that he was holding me back and I would not be able to keep growing as a person if I stayed with him , there was this feeling of feeling stuck although I was madly deeply in love like I have never been in my life.

All I can say is that yes I needed to let go of him to continue developing my northnode qualities and that me and him were excessively overly attached to each other because we have had so many past lives together that the break up had to happen to balance out any excessive attachment and over dependence we had over each other that was hindering our personal growth but it was the hardest thing I ever did in my life and I felt dead inside for a long time after we broke up and every inch of me was in pain but it did built up my emotional resilience and forced me to dig deep inside and look for strength to rise above all this still loving him unconditionally. It also forced me to address any obsessive tendencies in my personality and outgrow that or balance it out and that was an important lesson. It was also about learning to let go fully.

(Mercury rules my 7th and parallels pluto and juno, I was very intense and all or nothing with love and relationships, I gave myself completely to him and I feel pluto takes away what you became too attached to specially if it gets in the way of personal growth, its like losing him was part of my journey to became more emotionally resilient, independent, balanced and less obsessive and intense).

Interesting...

My chart: Mercury 7H Ruler parallel my Pluto and Juno (7H ruler is like a Venus)

His chart: Venus-Pluto-Juno stellium

...and we both have Moon conjunct and parallel moon in our angles, his DC and my IC.

I did meet my match emotionally, it explains why he is the only one I fell for as deeply as I did.

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posted February 28, 2016 04:25 PM            

One difference between you and I is that transit pluto was conjuncting transit southnode as well and both conjuncted tighly my natal Southnode.

So the theme of letting go of things that get in the way of developing your northnode qualities was much stronger in my case. I imagine you only had transit pluto on your SN and not transit Pluto and SN on your SN.

posted February 28, 2016 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^Well synastry would explain why you felt so deeply in love but transits trigger that process and bring the person to you. I met him with pluto was right on my AC and Saturn right on my DC as I mentioned.

One difference between you and I is that transit pluto was conjunctint transit southnode as well and both conjuncted tighly my natal Southnode.

So the theme of letting go of things that get in the way of developing your northnode qualities was much stronger in my case. I imagine you only had transit pluto on your SN and not transit Pluto and SN on your SN.

I want to add that I was in shock about the break up, two weeks earlier everything was great, it did shook me at my core and left me completely in shock even though I was the one that 'broke up' but it didn't feel that way at all to me, it felt like the universe did it. I know odd.

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So the "compulsive" feeling that you "had to" break up probably resonates with Pluto, but maybe this thought that "the universe did it" is more the tr.SN on your SN? What do you think? You got me thinking..
Of course I agree there is a difference, you really had a strong double hit!
I guess it's the synastry for the deep love, yeah, but I still can't quite grasp what's the cause for the non-possesiveness in particular Anyway, thanks again!

posted February 28, 2016 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I could never understand why would someone turn their back on such a great love, like you described. Why? Whats to develop and to grow after the break up left you shattered. I mean, its been how many years since you guts broje up, 12? And you still cant let go off him on your mind. Are you happier without him? Is your love life safisfying? Your life fuller? I dont get it. If the love was destructive and the guy was a bad as$, then i understand. But what you described was a full mad mutual love. Destroyed for what? The north node qualities? Darn it, i dont understand. Shared True love is so rare to find.

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Well there is more to the story ofcourse, we were young and immature and had not developed good relationship skills and both let our pride get the best of us but is also true that I felt staying with him would hold me back and like I explained I did not feel I had control of the outcome at all.

Its easy to judge but if you aren't me nor him and in our shoes dealing with the transits we were dealing with and other variables and been so young it will be hard to comprehend. I didn't even drive when I was with him yet and depended a lot on my parents still for example.

Last I do honestly belief that the breakup had to happen to balance out over attachment and over dependence that was hindering personal growth do to so many life times together like I tried to explain earlier. Its not just about experiencing that big love, there is a bigger picture involving the evolution of your soul.

If I was still with him there would be a part of me feeling stuck, isn't that the nature of southnode contacts often, you have a strong bond but you also feel you can't grow with that person? That is how it was. You feel you have met a great soulmate perhaps your other half but there is another part of you that feels that staying with him feels like going backwards and keeps you from moving forward and your soul continuing to evolve like it is suppose to. Pain leads to change and change leads to growth.

Also yes it has been years and yes I will always love him but I don't want to get back with him in this life, I really don't but it doesn't change my feelings as they will always be there, I dont think true love is something you can erase and that is just the way it is and I am not ashamed of that. I do belief that real love is forever no matter what.

I also love my husband deeply although in a different way but strangely he is the one I want to be with even though I felt more emotionally and physically fulfilled with my ex but relationships are complex, in other ways I feel better with my husband bc I know he and I fight but he has never given me the silent treatment in 9 years I have been with him and he always fights for me when I have tried to end things and I feel secure with him, he always forgives me and doesn't punish me or holds grudges; my ex failed me in those ways towards the end but my husband has failed me too in some important ways. However I like a man who fights for what he wants not a man who withdraws, does the silent treatment thing and punishes me with it like me ex did.

posted February 28, 2016 06:32 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

So the "compulsive" feeling that you "had to" break up probably resonates with Pluto, but maybe this thought that "the universe did it" is more the tr.SN on your SN? What do you think? You got me thinking..
Of course I agree there is a difference, you really had a strong double hit!
I guess it's the synastry for the deep love, yeah, but I still can't quite grasp what's the cause for the non-possesiveness in particular Anyway, thanks again!

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The non possessiveness must be coming from something else and should be interesting to try to figure out, I love puzzles but I could see 100% how that transit triggered you falling in love deeply with a soulmate from another life you have reunited with in this one.

posted February 28, 2016 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
The non possessiveness must be coming from something else and should be interesting to try to figure out, I love puzzles but I could see 100% how that transit triggered you falling in love deeply with a soulmate from another life you have reunited with in this one.

I have to tell you something, I love talking with you and I think everyone here does to. You have very nice social skills. I wonder what placements or aspects you have that make it feel so nice talking to you, like talking you always feels smooth and lovely. You are blessed ! I just felt I should tell you there is something special about you and thanks for all the info you have shared in this thread and thanks Orange for starting this thread and asking about pluto nodal aspects!

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WHAAAAAAT?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really mean it???? lol
I am blashing to my ears (I don't know if I said it correctly lol)
THIS was one from the BIGGEST surprises in my life and I really mean it!
I thought the exactly opposite, like noone really liked me in ll, except for 2 or three people perhaps lol
It seems I have a rather false image of myself and a reaaally low confidence, it is worse than I thought!!! I should go to a shrink or something, like NOW!
Your words were deeply touching hypatia238, you could never imagine!!!!!!!! Thank you very very very much for that! You really made me smile so much!!!!!!!!!!!

posted February 28, 2016 06:53 PM            

As for this, sometime if you have the time and you are in a mood, maybe we could discuss it further! Not only to return some of your awesome compliments back, but because it's also the truth, I really appreciate your astrological comments, they are so detailed and cohesive and comprehensable! Although I must confess I don' t really understand all of them yet lol. You seem to know a lot about patterns and minor aspects and some other stuff that I forgot now but I have three months only in this, so..it is still a bit difficult! But I like your perspective!
As for my placements, I don't know, maybe Libra? stellium in libra - Mars, Pluto, Saturn
7th house stellium - sun in leo/mercury in cancer/moon in virgo
Just my guess, but I didn't see them that way, the words "social skills" that you said rang "libra" to me and then I thought "Oh my, I have a lot of libra one way or another, I think" And I just thought it was a bad thing - lol, no offence to libras, I was with a libra guy for 7 years, but they are (and I am) a bit indecisice and wishy-washy, so..

posted February 28, 2016 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

WHAAAAAAT?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really mean it???? lol
I am blashing to my ears (I don't know if I said it correctly lol)
THIS was one from the BIGGEST surprises in my life and I really mean it!
I thought the exactly opposite, like noone really liked me in ll, except for 2 or three people perhaps lol
It seems I have a rather false image of myself and a reaaally low confidence, it is worse than I thought!!! I should go to a shrink or something, like NOW!
Your words were deeply touching hypatia238, you could never imagine!!!!!!!! Thank you very very very much for that! You really made me smile so much!!!!!!!!!!!

p.s. I don't say these things about low self esteem so that I can gather more compliments indirectly lol! I thought I should clarify that! But it's the truth and I am still shocked by your words hypatia! REALLY thank you for telling me this!!!

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I have been meaning to tell you this for a while and yes I definitely mean it. I have never gone out of my way to tell someone this on this site so yes is genuine. The way you interact with everyone is touching to me, it really is. You are very respectful and humble, its beautiful and like I really admire that about you a lot. I think how you interact with others makes others feel special in a way even though that is not your goal, is just naturally what happens bc of how you approach others.

posted February 28, 2016 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have been meaning to tell you this for a while and yes I definitely mean it. I have never gone out of my way to tell someone this on this site so yes is genuine. The way you interact with everyone is touching to me, it really is. You are very respectful and humble, its beautiful and like I really admire that about you a lot. I think how you interact with others makes others feel special in a way even though that is not your goal, is just naturally what happens bc of how you approach others.

They say that Quintiles are gifts people have that others see in the person but the person fails to see in themselves so I wonder if perhaps this is what is happening .

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Since you are a Virgo if I remember well, lol and my mom is a Virgo, too, I believe you!
As for the quintiles, hmmm, interesting (funny that I just now mentioned your knowledge about the so-called minor aspects that I can't really reach now
I have moon quintile MC
and sun biquintile neptune
I don't even know if that's good lol

posted February 28, 2016 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well there is more to the story ofcourse, we were young and immature and had not developed good relationship skills and both let our pride get the best of us but is also true that I felt staying with him would hold me back and like I explained I did not feel I had control of the outcome at all.

Its easy to judge but if you aren't me nor him and in our shoes dealing with the transits we were dealing with and other variables and been so young it will be hard to comprehend. I didn't even drive when I was with him yet and depended a lot on my parents still for example.

Last I do honestly belief that the breakup had to happen to balance out over attachment and over dependence that was hindering personal growth do to so many life times together like I tried to explain earlier. Its not just about experiencing that big love, there is a bigger picture involving the evolution of your soul.

If I was still with him there would be a part of me feeling stuck, isn't that the nature of southnode contacts often, you have a strong bond but you also feel you can't grow with that person? That is how it was. You feel you have met a great soulmate perhaps your other half but there is another part of you that feels that staying with him feels like going backwards and keeps you from moving forward and your soul continuing to evolve like it is suppose to. Pain leads to change and change leads to growth.

Also yes it has been years and yes I will always love him but I don't want to get back with him in this life, I really don't but it doesn't change my feelings as they will always be there, I dont think true love is something you can erase and that is just the way it is and I am not ashamed of that. I do belief that real love is forever no matter what.

I also love my husband deeply although in a different way but strangely he is the one I want to be with even though I felt more emotionally and physically fulfilled with my ex but relationships are complex, in other ways I feel better with my husband bc I know he and I fight but he has never given me the silent treatment in 9 years I have been with him and he always fights for me when I have tried to end things and I feel secure with him, he always forgives me and doesn't punish me or holds grudges; my ex failed me in those ways towards the end but my husband has failed me too in some important ways. However I like a man who fights for what he wants not a man who withdraws, does the silent treatment thing and punishes me with it like me ex did.

Its hard to get everything you want, you just have to make the most of what you have. I have moon inconjunct venus and opposing my 7H ruler Mercury, I wasn't set up to have a super fulfilling love life. I have been both lucky and unlucky in love and that is my journey and nobody's journey from what I have seen is a picnic.

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"yes I will always love him but I don't want to get back with him in this life, I really don't but it doesn't change my feelings as they will always be there, I dont think true love is something you can erase and that is just the way it is and I am not ashamed of that. I do belief that real love is forever no matter what."

posted February 28, 2016 08:08 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

Since you are a Virgo if I remember well, lol and my mom is a Virgo, too, I believe you!
As for the quintiles, hmmm, interesting (funny that I just now mentioned your knowledge about the so-called minor aspects that I can't really reach now
I have moon quintile MC
and sun biquintile neptune
I don't even know if that's good lol

"the person fails to see in themselves "
I thought that maybe my natal Sun opp Asc/conj. Dsc and intercepted Leo/Aqua in 7th/1st house might be the cause. (Again my mom has mentioned the exact words you said lol) What do you think?
But maybe I should stop, because it's Orange's thread!
Thank you so much for your kind words and feedback hypatia238

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I could definitely see how Sun conjunct DC would give you social grace and how having aquarius and Leo intercepted in your 1st and 7th house would perhaps make it hard for you to see this about yourself.

However that Moon quintile MC definitely plays a role, MC is how you appear to others and the Moon quintile adds this sweetness and nourishing vibe in your interactions with others and how you carry yourself that perhaps you don't see. This in combo with Sun conjunct DC I feel will explain it yes.

"Moon quintile MC
You are gifted at public relations and being able to read the public mood and anticipate its trends. Those closest and most supportive to you may often inspire or stimulate the creativity for which you are given recognition. You could be considered exceptional, restless and sometimes driven, but always original."

^There you go! Moon quintile MC makes you gifted at public relations which is further enhanced by your Sun conjunct DC! Perhaps Public relations is your calling! that is so cool.

posted February 28, 2016 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I could definitely see how Sun conjunct DC would give you social grace and how having aquarius and Leo intercepted in your 1st and 7th house would perhaps make it hard for you to see this about yourself.

However that Moon quintile MC definitely plays a role, MC is how you appear to others and the Moon quintile adds this sweetness and nourishing vibe in your interactions with others and how you carry yourself that perhaps you don't see. This in combo with Sun conjunct DC I feel will explain it yes.

"Moon quintile MC
You are gifted at public relations and being able to read the public mood and anticipate its trends. Those closest and most supportive to you may often inspire or stimulate the creativity for which you are given recognition. You could be considered exceptional, restless and sometimes driven, but always original."

^There you go! Moon quintile MC makes you gifted at public relations which is further enhanced by your Sun conjunct DC! Perhaps Public relations is your calling! that is so cool.

Sun Biquintile Neptune sounds very nice too but can't find much info on it.

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posted February 28, 2016 08:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
yes, I thought so, hypatia..I thought maybe there was more to what you shared in your previous post..ahh..things happen for a reason

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posted February 28, 2016 08:36 PM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

Hahaha, yesss, I have read somewhere else that PR is my calling and I totally laughed hard about that! I don't mean to dismiss your insight, not at all, but I simply can't imagine myself in this position! However, it is valid simultaneously, but somewhat modified, I think.. I am so much into relationships in general and more specifically, too but I dont know if I can actually show this aspect of mine in person with a lot of people simultaneously! It works for me more in one-to-one relationships and now that I think about it maybe writing helps in "revealing" any possible skills, because I think I can be more focused and concrete compared to talking for example. (maybe jupiter square mercury? I don't know)
I forgot to mention that my sun in leo is considered intercepted, too, I think (thanks for the links in another post some days ago!)
Again thank you very much for your insight and your soothing and kind words, please tell me if you are interested in another discussion over synastry another time maybe!

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All Lindaland members are and will continue to enjoy many discussions with you including myself, I am glad you are part of our community.

Yes I feel you about PR, its not everyone's cup of tea haha, I know exactly what you are trying to say about how you feel one on one interactions are a better fit for your overall personality. Any career that involves interacting with others you will be able to put that quintile and sun-dc to good use so is quite a blessing since anything you do in life typically benefits from good people skills.

posted February 28, 2016 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
All Lindaland members are and will continue to enjoy many discussions with you including myself, I am glad you are part of our community.

Yes I feel you about PR, its not everyone's cup of tea haha, I know exactly what you are trying to say about how you feel one on one interactions are a better fit for your overall personality. Any career that involves interacting with others you will be able to put that quintile and sun-dc to good use so is quite a blessing since anything you do in life typically benefits from good people skills.

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posted February 29, 2016 09:22 PM            

We are going to be taking a big risk this year in the Summer and move back to Colorado to get back on track with our lives and let go of some crutches we have depended on during the past few years as a result of a crisis we had.

posted February 29, 2016 09:42 PM            

just reading the OP and the questions I had when I posted.....Nothing happened when TR Nodes went over my natal Pluto. And nothing for him when TR Nodes were on his Moon...

posted February 29, 2016 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
me and my Aries have an exact opposition of Sun- Venus in synastry, and TR Pluto is right now squaring it - my Venus ( Libra) and his Sun ( Aries). It's been brutal!
WE survived a TR Saturn squaring our other Sun-Venus opposition ( we have a DW), but I am not sure about TR Pluto. Pluto is destructive. I can tell you the jealousy is thru the roof now. aahhh.

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posted February 29, 2016 11:10 PM            

I dont know, I am reading about this eclipse and it makes me a little nervous.

There is also a lunar eclipse on March 23 that will affect my Sun and my husband' Sun and Moon.

"A Lunar Eclipse occurs on March 23, 2016, at 3 degrees and 17 minutes of Libra (opposite the Sun in Aries), affecting people born with personal planets and points at approximately 0 to 8 degrees of the Cardinal signs (Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn) and approximately 28 to 30 of the Mutable signs (Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, and Pisces) most significantly."

Well it should be an interesting month.

Feb was kind of sucky, transit saturn has been conjuncting my AC and squaring my mercury. First week of Feb got into a small car accident, later that month got very sick and today I finally feel like this cold is truly going away, it lasted two weeks! and towards the end of the month I twisted my ankle LOL so is like WTH, it has to be saturn on my AC I am thinking. The ankle at least seems to be healing quickly. There is a terrible cold going around though.

Now March! back to healing old wounds, well that seems to be the solar eclipse theme for March 8. Let me check on the Lunar eclipse forecast.

posted March 02, 2016 02:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
btw,

just reading the OP and the questions I had when I posted.....Nothing happened when TR Nodes went over my natal Pluto. And nothing for him when TR Nodes were on his Moon...

My Next thing to watch - TR Nodes on my Vertex, SOON! Vertex is at 18' Virgo-Pisces.

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I have another one. The day I met my ex transit southnode was conjuncting my cupido and quindecile my natal northnode.

And guess what? My cupido sextiles saturn and forms a yod with my chiron at the apex. Hence transit southnode activated my cupido yod and formed a quindecile aspect with my northnode explaining the compulsive nature of that night, how we both ended up there and I felt a compulsion to go up to him and started kissing him but the nature of the yod activated tells you that from the start the fairy tale was destined to end in tragedy and hard lessons but that I would find a way to heal myself. My saturn been in scorpio shows painful lessons revolving around loss, bonding and attachment.

Quindicile transits and aspects to the northnode are powerful stuff!!!

The day I left my previous job and was offered the job I have now transit saturn was on my chart ruler quindecile my northnode. Again every cell of my body was pushing me to leave that job and I felt a strong compulsion to take that risk and leave it.