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Topic: Identifying with your phsyical body
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DopGang
Knowflake Posts: 2016
From: INTJ
Registered: Jun 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 06:53 AM
  
Oh I don't think I answered what you had in mind.  Sorry! I'll have to think about it. Read the question, answered. Read the responses, oops!
I've hardly changed in 15 years! Combine that with my previous answer and I'm just not sure how I feel about it. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 15962
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 02, 2015 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I'm wondering if you ever get moments when you feel like you're "outside of your body, looking at yourself". What with all of your neppy influence. For me, such moments pops up quite often. I remember as a child there were times when I felt as though I were at some higher place, looking down at my own self.
That is so cool!  No, it doesn't happen to me....though, possibly in childhood? I just have a few memories that play like video clips in my mind, and I'm not sure why the "camera" shows what it does. For example, when I busted open my chin around age 5, I was fighting the medical staff to stay away from me (little me with that raw, untamed sun square Pluto energy), so they wrapped me in a kind of straight jacket (hehehehe) and then injected a needle right into the center of my wound. In this memory, I am looking down on myself from above, watching the needle go into my chin, seeing my chin bone actually, watching the doctor's hands. Also seeing the stitches themselves...hmm watching the stitching process. Could be I was just diligently using my imagination and scraps of observation gathered at different times to assemble a cohesive-looking memory...where the stitches I saw in the mirror afterwards now appear as part of the "straightjacket scene".... or those people were dumb enough to put a mirror over me while working on my face... But it's possible I was out of my body, too. Because why do I have an aerial view of this anyway?  quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
It sometimes feels like I have to fight and cling to this body so I don't drift away.
Everything you wrote about this makes perfect sense to me, considering your chart. Your expression "drift away" made me want to listen to the song by the same name.  Only the singer of that song uses rock and roll for antigravity purposes....hey whatever works. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 15962
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 02, 2015 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Ive always felt like I dont have as much impact on the physical world. Like.... I dont need as much sustenance as other people do it seems like, and things just dont really work for me. Like touch screens and those automatic faucets. And I dont really get noticed much. Even when Ive been obnoxious in public noones paid any mind. In class when I raise my hand I feel like I am the most overlooked. I dont know I feel like a ghost. Maybe its my 12th house SN, Im comfortable blending in and hiding away.
That's interesting!! I also realllly like blending in but can also stand out, kinda like an animal playing dead can "magically" come to life and shock people...I go from invisible to visible, and find the change-over refreshing. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 15962
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 02, 2015 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
What's important is that I DEFINITELY feel like a spiritual being in a physical body. Therefore I'm not sure if I identify, or if I'm simply aware. I understand that this is MY physical body.
But for example, if I argue with someone here. It's only if I take time to really think about it, I become aware of the dividing line of my physical, conscious self that is arguing and a higher self which is muted in a way. It's weird and probably I sound crazy.
So glad you figured out a happier way to live, and no you don't sound crazy at all. We can actually observe that happening ~ or at least, I think I can ~ so it's nice to see that your self-awareness matches my perception from the outside. This is quite a spiritual thread, isn't it? I feel a little disjointed because I'm not accustomed to speaking about these kinds of things. IP: Logged |
DopGang
Knowflake Posts: 2016
From: INTJ
Registered: Jun 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 09:24 AM
It is a spiritual thread. I'm glad he made it because it's triggered so many thoughts for me. I could go on and on.
It's good to see other responses too like 12muddy's, Odette's, and others because it really confirms what I feel. It confirms that it's real. IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia
Knowflake Posts: 1909
From: Pandora's Box Tech
Registered: Mar 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 09:56 AM
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Yet, while I love sleeping, I love food, those things still feel like a drag sometimes. They feel like weights on the ankles.
I used to be suicidal mainly because of such things. Feeling so different and that I couldn't find identity in this physical world. I even wrote such things in my notes to those that I would leave behind. That in those moments I felt so exhausted, so weighted down. Having so many needs and having so much pressure to be someone in the physical body was just too much.
EH. I too feel trapped in this body sometimes. I wish eating, drinking and sleeping were an option, not a necessity. And that there was no pain and diseases. Instant regeneration would be welcome too. Someone screwed up when they made this world.------------------
Anomaling around since 1911. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
unregistered
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posted November 02, 2015 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Yet, while I love sleeping, I love food, those things still feel like a drag sometimes. They feel like weights on the ankles.
I used to be suicidal mainly because of such things. Feeling so different and that I couldn't find identity in this physical world. I even wrote such things in my notes to those that I would leave behind. That in those moments I felt so exhausted, so weighted down. Having so many needs and having so much pressure to be someone in the physical body was just too much. Heck it makes me get watery eyed right now.
Wow Ive never met someone else that felt like this. Ive lways felt that it was such a burden to feed myself and force myself to sleep at certain times and have to be awake at other times. It make me feel suicidal because **** how does everyone else live life and I am struggling to make myself eat. IP: Logged |
DopGang
Knowflake Posts: 2016
From: INTJ
Registered: Jun 2015
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posted November 02, 2015 05:15 PM
^^^ Yeah! Everything!
When I realized that I'm not just my body then it was like I found purpose. Like I'm in this body for some purpose. I don't know for what purpose but I DEFINITELY feel like I was placed in this body for something. So I'm just going to ride it out, enjoy it, and live. Then onto whatever is next. IP: Logged |
aah08
Knowflake Posts: 373
From:
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted November 02, 2015 11:02 PM
This is my topic!!
Moon and Virgo rising here.
All my life I have felt completely different in my body. The image I have of myself in my mind, its not the one I see in the mirror. I have always think of myself as a classy, girly girl. But when I look in the mirror I dont see it. All my life has consist of me trying to lose weight, because I am never too skinny.
Maybe because I practiced ballet since i was 3 years old, i developed a specific idea of how i should look.
As someone said above, virgo rising i think it gives an appearance that doesnt stand out? I have mixed feelings about it. Because my 12th sun doesnt like to shine so i kinda am happy with how i look, kinda dont. But there is one thing i am sure of, i want to take care of my body through healthy eating.
Another thing i am sure, is that i definitely dont see myself as the others. When people described me, i feel they are describing someone beautiful, i just dont see it. I want to change that, i want to see myself beautiful.IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
Knowflake Posts: 1530
From: the baseball hall of fame
Registered: Nov 2014
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posted November 03, 2015 05:30 AM
I'm so glad the nodes were brought into this conversation because I knew I'd have to talk about mine, and I'm Always talking about my nodes (sounds funny).When I was a kid, very much in a Picean SN environment and state of mind, I had a regular practice. I'd stare at myself in the mirror until my image, though I could see it, didn't create any reaction in my mind- until I was no longer a distraction. And I'd stare longer into my own eyes, going deeper (almost using my eyes as the window to the soul we speak about). Then I would feel a sense of excitement and surprise. I'd hear "myself" say in awe, "this is me. I'm here". I can't describe the feeling, and I just don't have the words to bring this experience to you in it's full beauty. But that was my soul, new to this world and life, excited about my body because it was a vehicle for living this life's adventures. And now that I have been on the journey for a while, I'm familiar with my tools (physical body) and indeed there is attachment because of the pleasure my tools have brought me. I have a love/love and love/hate relationship with my body as it is. But mostly love. I think I enjoy my physical body so much and more as I get older because I understand that this is an experience and these are my tools. I don't like change, like weight gain, but only because I'm afraid I might lose some enjoyment. Change happens anyway, and I eventually adjust, and then am surprised to find that the change was for the better. I'm not in my 20s. I'm in my 30s. I've gained weight. These sound like bad things, but I feel sexier than ever (not necessarily healthier than ever, but I'm working on that. Coffee...). If when I turn 50 I don't feel as sexy and fit as I do now, then I'm sure there will be something about the changes that will keep me loving the life journey. So no I don't feel like a stranger in my body. I'm enjoying it, and because of the enjoyment there is attachment to what's good and works, but the pros to aging outweigh the cons so far, so as this body ages and changes I'll let go of what goes. How would you define that? Whatever it is I'm thinking my Leo Asc, Taurus Moon, and balance between my Pisces SN, and 2nd house NN share the credit for my perspective.
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