posted November 06, 2015 08:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hi v2t,

Let's not cross like ships in the night. Good morning!

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Hey Love! Guess what? I have a day off!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol. And a weekend!

Good mornin darlin.

posted November 06, 2015 08:47 AM            

Not kidding I actually work, too!....Just having another lazy morning, the calm before the storm.

I edited my answer to you on my "struggling" thread, since I didn't register your meaning at first. Need more Gingko Biloba.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I guess the way people handle pain can be alarming, but the point is to try and identify or recognize it. It helps a lot to find compassion or forgiveness when what makes sense is to stick a fork up their ass.

Oh (edit), and since I've brought up dancing and pain in the same post, let me just add that dancing was a lot of things for me, but it was pain that brought me to it. So again, the way people handle or process hurt and pain can be very unexpected.

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to all of that.

It's just a balance, like everything else...to realize your needs and try to have them met....while recognizing that others' needs are different, and granting them the right to have their needs met.

I read a book by the actress Jill Ireland about her battles with cancer (she wrote this before she died)...her husband, Charles Bronson, was downright negligent. When she said, "I'm starting chemo Monday" his reply was, "Ok, I'm flying out to LA on Monday."

I thought he was the ultimate a$$hole when I read that.......but he had a Scorpio sun, Cancer Pluto, Pisces Uranus grand trine: http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Charles_Bronson

I wonder if the pain of her ordeal was just unbearable for him?

See? He doesn't look so mean.

Who knows....but I'm grateful to astrology because it shows the possible motives underlying actions.

posted November 06, 2015 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Sorry for the such dramatic stories. They really do work great for illustrating my point! I actually, truly love talking about all of these things. My stories, your story. I love getting into the depth. I love unraveling emotion.

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Me too....well this is Scorpio season...and a deep thread. No time like the present.

I could just go on and on, about this.

Edit: as I just demonstrated

posted November 06, 2015 09:41 AM            

In general, people bail out when things get too negative or depressing. It doesn't make them bad, it makes them self-preserving (and yeah, kinda selfish, too).

I can understand that it hurts when someone close to you does that kind of thing, but they probably didn't want to deal with the heaviness. So they put some distance.

Perhaps Harry was afraid that Sally would become too dependent on him for support and presence. And if he has a Gem Moon + Venus conj. Pluto quincunx Saturn, it makes sense he'd bail out. It was too heavy to deal with, and he didn't want to become too involved (cause then you'd be an emotional "burden").

Well that's only my opinion here of course.

I also agree with Faith (men aren't naturally equipped to deal with emotionally complex situations) and DopGang (inability/unwillingness to face pain, even other people's pain).

posted November 06, 2015 09:45 AM            

Sometimes we don't know how to deal with things so we just DON'T deal with them at all.
Like coming across a skunk in my yard or something. I don't know how to deal with the little stink bombs without getting hosed so I just stay away. LOL
(I don't actually get skunks in my yard. I made that up).

Now, how should Sally approach this?

posted November 06, 2015 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I think that it's "simply" a matter of not knowing how to handle hardship and difficult situations, especially emotional ones. And/or not wanting to.

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Sometimes we don't know how to deal with things so we just DON'T deal with them at all.

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I've often felt this way, especially as a Capricorn with a private 8H moon. Normally I look to my emotions for guidance on how to address an emotional situation, but in extreme situations, with extreme emotions....

It's a serious challenge to express them.

posted November 06, 2015 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Can this be a Gemini Moon thing (on the dark side of the placement)?
Acting like your evil twin did it?

"It's either someone else's fault, or it was my evil twin, or - it never happened!"

^ Is it Gemini?
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No. I suppose you could blame my Aries, but I will own up if something is my fault.

I have distanced myself when I feel overwhelmed, but I empathize and have put my own feelings aside, even when upset with someone, if they needed me. When mum was in really bad shape, and scared me, I had to be outside, and would run back in to check on her, make sure she was still breathing. I had a lot of anger about how she got there, and what had happened to me, but I couldn't abandon her. If I'd just stayed by her bed all day, I would have been too heavy with grief, thinking the worst. I had to keep busy - and I get that from her (or I used to).

I noticed a lot of people turning against me, when I was in seriously bad shape. I don't think it's something to do with any one sign. I think that empathy can turn to the complete opposite and a "pull yourself together" attitude. It's either that, or fear, that I think of in these situations. I have a lot of anger from being blamed for so much, when something wasn't my fault (and it still happens) - people fell into line like dominoes, got angry and either disappeared, or insulted me over and over. Not everyone ( - for those who didn't, if any of them are here).

As for Aries, Gemini, etc... I need to back off and get myself together, so that someone else isn't adding to my own stuff that I'm carrying around, and so that I don't unload on them. I need space, so that I can be there for you in the way that you need me to be (general "you"). And in a way that doesn't drive me crazy - but I think that's true of everyone.

posted November 12, 2015 10:59 PM            

I've been wanting to reply on this thread.. for a few days now, but every time I went to type a post - I stopped myself.

In my OP I needed to spill/talk about what happened, in my own cryptic way... because I just had to get this off my chest. I was pretty angry. I even sprained my neck when I hung up on him, the other day - because I threw my phone against a wall :\

I'm all good now though! I actually realised that this is really something I want to leave in the past - and not discuss anymore, in my present. This is all 'yesterday' for me. He's just not a part of my life anymore - nor do I want him to be.

I'm bumping the thread because - I really wanted to thank you all for being there for me and giving me such amazing help and advice and sharing your stories. It means a great deal to me and you guys helped me a lot!

posted November 12, 2015 11:11 PM            

I am actually a Gemini Moon lover. My mum and a best friend of mine have this also.

So I was purely referring to a potentially "negative" side of Gemini (being duplicitous)...
It's not something I generally see with Gemini Moon.

posted November 13, 2015 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
^ Sorry!

I am actually a Gemini Moon lover. My mum and a best friend of mine have this also.

So I was purely referring to a potentially "negative" side of Gemini (being duplicitous)...
It's not something I generally see with Gemini Moon.

It's just him really. I don't want to blame astrological aspects anymore.
He simply did the wrong thing. He will not acknowledge it - and I'm done. And that's that.

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