posted November 07, 2015 02:33 PM            

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posted November 07, 2015 05:43 PM            

BUT...

You've got to look at the details of the chart and not just one or two sign placements. I'm talking about the entire chart including houses and aspects. Everyone remembers actor Robin Williams as an extroverted and completely over the top comedian. Only his chart is full of feminine signs... He was a triple water sign person with Scorpio Asc, Cancer Sun, and Pisces Moon! The secret to his over-the-topness was not in his sign placements at all.

He had Uranus conjunct Mars by 1 degree (hyperactive for sure). This Uranus/Mars conjunction was also tightly square his Aries Jupiter so his hyper nature became even more exaggerated. On top of that, the Mars/Uranus conjunction was tightly trine his Moon, and sextile his Venus, as well. That's probably what made him so well liked, and what made him appear so accessible to others. The Mars/Uranus conjunction trined his Asc too.

Robin Williams also had Mercury in Leo. Which by itself is nothing remarkable. There are plenty of people out there with Leo Mercury that don't have quite the same level of showmanship that Williams had. But in his case his Leo Mc is exactly conjunct his Leo Mercury which brought it out into public awareness. It also explains his motormouth comedy style (along with his Mars/Uranus conjunction hyperness). All of this from a guy that has Sun, Moon, Asc, Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Uranus, all in feminine signs! Only Mercury, Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto were in masculine signs in his chart.

Robin William's natal chart

I also agree with the post made by Aquaguy.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Here's my take on those of you who say people don't match their charts. I think you go looking for these dramatic stereotypes like the loud and vain Leo or the feminist aquarius with blue hair and when you don't see those you say "oh! They don't seem like an Aquarius or Leo". I see this done with Aquarius all the time and it annoys the crap out of me because I'm a double aquarius. I have even had a few people on this very forum say I don't seem like an Aquarius because I am anti-feminist. That's ludicrous because being a feminist is lamestream these days and aquas usually go against the grain and are Rebels. And it's the same with the outlandish clothes and styles! That stuff is fashionable and aquas like being different. I once had an older Aquarius man tell me that he used to wear earrings until it became fashionable for men to wear earrings. I think some of you miss the forest for the trees when you are trying to stereotype signs.

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People often match the themes of their chart in subtle psychological ways. Not all Leo's are the class clown, and not all Virgo's are reserved librarians.

Personally, I find that just about everybody I ever studied astrologically does match their natal chart if you look properly. If a person has a chart loaded with feminine signs but they have a crazy rebellious, or outgoing streak, maybe they have strong aspects in their chart involving Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, and the Sun is some combo. Or maybe they have a stellium in an outgoing house, like the 5th... Famous country singer Dolly Parton comes across as very Leo-ish to me. She has Virgo Moon, Virgo Asc, and a stellium in Capricorn. But the Cap stellium sits in her 5th house. She also has Uranus conjunct the Mc, and Jupiter square Venus (if anybody remembers she used to be famous for her extraordinarily large breast implants. Now that really fits the exaggerated femininity of a Venus/Jupiter square).

Dolly Parton's natal chart

It's also true that you sometimes find super introverted types with a chart full of masculine signs. Aspects and house placements often explain this. The elemental qualities will still be there even if they are quiet though. The Air signs will still be objective and intellectual, and the fire signs will still be passionate and idealistic. It just may take a while to get to know them, and see that side if they have a serious Saturn, a secretive Pluto, a shy cautious Moon influence, or even an escapist private Neptune influence, toning them down. Stelliums in the 12th, 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 8th houses will increase a tendency towards privacy and security as well.

So if a person happens to be meeting a bunch of crazy out-there feminine signs, or a bunch of stand-offish masculine signs, a detailed look at the natal charts of these people will reveal why this is so. But elements of the person's chart will always find expression somehow. The quiet Fire and Air signs often have interests, ideologies, and vocations, that reflect their charts.

posted November 07, 2015 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I was going to post something like this last weekend. I love synchronicity (when it's in a good or neutral situation). I've just remembered the thread that I started early this year.

Aries isn't always on the warpath.
Gemini isn't untrustworthy.
Scorpio isn't cruel.

Mercury in Aries is generally polite. Since my brain is so messed up now, that isn't always the case, and 39 years of politeness apparently doesn't make up for the last year of "I don't give a **** anymore". People will assume it's the you that's just been waiting to come out, when it's actually because of all of the poison that's been thrown your way for too long.

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... That last paragraph is beautiful. And such a struggle when in retrograde in natal. It's like it's a spontaneous combustion verbally and everyone cheers and moves on to what they have to say. Or, just dead silence. And, repeat, repeat, repeat.

Thank you for post and response.

posted November 08, 2015 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Most people I meet actually fit their astrological chart so well, it's uncanny.

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posted November 08, 2015 10:39 AM            

Just casually dropping in after a very long absence. (Who said Leos have to make a dramatic entrance? )

But my Leo ASC feels like saying Hi!!!!!!

posted November 08, 2015 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Well look at you!!

Just casually dropping in after a very long absence. (Who said Leos have to make a dramatic entrance? )

But my Leo ASC feels like saying Hi!!!!!!

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posted November 08, 2015 12:34 PM            

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posted November 08, 2015 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I meant what I said.

You are perfectly entitled to your own view, based on your experience.
It just happens to be different from mine.
And I don't think my view is narrow-minded, I think it is realistic (again, based on personal observation).

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So you've never met someone that didnt fit major aspects of their chart or did you change the reality to fit the chart?

Why not quote my entire post?

posted November 08, 2015 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
So you've never met someone that didnt fit major aspects of their chart or did you change the reality to fit the chart?

Why not quote my entire post?

Why not vedic? Seems like it could be more accurate based on fixed stars and not the relative position of them from our vantage point on earth.

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I just wanted to put in my opinion. You might not match everything in your chart at certain times in your life. Certain things may be more relevant to you at very pin-point times and very vague times. It just depends. Some aspects you grow into, especially independence aspects. You cannot be materially independent as a child, but many people have monetary independence aspects in their charts meaning they grow into this type of person. Other aspects involving the 4th house are more about childhood, parents and the way you grew up.

Astrology is a wonderful jumbled mess. You just have to decode it to get the proper meaning.

However, I do agree that astrology is sort of your fate, you can change attitudes according to negative things, but you will still have to constantly fight against them. Somethings in life are inevitable.

posted November 08, 2015 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Here's my take on those of you who say people don't match their charts. I think you go looking for these dramatic stereotypes like the loud and vain Leo or the feminist aquarius with blue hair and when you don't see those you say "oh! They don't seem like an Aquarius or Leo". I see this done with Aquarius all the time and it annoys the crap out of me because I'm a double aquarius. I have even had a few people on this very forum say I don't seem like an Aquarius because I am anti-feminist. That's ludicrous because being a feminist is lamestream these days and aquas usually go against the grain and are Rebels. And it's the same with the outlandish clothes and styles! That stuff is fashionable and aquas like being different. I once had an older Aquarius man tell me that he used to wear earrings until it became fashionable for men to wear earrings. I think some of you miss the forest for the trees when you are trying to stereotype signs.

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Or your could be grapsing at straws.

Most of the aquas I've met are very conservative. I've met I think..... ONE that was a true rebel. You cant label every outlandish person as an aqua because people aren't ruled by their charts. A uranus or aqua influence will not always make someone a crazy blue haired rebel.

Also, feminism IS progressive, it IS going against the grain. I.... I dont even know what to say. I know it seems lamestream because all the cool kids are doing it but in the GRAND GRAND GRAND scheme of history and all that lame stuff, it IS going against the "lamestream."

Also I dont know where you live but In most of America, they frown on outlandish fashion as well, so... GENERALLY it IS against the grain. As opposed to like... down home dirt road back road blue jeans and baseball cap.

posted November 08, 2015 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I just wanted to put in my opinion. You might not match everything in your chart at certain times in your life. Certain things may be more relevant to you at very pin-point times and very vague times. It just depends. Some aspects you grow into, especially independence aspects. You cannot be materially independent as a child, but many people have monetary independence aspects in their charts meaning they grow into this type of person. Other aspects involving the 4th house are more about childhood, parents and the way you grew up.

Astrology is a wonderful jumbled mess. You just have to decode it to get the proper meaning.

However, I do agree that astrology is sort of your fate, you can change attitudes according to negative things, but you will still have to constantly fight against them. Somethings in life are inevitable.

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But isn't that diluting the whole point and making ti more in line with what the thread creator said?

posted November 08, 2015 06:11 PM            

But I feel it has something to do with the unusual as well