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Mergoatsun
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posted November 08, 2015 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a continuation of the Iconic Black Individual's Sun Signs. Unfortunately, I believe astrology is very white-centric and I would like to showcase some iconic and influential black people, along with their rising signs. Rising sign descriptions are heavily weighted towards white or white-euro-centric qualities so the purpose of this thread is to squash that and to showcase rising sign qualities in black people. You can truly see similarities in looks and maybe I'll post rising sign descriptions for every race. Also, please feel free to name a person with their rising sign and I'll add them to the list!

Aries Rising:
Sammy Davis Jr.
Rihanna
Chris Rock
Louis Armstrong
Shaq

Taurus Rising:
Martin Luther King JR.
Halle Berry
Angela Davis
Serena Williams
Queen Latifah

Gemini Rising:
Rupaul
Morgan Freeman
LeBron James
Willow Smith
Miles Davis

Cancer Rising:
Tyra Banks
Vanessa Williams
Michael Jordan
Lisa Bonet
Marvin Gaye

Leo Rising:
Tina Turner
Will Smith
Maya Angelou
Muhammad Ali
Dorothy Dandridge
Beyoncé (*edited* she is indeed a Leo Rising)

Virgo Rising:
Jay-Z
Tiger Woods
Usher
Donna Summer
Blue Ivy Carter (It will be interesting to see how her looks progress as she gets older that's why I included her)

Libra Rising (my person sign as well):
Denzel Washington
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Stevie Wonder
Raven-Symoné

Scorpio Rising:
Prince
Janet Jackson
Diana Ross
Aretha Franklin
Chuck Berry

Sagittarius Rising:
Oprah Winfrey
Nelson Mandela
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Marley
Alicia Keys
Arsenio Hall

Capricorn Rising:
Naomi Campbell
Lenny Kravitz
Malcolm X
Dennis Rodman
Rosa Parks

Aquarius Rising:
Barack Obama
Nicki Minaj
Aaliyah
Billie Holiday
Whoopi Goldberg

Pisces Rising:
Michael Jackson
Whitney Houston
Pharrell Williams
Herbie Hancock
Richard Pryor

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233321.html

The link above is from GeminiYoungster and it also discusses the bias theme.
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Leo Moon
Aqua Merc
Aqua Venus
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Libra Rising
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Geminiyoungster
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posted November 08, 2015 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love, love, this series of threads. I made a thread awhile back about bias behavior behind race in astrology..
And also, Who new beyonce was a Libra rising, like me haha!

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posted November 08, 2015 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
I love, love, this series of threads. I made a thread awhile back about bias behavior behind race in astrology..
And also, Who new beyonce was a Libra rising, like me haha!

I'm a libra rising too, and I was so happy when I saw Beyonce there. I've noticed the huge bias in race with astrology too, do you have a link to your thread? I want to link it with these ones

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posted November 12, 2015 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Beyonce was Leo rising. That was so the last time I checked her chart years ago.

@Mergoatsun, are you going solely by Astrotheme in determining ascendant? I see they are using IMDB as a source of information.

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posted November 12, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Until I see proof that someone checked Beyonce's birth certificate and confirmed time making her Libra rising, I am going to go with Leo rising for her. Why?

The big hair. the "Queen Bee" moniker. The visually odd pairing with Jay Z (7th house Aqua), are more fitting with Leo rising.

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posted November 12, 2015 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
I thought Beyonce was Leo rising. That was so the last time I checked her chart years ago.

@Mergoatsun, are you going solely by Astrotheme in determining ascendant? I see they are using IMDB as a source of information.


Yes I was using that site. I can see that other sites also say she's a Leo rising. I can totally see that. She does have her Mars in Leo. I think you may be right about this, astrotheme has known to be unreliable before

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posted November 12, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Astrotheme is a great site, but not always reliable when it comes to ascendants.

Did y'all see Sammy Davis Jr as Aries Ascendant? I would have never guessed this one. Sometimes, if a sign doesn't seem to fit, I look at the sign before or the one after to see if they fit better. In his case, I think Pisces rising fits better.

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posted November 12, 2015 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Rising sign descriptions are heavily weighted towards white or white-euro-centric qualities so the purpose of this thread is to squash that and to showcase rising sign qualities in black people. You can truly see similarities in looks and maybe I'll post rising sign descriptions for every race.

Great great potential for learning and honing our skills as astrologers. How do we go about it?

Do you see any racial similarity that is not covered with white-euro centric qualities in the people of Aries rising, for instance?

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posted November 12, 2015 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Great great potential for learning and honing our skills as astrologers. How do we go about it?

Do you see any racial similarity that is not covered with white-euro centric qualities in the people of Aries rising, for instance?


I agree this has big potential! Might I ask for help with rewording the ascendant descriptions for the signs? It's a big job and one I really would like to do, but I have been very ill lately and I would not be able to put this out in a timely fashion.

Personally when I find websites like this http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.com/astrological-signs.html#axzz3rKFPlOxb

I get upset and overwhelmed because it's so biased towards anglo-saxon people. Would anyone be willing to help me create a thread with differences of the rising signs?

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posted November 12, 2015 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I agree this has big potential! Might I ask for help with rewording the ascendant descriptions for the signs? It's a big job and one I really would like to do, but I have been very ill lately and I would not be able to put this out in a timely fashion.

Personally when I find websites like this http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.com/astrological-signs.html#axzz3rKFPlOxb

I get upset and overwhelmed because it's so biased towards anglo-saxon people. Would anyone be willing to help me create a thread with differences of the rising signs?



This is my first time checking out this particular website, and yes, their descriptions tend to be slanted toward an european ideal.

Since western astrology was developed mostly by people of European descent, it makes sense that they would use the people around them to establish the astrological correspondence.

I think the information it gives is still very valuable, and we have to learn how to adapt it or how it relates to people of color, and its quite possible the work will have to be done by POC.

By the way, we have a very good astrologer here Kannon Mcafee who also has ascendant descriptions on his site, you might want to check it out. He has included non whites in his examples.
https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/

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posted November 12, 2015 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
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This is my first time checking out this particular website, and yes, their descriptions tend to be slanted toward an european ideal.

Since western astrology was developed mostly by people of European descent, it makes sense that they would use the people around them to establish the astrological correspondence.

I think the information it gives is still very valuable, and we have to learn how to adapt it or how it relates to people of color, and its quite possible the work will have to be done by POC.

By the way, we have a very good astrologer here Kannon Mcafee who also has ascendant descriptions on his site, you might want to check it out. He has included non whites in his examples.
https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/rising-signs-2/

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Woah, that was the best site I've ever seen with respects to rising signs. That had everything I've wanted to say all wrapped up! My problem derived from constantly seeing descriptions from sites like the one I linked above. Thank you for this link! I am going to start using it (:

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posted November 12, 2015 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am always in awe when astrologers give precise description of features for particular ascendants. Like wide set jaw or prominent forehead, etc... For instance, Kannon McAfee on his website lists this as one of the traits of Aries rising:

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Sometimes the jawbone juts out from the face before tapering to the chin, breaking the usual rounded ovate outline.

If you look at Sammy Davis Jr. his face does fit this particular trait so maybe he is Aries rising after all.

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posted November 12, 2015 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I agree. I have never identified (lookwise) with my rising sign before but this website nailed it! It hit me and my Libra rising nature to a tee.

I also want to point out that my SO is Mexican-American and a cancer rising it hit his description to a tee as well.

As well as my Father's description (he's an Aries rising). He's Sicilian so I was impressed to see it hit the nail on the head. My Jewish descent mother and grandmother I was especially curious about and it hit the nail on the head for them as well! My mother is a Sag rising and my grandmother is a Scorpio rising

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posted November 12, 2015 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rupaul is a Gemini Rising and Scorpio moon like myself

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posted November 12, 2015 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
Rupaul is a Gemini Rising and Scorpio moon like myself

Very cool! Gemini rising are cool people. My best friend is a gem rising and my ex is gemini rising, both very sassy and fun!

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posted November 14, 2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
I'm a libra rising too, and I was so happy when I saw Beyonce there. I've noticed the huge bias in race with astrology too, do you have a link to your thread? I want to link it with these ones


Sorry for the late reply, i bumped it up for you!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233321.html

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posted November 14, 2015 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What rising sign do you think The Weeknd (Abel Tesfaye) is? I may be wrong but I believe hes a Cap with Scorpio moon...love that combo, explains the dark and bleak mood of his older music which was (imo) more true to himself.

EDIT I was wrong..he is an Aquarius but has Scorp moon and Cap Venus/Mars. Knew that combo was in there somwhere

But that crazy hair style..dude looks like a palm tree LOL but it is very unique and he owns that style. Paired with the dark colors and leather he wears, boots, etc...and he has a very pleasing face. Not traditionally handsome but still nice to look at nonetheless. My guess is Cancer rising. Round face, plump cheeks, soft look to his face, big round watery eyes.

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posted November 14, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you find Arsenio Hall. I am in love with him!

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posted November 14, 2015 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Did you find Arsenio Hall. I am in love with him!


Astrotheme has him listed as a Sagittarius rising.

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posted November 14, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Astrotheme has him listed as a Sagittarius rising.

Thanks LaceyLeigh, I was just about to look him up!

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posted November 14, 2015 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
What rising sign do you think The Weeknd (Abel Tesfaye) is? I may be wrong but I believe hes a Cap with Scorpio moon...love that combo, explains the dark and bleak mood of his older music which was (imo) more true to himself.

[b]EDIT I was wrong..he is an Aquarius but has Scorp moon and Cap Venus/Mars. Knew that combo was in there somwhere

But that crazy hair style..dude looks like a palm tree LOL but it is very unique and he owns that style. Paired with the dark colors and leather he wears, boots, etc...and he has a very pleasing face. Not traditionally handsome but still nice to look at nonetheless. My guess is Cancer rising. Round face, plump cheeks, soft look to his face, big round watery eyes.[/B]


I totally agree! I can see the Cancer rising as well, it's very much there, but for some reason to me he radiates a warmth, almost a red tone which makes me wonder if he has fire anywhere in his chart. I definitely do think he's a Cancer rising.

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posted November 14, 2015 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget to add the r&b singer Brandy to the Libra rising list.. She was once Americas sweetheart..

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