posted November 11, 2015 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sly

I have no problem with anyone or different views, as long as people are respectful which you are!

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posted November 11, 2015 01:00 PM            

Yep, people can disagree but not be disagreeable

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posted November 12, 2015 08:40 AM            

A lot of stuff I've had to bury in my childhood coming back to haunt me (thanks tr. Saturn in the 4th). Worst transit so far. Putting aside the transit, home has always been very psychologically messed up -- parents minds filled with paranoia and ignorance. Rarely anything uttered. It sucks being so perceptive but because of it, I've always known (from a very young age) when to lie and protect myself from others supposedly "good" influence. Very easy for me to spot an agenda.

Do not kid yourself into ever thinking you know the full story about a person with this placement (even if you have it too). The web of conflict only seems to get more complicated as time passes. I've noticed a lot of self righteous, intellectual types try to label me and get it wrong always -- its pretty amusing. Truth can set you free but also screw you over with this placement it seems, since everyone has a version of it.

To ramble some more (sorry lol) during my current saturn transit, my old neighborhood (that my family moved back into) is literally being destroyed! Contractors bought out the place. Though this was in the works for years, it was triggered when tr. Saturn passed over my Pluto-IC and thank God for that. My mothers Gemini south node was letting us roost here. Combined with my Scorpio NN in 3rd house, its a really interesting transit.

To add something positive to the doom and gloom, I've noticed through a lot of digging deep into myself that I'm becoming emotionally resilent and strong. Family, yes, I am really getting on top of it, though its quite draining. I use my strength to help but I can't help that it is often to the detriment of my being. Synthesizing my chart has made me less bitter about it. This placement calls for a lot of honesty and change. It can be taxing but if you value the change and understand it - it can be really rewarding.

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posted November 13, 2015 12:39 AM            

If someone's child has it, I would suggest teaching them resilience, strength of personal convictions, good articulation skills, but also do not skimp on making them feel safe, nurtured, loved.

posted November 13, 2015 05:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Bear9:
I have it.

If someone's child has it, I would suggest teaching them resilience, strength of personal convictions, good articulation skills, but also do not skimp on making them feel safe, nurtured, loved.

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I have it 3* from my IC, and I think that this is incredibly good advice. My parents did moreorless teach me these (although I seemed to hop the first two and had to learn them, painfully, later. My siblings are both good for them, though, so I assume it was me and not my parents!)