posted November 26, 2015 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
@StubbornVirgos

I actually like Virgos too! They're quiet, and that makes me feel like I'm self absorbed since I'll make up for it by monopolizing a convo in a way, but Virgos often surprise me with their vulgarity and wit. I also believe they're more empathic than Pisces, and Pisces is just more compassionate than Virgo.

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Oh, but you guys aren't self-absorbed! At least I don't see it that way. Virgos can be so shy to take the first step. We really do appreciate people who initiate conversations and even direct the conversation. Besides, earth signs are not lacking backbones...if they have something to say, they will usually speak up.

posted December 11, 2015 11:55 AM            

I have Aries in the 9H, with Aries Jupiter there. So these people speak to me.

Well, literally. I listen to Rick Levine's horoscopes almost every single day. He's incredible, I cannot get over how accurate his readings are. I'm going to feel so lost when he dies. I have codependency issues with him. LOL
http://stariq.com/pagetemplate/main.asp

posted December 11, 2015 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Faith, that's awesome! I've been hunting for a new astrologer! What are your experiences with other Arians?

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Oh gosh where do I even begin....

Well, I have two Aries brothers, Sag moon and Pisces moon. The Sag moon has his sun exactly square mine, exactly on my Jupiter. He's seven years older than me and even though our relationship was rocky, I absolutely hero-worshipped him when I was little: "Oh if only I could be as smart, cool, funny, good-looking & popular as him!!!"

(No offense to my other Aries brother...but his Pisces moon is so obvious. I already was like him.)

Anyway. Time after time Aries people have had a serious impact on me. When I lived in London I went on a simple historical tour, given by a famous Aries lecturer, that was so amazing...he changed my life. Specifically it was his stories about a Jewish rabbi, given in an old, decrepit, secret synagogue, that sparked my interest in religion, for the first time in my life. This was a stepping stone to future decisions, including my choice of husband.

Another Aries who shaped me is Dane Rudhyar. When I was coming out of my religious phase, Rudhyar's work was indispensable. 'Hard to explain because my thinking had gotten all weird...but I needed something genius, and he supplied it.

Various other Aries come to mind but I think you get the gist...basically it's the CLARITY of Aries that helps me through my foggy Neptunian life, it's like a beacon to me, lighting the way forward.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Do you think you have positive experiences specifically because of Jupiter in Aries (hence well have good experiences with whatever sign our Juliter is in)

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posted December 11, 2015 02:36 PM              

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Originally posted by athenaia:

Hanna.. where to begin? Aries is on the cusp of my 8th house so I guess I always find them to be incredibly mysterious and difficult to truly comprehend (not in a bad way, they're just strangely elusive to me? My fire singleton is a Venus in Aries so I thought that would give me an advantage but it's hard to say)

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Oh geez, do you find it hard to quit them? Are you obsessed with merging with them, being their favorite? Capricorn is on my 8th and that's how I feel. I have an earthy moon that doesn't help either!

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Being a cardinal sign... do you think that lends to "consistency" in whatever they're passion about?

I have a super fixed chart so I'm stating that question from that perspective.. do you think Aries are more prone to endorsing longevity in their lives as opposed to mutable signs?

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I don't know why this question is tripping me up. Uhh, let's see if this makes sense: what I'm hearing you ask is "Do Aries / cardinal signs stick with things longer because they're an Aries / Cardinal sign". If that's correct then the answer is definitely not, and any element will stick to whatever they like because they like it but WHAT we all like is probably different. For example I know a Virgo Sun Sagittarius Moon who's been a lifelong traveler. She has Venus in Libra and Mars in Cancer too. Me?! NOOO. I'm an Aries Sun, Taurus Moon with Venus in Aries and Mars conj. ASC. In comparison I like going places as long as I can come straight back home. I go to and fro all over the place but I will always want to be able to get back to my literal house. No wanderer's spirit here.

OR by consistency do you mean 'focus'? To me they're different, one meaning is talking about time and how long they're interested in something, but focus means the intensity in which they're interested in it. In that case an Aries will be much more focused and passionate their passions than a fixed or mutable sign. Now sure, you might see evidence of what each respective element is passionate about but as far as the individual person that'll vary, and Aries will be the one who gets visibly excited and amped up. On a day to day basis Aries will get bored with something, but if you give them a break and then bring it back they'll be just as excited.

I HOPE that makes sense and is line with your question. Sometimes my brain works too fast for me.

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The famous Aries "temper tantrum" - it appears as intensely as quickly as it fizzes out. Whenever you get upset, what would you say is the best technique to support you? Would you need someone to fan away the flames or just patiently wait out your mood?

I'll definitely think of more questions soon if you don't mind your brain getting picked at by me lol

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I normally only get upset at people, not circumstances. If I've had a stressful day where I had a bunch of little things go wrong, I just need to vent and laugh about it. Laughter and self-awareness goes a long way with a good Aries, me thinks. We like people who can check themselves and who tell us we're right, no matter how small. When arguing with a friend or loved one though every Aries I've come across has needed distance to cool off before being able to come back.

posted December 11, 2015 02:46 PM              

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think those people are objectively amazing but my Jupiter there amplifies my enthusiasm and compels me to use what they are saying and doing, as a role model, to advance myself spiritually and philosophically. I know it doesn't really show yet. I'm working on it...

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I don't blame you about the Sag moon! They have that effect and they know it. Pisces influence will definitely caaaaaalm an Aries down! Probably one the most emotional people you'll ever meet though, and old souls too.

I'm glad you mentioned your role models (yeah?) because it's exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to Aries! Aries have all these crazy ideas that get completely glossed the f... over in mainstream astrology (or real life depending on who you ask) but they're absolutely amazing at what they do and are passionate about. It's ironic because on one hand the astro community is taught how expressive Aries is, but they're the same ones who stifle them in a way. Long rant short, we're more out of the box type of thinkers than is mentioned.

Religion is so interesting too! Must be the 12th house influence. Do you know a lot about Kabbalah? I have a book that's about love written from the Kabbalah perspective, and I remember this one segment that stuck with me forever: they were talking about how the word "love" is thrown around so much it's meaning is misunderstood. Like how people will say "I love Lady Gaga!" (quick example, didn't even realize she's an Aries lol) but we don't ACTUALLY love her. We love what she creates. Similarly when you say "I love salmon," you don't love the salmon. You love what salmon can DO for you. Idk. Really interesting and didn't know if you'd read similar things.

posted December 11, 2015 05:32 PM            

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I'm glad you mentioned your role models (yeah?) because it's exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to Aries! Aries have all these crazy ideas that get completely glossed the f... over in mainstream astrology (or real life depending on who you ask) but they're absolutely amazing at what they do and are passionate about. It's ironic because on one hand the astro community is taught how expressive Aries is, but they're the same ones who stifle them in a way. Long rant short, we're more out of the box type of thinkers than is mentioned.

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posted December 21, 2015 01:01 AM              

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Okay I can *finally* respond back to this masterpiece! Thank you so much for your perspective Hanna, trust that it has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated

I've been thinking on what you've said and it all resonates really strongly with my experiences with Arian folk. My mom is a Pisces Sun/Aries Moon and one of my mentors has an Aries Sun/Aries Moon so it's certainly a sign I associate with "forward movement" in my life!

I associate Aries with "purity" which a lot of people (maybe due to their experiences) round off to "childishness" or "immaturity" - but there's a holiness to purity that rarely gets underscored with the Arian archetype.

Holiness in that..
☻ Aries deeply, deeply value integrity and transparency in all things - oftentimes people that are huge supporters of "social niceties" don't realize how beating around the bush with etiquette won't solve a problem. Aries seeks to remove the middleman in this equation and it can be typed as "brutish" by those who don't understand the desire for truth beneath the intent.
☻ There is a strong, ethical backbone in most (if not all) of the Aries I've dealt with
☻ A strong respect for individuality and not blending into the background just to appease the (sometimes mindless) peace of "groupthink"
☻ Protectiveness as a huge indicator of affection/love!
☻ They very much embody "goodness" that emanates them at their best ("goodness" in line with holiness - a note that a lot of Aries-influenced people I've met have been quite religious!)
☻ More then any other sign, Aries are very "present" in the moment with you and are not making calculations in the back of their mind as a conversation goes on.

Do you think some of this is true based on your life?

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Thank you so much athenaia!

First, I really like the way you write! If you aren't pursuing writing of any kind, you should. It'd work out in your favor I'm sure.

Yes, all of that's true! Especially those who aren't bossed around easy. An Aries will like you if they can boss you around, but they'll respect you AND like you if you stand up to their bossiness too. It's a weird balance but it probably comes down to Aries' belief in themselves and that projected belief onto others. They want to know you respect yourself because you're an extension of them... if that makes sense.

They are good hearted people! Every sign can / is good hearted but I've never known an Aries who had bad intentions from the start like some other signs. They will even a score and leave it at that (their ethics!) unless you poke the bear again, because we're not Martians if we're not highly reactive lol.

What got me here is valuing integrity. I don't know if that's true for me, surprisingly. Do I respect people who have it? Of course! And I try to return it with the same fervor, but I'm more impressed by cleverness, really...because then it becomes a game and Aries' love games (within a reason and as long as it's not to manipulate us) That's me personally, but I can definitely see two Aries in my life who value that, and transparency. Coincidentally they also have Sagittarius moons which could be an even heavier factor.

posted December 21, 2015 04:29 AM              

I'm a Gemini sun and Aries Moon and Mars. I love laughing and witty/cheeky banter. On the flip side,
I'm very quick to make decisions and call things as I see them, that doesn't mean that I haven't given any thought to what I'm doing, but what I would say is that perhaps my Scorpio Ascendant makes me think the worst and that's usually what I go with.
I'm VERY passionate about projects and about my family, my Aries moon and Aries Mars are conjunct in my 5th house. I can go from the nicest person you've ever seen to a RAM when it comes to my family.
That said, I am quite sensitive and pretty deep - Loyal too. I cannot stand hidden agendas or things being presented in a way that is misleading! I definitely think Aries get a tough time.

posted December 21, 2015 04:37 AM              

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We're definitely misunderstood, but with that being said... I do think it depends on your other placements.

I'm the youngest of three, Gemini sun and Aries Moon and Mars.
I'm very quick to make decisions and call things as I see them, that doesn't mean that I haven't given any thought to what I'm doing, but what I would say is that perhaps my Scorpio Ascendant makes me think the worst and that's usually what I go with.
I'm VERY passionate about projects and about my family, my Aries moon and Aries Mars are conjunct in my 5th house. I can go from the nicest person you've ever seen to a RAM when it comes to my family.
That said, I am quite sensitive and pretty deep - Loyal too. I cannot stand hidden agendas or things being presented in a way that is misleading! I definitely think Aries get a tough time.

My bottom line is, don't ******** me and have some respect. As long as that's all good, I'm all good.

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posted December 21, 2015 01:15 PM              

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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
immature aries-influenced individuals are childlike in their behavior from what I've seen. They act like selfish spoiled brats with an aggressive attitude. But then again, I'm Scorpio and Saturn influenced and Aries rules my 12th house with mars in my 7th so I probably don't have a good grip on martian energy to begin with so maybe my answer isn't the best choice,

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posted December 23, 2015 12:19 AM              

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Originally posted by karenkellybella:
Great thread! Yes, as a double Aries, I've often felt that my sun sign description was over simplified, but aren't they all?

I have sun opp Pluto and Mars in 12th so I always figured that was why I don't seem like the typical Aries sun/moon/Mercury.

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What are the other Aries people you know like?

posted April 24, 2020 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:
Oversimplified, much so... and people think we are hiding our abrasive Aries side... I'll admit I've become more bold with age, because people don't allow you to be shy, quiet etc, in general and you have to become stronger and braver in life as you grow... . But it's not natural - it has been effort and struggle... I've always identified with Piscean traits more than Arian... I suppose I should be happy to have access to some of the typical Arian nature as needed...

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Do you have any personal planets in Pisces? Any 12th House placements?!

posted April 24, 2020 01:12 PM            

I wrote a long email last night, just to get out how I’m feeling, ready to be edited in the future, so that I can talk about something without “spewing”. Since some people see a powder keg, I guess I was just letting some of it out, so that I *won’t* blow. I don’t know many of us who do.

There are people whose motivations I will never understand, but that isn’t a sign thing.

posted April 24, 2020 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
There are people whose motivations I will never understand, but that isn’t a sign thing.

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