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Topic: Aries people - misunderstood.
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hannaramaa unregistered
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posted November 23, 2015 03:44 PM
Do any of the Aries here feel more complex than textbooks describe, or that you're a deeper person than people realize? In my opinion Aries are misrepresented in astrology as being very light hearted and childish (and all these other things). Wanted to know how other Aries felt about it.IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 6847 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted November 23, 2015 05:31 PM
Hmmm.... It's hard to say whether Aries energy in and of itself - makes a person deep. Maybe passionate, but not necessarily "deep". I've met shallow and deep people with varied Sun signs. The Moon seems like the best indication of where a person is at on an emotional level and the extent of their psychological complexity. This is even more obvious in women. Hannah - Having Moon opposite Pluto in Taurus/Scorpio, you were never going to be light-hearted, regardless of your Sun placement! IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 06:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Hmmm.... It's hard to say whether Aries energy in and of itself - makes a person deep. Maybe passionate, but not necessarily "deep". I've met shallow and deep people with varied Sun signs. The Moon seems like the best indication of where a person is at on an emotional level and the extent of their psychological complexity. This is even more obvious in women. Hannah - Having Moon opposite Pluto in Taurus/Scorpio, you were never going to be light-hearted, regardless of your Sun placement!
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posted November 23, 2015 06:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Hmmm.... It's hard to say whether Aries energy in and of itself - makes a person deep. Maybe passionate, but not necessarily "deep". I've met shallow and deep people with varied Sun signs. The Moon seems like the best indication of where a person is at on an emotional level and the extent of their psychological complexity. This is even more obvious in women. Hannah - Having Moon opposite Pluto in Taurus/Scorpio, you were never going to be light-hearted, regardless of your Sun placement!
But why is that so much more pronounced than my other placements?
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 23, 2015 10:26 PM
I have both sun and moon in Aries... In my life I'm probably the deepest person most people have met... I'm not saying it has anything to do with the Aries, but people never guess me to have that much Aries because of who they see me as... I do see my Aries show up house wise... They're both house 7 and I'm very quick to commit, move in together, optimistic to the point that I don't leave a relationship I never should've gotten into-like fight to death to try to save it til I finally come to my senses... Maybe that means innocently naive like Aries can be? Misunderstood is very much a word that describes the Aries in my life... Especially when most people assume it is a hardcore insensitive ambitious bossy energy... That must show up when Aries rules in other areas... I know my Aries exclusively as a 7th house energy. ------------------ Please don't quote. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 10:29 PM
I'm very sympathetic to Aries people. I often enjoy their company and I do find them much more complex and much deeper than what cookie-cutter astrology paints them as. But I'm a Gemini and we get the same short stick--we're painted as childish twits who go chasing after every shiny thing in sight and little more. Many Aries people I know have been musicians or other types of artists, very soulful types. I almost never see Aries treated as an artistic sign by Astrologers, yet in real life, it seems to me that it is. That Aries fire, that Aries passion, it needs to become something in the world, you know? IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 4122 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 23, 2015 10:37 PM
Yes, a person I know has an Aries Sun and I'm pretty sure he's an Aries Moon also. I always figured he MUST be a Pisces Moon and thus born in the wee hours but reading this is confirming my suspicions that, yes, a double Aries really could be that deep and emotional. He is extremely sensitive, an artist. Yes, the fire needs to burn. It is passionate. A child's depth and passion are not to be underestimated. Our society is quite ageist..m children get a bad rap but they're actually closest to god in many ways, right? The other thing that most tropical Aries are sidereal fishies--something to bear in mind when things just don't seem to gel. One reason I rely more heavily on aspects than signs.. but signs are fun too.. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 10:49 PM
These are great to hear! I'm glad there are other Aries who are not just bellowing hot heads. When I open up to people irl they don't seem to get how deeply I feel about pretty much anything I'm saying. Or I get treated like I'm young and dumb, which is hilarious really! I'm smarter than I seem but others don't get it right away. I even have Sun Mercury and Mars on my ASC. IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 23, 2015 11:09 PM
This has been a great thread...I'm not a hot head at all... You'd REALLY have to cross the line for that... If anything I'm the peacemaker like my Libra AC... People do seem to be attracted to trying to fight with me so I have to be careful with people and make sure I guide the situation... Funny that arts has come up so much... I have been involved in so many different forms of the arts in my life... Nobody has brought up the physical though... I have exercised myself into muscle collapse a few times... Physically, when I was younger, there was no off button... At one point I was a dancer and would exercise and dance 30 hrs per week... It was hard to stay still... ------------------ Please don't quote. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 11:20 PM
I would love to know what it's like to have that drive to push yourself physically! What helped not to do that? I have Mars in the 12th. My energy is sporadic which makes it harder to obtain my physical goals.
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posted November 23, 2015 11:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lunar Pisces: I'm very sympathetic to Aries people. I often enjoy their company and I do find them much more complex and much deeper than what cookie-cutter astrology paints them as. But I'm a Gemini and we get the same short stick--we're painted as childish twits who go chasing after every shiny thing in sight and little more. Many Aries people I know have been musicians or other types of artists, very soulful types. I almost never see Aries treated as an artistic sign by Astrologers, yet in real life, it seems to me that it is. That Aries fire, that Aries passion, it needs to become something in the world, you know?
I agree Geminis get the short stick as well, but in real life do you feel like people see you as something different than you really are? Or that their assumptions are completely wrong? Soulful! Great word. Yes, I feel extremely soulful and it seems most people don't know how to react to that. Maybe it's because I surprise myself and it's in our nature to try to conform to whatever group we're in, hence if I'm surprised then so are other people. IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 23, 2015 11:27 PM
I have Mars in Gemini so that helps a bit I'm sure... I'm just happier when I have physicality in my life, primarily dance because I'm very connected to music... But I've always felt the pleasure of physical movement was a part of the Aries Sun and Moon... But you don't feel it? I think I read that the best time to start. New exercise regime is when tJupiter has a positive aspect with your Mars. It should make the transition into a new physical habit easier. What is your Mars in? ------------------ Please don't quote. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2015 11:36 PM
Yes and no. I'm very overweight, so no, I don't like to exert. But I used to dance. I loved dancing, still love to dance but I'm 26 and there's no serious dance classes for my age group. I like to go to the gym and move, yes, but getting in the zone enough to WORK. OUT. is next to impossible for me. Based on physical description I feel sooooo much more like a Taurus. My Mars is in Gemini too, but it's in the 12th house. My Sun and Moon are in the 11th. Actually I guess it figures I love dancing for sport because Scorpio (house of health) rules my 6th, and Pluto is sitting in my 5th. And yes a double whammy of Aries in your core planets like Sun and Moon would probably aid in making you physical. Aries should be an athletic sign in most cases, no matter what. At least sports do come easy to me when I try.
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appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 24, 2015 01:31 AM
@hannaramaaDance classes vary by city... If you're in a major city there should be something. There are things online depending on your style.... Actual classes for flat monthly rates. It just depends on self motivation which can be the hardest part for anyone. Start with ridiculously small goals and add ridiculously small amounts daily... It's about creating the habit... I did that with jogging when I needed to lose weight. I literally started with a goal of jogging 1 minute straight and went up by a minute a day until finally I was jogging over an hour a day... It takes 21 days to create a habit... After 21 days I was jogging 21 minutes... That's starting something (not to mention that's when runners euphoria was setting in)... You also have to realize that if you do something 1-2 times per wk you won't really improve much. If you do it 3 times per week you will stay at the same level. If you do it 4 or more times per week you will improve... Keep that in mind to help stay on track... I was doing it 7days a week which wasn't good after a while and lead to problems, so take a day or two of rest but I think better not consecutively and might be better after the first 21 days... But check with a doctor on the details cuz we're all different. It's always hard but don't think about losing weight or being good or not good enough at something (it's about improving and that's all), just think about creating a good habit and becoming healthier... Let everything else just happen whenever it wants to or whenever it's meant to... You don't need to worry about the other things... Also keep in mind a starting date that has good aspects to your Mars. You can also try an event chart start time with a trine between the Asc and the Lord of the 6th, and probably nearer a New Moon to ensure commitment to the task. I'm surprised we have both Sun and Mars in the same sign... I don't know many people with Mars in Gemini... ADD... I had a friend who started Latin/salsa dancing several nights a week and lost 100lbs in less than a year... Partner dance is a good option and you can sometimes find good places to go and practice... But sometimes girls outnumber guys by a lot so it's always good to get some guy friends involved. ------------------ Please don't quote. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 24, 2015 02:52 AM
My friend has a truckload of aries in his chart, sun/moon/mercury/venus/rising. Whoooo. He has gravitas. That's probably what describes him best, to me. He's sentimental (i.e: keeping little photos of friends in his wallet, which he carries almost everywhere), and artistic (is a graphic desiger/photographer). His art feels very dreamy, has fine details, signs, symbols. There are other factors that may contribute to it, like his 12th house sun, 1st house taurus mars (probably explains why his energy feels very "solid", and I suppose it slows him down a little). IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 5210 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2015 03:37 AM
Yes. Something you don't really realize through text book Astrology is how sensitive Aries is. This sensitivity is not directed inward toward themselves but more outward towards others. Human suffering. ------------------ "There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace." Duane Allman
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StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 2862 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 24, 2015 04:36 AM
I agree that Aries often gets the short end of the stick. One thing that I do notice about Aries is that more often than not, if they're you're friend/family member/SO/ whatever, their intent is almost always pure. They seem to have an inherit need to be honest and above-board in their relationships, which comes off as abrasive or bossy to some people but they're really not. That's just part of their internal drive. I respond well to Aries, even though our sun signs are quincunx. Whereas I am more withdrawn and quiet, they're happy to lead the way and take initiative. My Gemini Moon/Mars and Aquarius rising often finds its match in Aries, where other sun signs would usually bore me or send me running in the other direction. They're often the only people who can keep up with my quick and clever thinking. A conversation with an Aries can last days because neither of us is bored by each other. In my experience, they're compassionate and sincere people who often work very hard, even to the point of physical illness or injury. They're incredibly loyal to the people they care about, and will readily jump to their defense if needed. They're great communicators and as someone else mentioned, they often have a propensity for artist endeavors. FYI I was raised by a triple Aries (dad) and Aries Moon (mom). My most significant relationship to date was with a Aries Sun/Pisces Moon/Gemini rising. I still consider this person one of my best friends. One of my closest friends in college was also an Aries Sun. I also have Moon/Mars conjunction and a lot of Mars aspects to my personal planets...so a little fire doesn't really bother me. You guys are awesome! IP: Logged |
athenaia Knowflake Posts: 1558 From: USA Registered: May 2015
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posted November 24, 2015 10:49 AM
I love this thread! Aries energy is definitely underrated. In fact, I feel that way about all the "first" signs in their given element - Aries, Taurus, Gemini and Cancer are all written as very "one-note" in comparison to their more "complex" following elemental partners. Just like everyone else here, I also know a Sun/Moon (and Mercury) person in Aries - I love the word "gravitas" because I also think it encapsulates his energy beautifully. Everything about him is this baffling contradiction - high school football captain, 4.3 GPA, graduated from college early with a masters in the humanities, into alternative/indie music, an art aficionado, sports lover, a socially liberal Muslim.. all rather strange things to pair together, but he wears the juggling act quite naturally. Absolutely one of the most fascinating people I know. In stereotypical fashion, when I plugged in his natal chart I was baffled ("Aries?! No way..") but he's shown me that this sign truly isn't given their due in astrology. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2940 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 24, 2015 12:40 PM
Of course, Aries are sensitive. Aries is the baby of the zodiac, and babies are sensitive. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa unregistered
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posted November 24, 2015 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Of course, Aries are sensitive. Aries is the baby of the zodiac, and babies are sensitive.
We aren't saying they're not sensitive but that their natures are oversimplified. ^^ Point in case. IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2015 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by appleberry: @hannaramaaDance classes vary by city... If you're in a major city there should be something. There are things online depending on your style.... Actual classes for flat monthly rates. It just depends on self motivation which can be the hardest part for anyone. Start with ridiculously small goals and add ridiculously small amounts daily... It's about creating the habit... I did that with jogging when I needed to lose weight. I literally started with a goal of jogging 1 minute straight and went up by a minute a day until finally I was jogging over an hour a day... It takes 21 days to create a habit... After 21 days I was jogging 21 minutes... That's starting something (not to mention that's when runners euphoria was setting in)... You also have to realize that if you do something 1-2 times per wk you won't really improve much. If you do it 3 times per week you will stay at the same level. If you do it 4 or more times per week you will improve... Keep that in mind to help stay on track... I was doing it 7days a week which wasn't good after a while and lead to problems, so take a day or two of rest but I think better not consecutively and might be better after the first 21 days... But check with a doctor on the details cuz we're all different. It's always hard but don't think about losing weight or being good or not good enough at something (it's about improving and that's all), just think about creating a good habit and becoming healthier... Let everything else just happen whenever it wants to or whenever it's meant to... You don't need to worry about the other things... Also keep in mind a starting date that has good aspects to your Mars. You can also try an event chart start time with a trine between the Asc and the Lord of the 6th, and probably nearer a New Moon to ensure commitment to the task. I'm surprised we have both Sun and Mars in the same sign... I don't know many people with Mars in Gemini... ADD... I had a friend who started Latin/salsa dancing several nights a week and lost 100lbs in less than a year... Partner dance is a good option and you can sometimes find good places to go and practice... But sometimes girls outnumber guys by a lot so it's always good to get some guy friends involved.
This is a great post, I'm going to try it. Thank you! IP: Logged |
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posted November 24, 2015 01:12 PM
@StubbornVirgosI actually like Virgos too! They're quiet, and that makes me feel like I'm self absorbed since I'll make up for it by monopolizing a convo in a way, but Virgos often surprise me with their vulgarity and wit. I also believe they're more empathic than Pisces, and Pisces is just more compassionate than Virgo. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4496 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 24, 2015 01:17 PM
It depends how evolved the Aries is. Aries rules mars and passion. what it's used for is the person..Aries is also a fun sign- enjoy it IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1291 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted November 24, 2015 08:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Yes and no. I'm very overweight, so no, I don't like to exert. But I used to dance. I loved dancing, still love to dance but I'm 26 and there's no serious dance classes for my age group. I like to go to the gym and move, yes, but getting in the zone enough to WORK. OUT. is next to impossible for me. Based on physical description I feel sooooo much more like a Taurus. My Mars is in Gemini too, but it's in the 12th house. My Sun and Moon are in the 11th. Actually I guess it figures I love dancing for sport because Scorpio (house of health) rules my 6th, and Pluto is sitting in my 5th. And yes a double whammy of Aries in your core planets like Sun and Moon would probably aid in making you physical. Aries should be an athletic sign in most cases, no matter what. At least sports do come easy to me when I try.
What is your dominant sign? Is your asc. Gemini, too? IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 24, 2015 08:24 PM
Oversimplified, much so... and people think we are hiding our abrasive Aries side... I'll admit I've become more bold with age, because people don't allow you to be shy, quiet etc, in general and you have to become stronger and braver in life as you grow... . But it's not natural - it has been effort and struggle... I've always identified with Piscean traits more than Arian... I suppose I should be happy to have access to some of the typical Arian nature as needed...------------------ > > Please don't quote. IP: Logged |