posted December 01, 2015 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
That's your belief then, doesn't make it fact, same with my opinion...but it's going to be a lot harder to gain anything positive if you believe things are worse just because you have Venus in Pisces too.

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posted December 01, 2015 03:29 AM            

OP, I do have to say though that I think this thread can go in circles, as - although we can all express the concerns of what Venus/Neptune can manifest - none of us can make your decisions for you OR predict futures. It's just not gonna happen.

posted December 01, 2015 05:18 AM            

There's some cloudy/blurry areas in our relationship, but heh that's a part of the nature of neppy influence.

posted December 01, 2015 05:51 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
My s.o has venus square neptune. He has experienced abuse, but not in romantic relationships.

There's some cloudy/blurry areas in our relationship, but heh that's a part of the nature of neppy influence.

We do have venus-pluto both ways in synastry.

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posted December 01, 2015 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I never said my opinion was fact I simply said I don't think that's the case for everyone. I said me having Venus in Pisces will make things worse for me because it's true. Have you ever read about this placement? If so you would understand what I am talking about.

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LOL nope, I've never read about it. Who reads about astrology?!?

posted December 01, 2015 08:20 AM            

Astrology is an interpretation and therefore while reading about it has been quite helpful and I still do. Experiences have taught me that it's just a tinted fog. It's a little different for everyone. Which brings me to number two.

While we inspect one aspect at a time in order to better understand astrology because it is incredibly complex. We can't forget that while looking at single aspects that it IS part of a whole. It IS part of something incredibly complex and therefore not the same for everyone.

I CAN see how this aspect would lead someone to abuse. They wouldn't see the abuser as they really are and overlook their faults. Trust me, I know more than I ever hoped for about how that works. Falling in love with dreams and relationships that don't exist.
But I have things in my chart that give me that "it'll be hell or high water before I allow ANYONE to abuse me". In fact, all it would take is one time of having a nasty attitude, openly taking advantage of me, etc and I could be snapped back to reality in a heartbeat. It wouldn't need to go anywhere near abuse. For some of us, myself included as my Venus is also 12th, I think it plays a role. I can fall for unavailable people, people that I see often but don't know well. My mind will fill in the blanks with glorious fantasy. Things like that.
The moment they were mean in any way I'd be snapped back to attention because I CANNOT tolerate it, and wouldn't.

So when you read about these things. Know that all that you read is "potential", not absolute. I didn't read the article but most that I read will say "often means....." or "can mean....".

There's no absolutes in astrology because there's NEVER a lone placement or aspect in someone. It's always part of something MUCH bigger.

posted December 01, 2015 09:06 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
LOL nope, I've never read about it. Who reads about astrology?!?

In any case aside from this I genuinely hope you get out of your toxic relationship sooner than later.

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posted December 01, 2015 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
See and this is what I've read about people who have this placement. They are somehow involved in abusive kind of relationships. Also they tend to have the Venus/Pluto aspect with who they are in relationships with. This is what the article I posted stated as well.

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He didn't experience abuse in relationships. Only at the hands of random strangers.

posted December 01, 2015 09:44 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
He didn't experience abuse in relationships. Only at the hands of random strangers.

Yah, so nah it's not "always the case". But there's potential, neptune influence may make it harder for the natives to "see" through the haze or to notice "red flags".

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posted December 01, 2015 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
He didn't experience abuse in relationships. Only at the hands of random strangers.

Yah, so nah it's not "always the case". But there are potentials, neptune influence may make it harder for the natives to "see" through the haze or to notice "red flags".

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this. It also attracts liars.

as I've said before,

posted December 01, 2015 09:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
this. It also attracts liars.

as I've said before,

when you start to get older you learn to differentiate between people who are good enough souls to be in your company and those who are not, and dismiss them in short order.

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posted December 01, 2015 10:23 AM            

But yeah, that was how he learned to read people.

posted December 01, 2015 10:29 AM            

Dejanira is victimization

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posted December 01, 2015 10:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nessus is abuse

Dejanira is victimization

You should check these out.

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posted December 01, 2015 11:04 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Now the guy I am somewhat involved in. We aren't in a serious relationship he's someone I met online. We actually live in different states. But I did meet him and we were intimate. He can be verbally abusive sometimes but I'm thinking that's because of his own issues. I have Venus/Pluto aspects with him. So I guess that means he might start getting physically abusive.

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posted December 01, 2015 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I am not in a abusive relationship I don't know what your problem is.

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Well... but you did describe him as being somewhat 'verbally abusive' in your communication with you. So I think we're all just trying to reflect that back to you so you don't continue putting up with his negativity (toxicity)/ making excuses for it by saying what he's telling you is true about yourself.

posted December 01, 2015 11:27 AM            

I am asking about this aspect to get a better understanding about MYSELF in general. I just so happened to read that people with this aspect usually suffer from abusive relationships. That's why I came here to ask I have enough sense not to stay or be involved with someone who is physically abusive. I'm not perfect either sometimes I too can be verbally abusive I'm not proud of it at all. I also said that he does have some emotional issues himself. Which is what I think Todd pointed out in our composite chart.

This is what he said to say about the composite between this guy and I. [URL=http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004084.html.]http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004084.html[/img] So I already have some kind of idea what to expect with this guy.

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Originally posted by Cappi112:
Well... but you did describe him as being somewhat 'verbally abusive' in your communication with you. So I think we're all just trying to reflect that back to you so you don't continue putting up with his negativity (toxicity)/ making excuses for it by saying what he's telling you is true about yourself.

Bottom line: relationships should uplift you and make you feel good. If he's making you feel negative enough to post on boards because you're worried you attract deception, liars, and abuse... then this IS toxic right now. So I think most people here are just urging you to consider that since you've asked for some insight here.

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posted December 01, 2015 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Oh, okay.

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posted December 01, 2015 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
^ That was obviously sarcasm??? #facepalm. This is getting boring, best of luck in overcoming your bad aspects..

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posted December 01, 2015 12:39 PM            

Perhaps it's my Aqua moon that can lead to such clinical self-reflection, but I realized I had a type. Supremely educated, an independent thinker, the life of the party, "the guy every girl wants"... why did I seek this out? Well, at the time these were qualities I so lacked thus I sought them out in my partner perhaps as compensation. Also, because I venerated these qualities so much, it lead to hero worship on my part, and it became my "end all be all" to receive validation from this type of guy by winning over their affection. Their validation. This is never a healthy foundation for ANY type of relationship.

So I spent time on myself. I went through a self-imposed celibacy. I took up a new work out routine, I focused on my goals as an individual, every time I found myself sparkling with delight at a guy that fell into the criteria of "my type" I chose to ignore the potential chemistry because I already had so many bad experiences with that archetype.

They say that if you have an end goal in mind, without clear cut blue prints formulated with a step-by-step process on how to reach that goal, it's easy to fall off the wagon.

Venus square Neptune folks must ask themselves.. what is my ideal relationship? NOT IDEAL PARTNER. But what is the general tone I want when I'm in a relationship?

Mutual respect. Understanding. No flare ups of anger - everything must get hashed out first. Sacrifice being met with mutual sacrifice. Happiness for one another's happiness. Both partner's having each others back regardless of circumstances.

See how none of that involves someone being the "star of the show" or the "funniest person in the room"? You go from seeking out the superficial (even though at the time you never thought it was superficial...) to the philosophical.

Then, when you have that end goal in mind ("the tone of the relationship..") you begin to value different things in your partner than you did before.

You begin looking for someone soft-hearted.. someone that bleeds sincerity. Someone who is allergic to lying. Someone that's a great leader who happens to level with the people they're leading and relate to them on a humane spectrum. Someone with a good relationship with their friends, someone that's always been nothing but kind to you in past interactions... things will fall into place eventually if you keep your mind to a strict standard.

"Cut away ruthlessly everything that is imaginary in your feelings"... that's the quote I'd use to define my Venus sq Neptune placement.

posted December 01, 2015 12:44 PM            

reading about 8-9 cases is not valid research!

posted December 01, 2015 02:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Julz87:
I read somewhere that Venus/Neptune stress aspects means the individual will never come to term as to what boundaries to have when loving another (these people have no boundaries when loving another therefore setting them up for some major hurt) another notion I read is that these individuals are wounded souls in the aspect of love they need to find a creative (artistic venus themed and usually are very gifted) outlet. Lastly I also read that these people will not find their soulmate (that one person that they can truly connect with on a fundamental level) in this lifetime.

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