posted December 09, 2015 01:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
Pisces are also not in this category of not accepting/not believing someone loves them. They are actually the opposite - believe someone loves them even when they are not.

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posted December 09, 2015 01:38 AM            

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Originally posted by cchampliss2:
Is it just safe to say that any hard aspects from Saturn to personal planets makes it difficult for the person?

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posted December 09, 2015 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Pisces sees around corners and reacts to your future breakup before it happens, and they react to you coming back to them before you have decided to. It's hard, getting lost in time.

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Is this due to Pisces being so intuitive or just too dreamy?

posted December 09, 2015 10:21 AM            

And I say that mainly because my moon is in Pisces, and I'm kidding.

But perhaps there is some truth in it.

posted December 09, 2015 07:52 PM            

Let's start with the watery and Neptune themes, eh?

Neptune in the 7th
Moon trine Neptune
Sun, Mercury, Venus square Neptune
Mars in the 12th.

Now, Saturn.

Saturn in the 7th
Moon trine Saturn
Sun and Venus square Saturn

Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus all in the 11th house. I haven't read a lot about it but my experience is that I feel outside of the group and different most of the time, even if I'm not by any other accounts. Try connecting and dating when you feel this way...

Libra rules my 5th and I have Pluto sitting in Scorpio (as a singleton) right there. I'm not so much oblivious to love as I seem to have an inherent need to wreck it, either on purpose or just choosing the no good sons'a-bi.....

posted December 09, 2015 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
I think when Saturn touches Venus it gives that person the sense of being "unlovable" because they have to EARN it somehow, even with the soft aspects. The soft aspects differ I think in that it just feels like a naturally acceptable way of life instead of a hard chore. It gives one the sense that they really have to prove their worth to someone in order to feel justified in receiving that love (and I'm talking real nitty-gritty love, not the fleeting type a brief rendezvous gets you).

I think heavily Plutonian types who have a hard time trusting others may experience this too, but for different reasons (i.e. Scorpio Moons). For them, love is not black and white. There are too many shades of grey and "what-ifs" for them to trust in the process completely. There is always some dark entity lurking around the corner, waiting to snatch away their happiness. They are essentially waiting for the other shoe to drop or for the "catch" because they can't just TRUST that someone may really love them.

Low self-esteem also plays a part, which I'm sure is explained by a myriad of natal placements. There is always someone prettier or smarter or richer etc. than them and they can't understand why their partner would love them when they could just as easily love another who they deem to be "better" than them.

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posted December 09, 2015 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Pisces sees around corners and reacts to your future breakup before it happens, and they react to you coming back to them before you have decided to. It's hard, getting lost in time.

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omg, that sounds amazing, and i am totally in agreement here.

posted December 09, 2015 09:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You Sag Venus people! So blunt & flirtatious.

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😁 LOL! Sorry Faith, I can't even help it sometimes!

edit: Faith, I just realized this was the pot calling the kettle 'flirtatious'!