posted December 02, 2015 06:19 PM            

Like a Scorp ASC 9 Degree and Pluto in Sag (all 1st house)

posted December 02, 2015 09:07 PM            

Having a planet in first is like having it placed in the doorway to your home. They open the door and, "whoa. There's Pluto right there before seeing the rest of the home."

posted December 02, 2015 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Is having a planet in the 1st house the same as having it conjunct your ASC? Even if it didnt make a cusp aspect natally?

Like a Scorp ASC 9 Degree and Pluto in Sag (all 1st house)

Or Libra MC 16 Degree Mars in Scorp (All 10th house)

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The same No,,
Think degrees of influence and then realize degree for year in the most formative years.
Whether an outer planet or a personal planet, within 4 degrees is much different than say 5 to 15 from asc but even if as u suggest in 2nd house sign(values) still very formative years.
My self 24li asc,Neppers 9sc, but neppers
squared by Venus(signifying sign on asc) so the distance from meant maybe nothing because the aspect cinched in the energy.
I think the very close aspects to asc in natal(less than 5 degrees) are so engrained
in the person they are less conscious of the energy themselves as part of the personality.
Or rather the more time to exercise it(5 years or 10-15 years) before it slips into true 12th hs in sp, the more the energies of that planet are developed in the psyche of that person.

Tight conjunctions to the asc vary so much with what planet is there, as it may smother the energies of sign on asc(aspect dependent of course) whereas those planets RISING but not in close conjunction must blend rather than smother.
I hope this deepens your thought without leaving you in the dark recesses of your mind.

posted December 03, 2015 07:39 AM            

A planet in the 1st but forming no conjunction is like having the "vibe"; people suspect that there is something there, but it is hard to confirm what that thing is.

Venus conjunct Asc; "Wow, she is beautiful!"

Venus in the 1st but not in aspect to the Asc; "There is something about her that just makes her stand out"

posted December 04, 2015 10:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
A planet conjunct the Asc is having a tattoo on your face; its really hard to miss or get rid of.

A planet in the 1st but forming no conjunction is like having the "vibe"; people suspect that there is something there, but it is hard to confirm what that thing is.

Venus conjunct Asc; "Wow, she is beautiful!"

Venus in the 1st but not in aspect to the Asc; "There is something about her that just makes her stand out"

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posted December 04, 2015 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
So would Pluto still have an effect on your appearance in this case.

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Less so than an actual conjunct the ASC but yes, to a lesser degree.

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posted December 04, 2015 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
Is having a planet in the 1st house the same as having it conjunct your ASC? Even if it didnt make a cusp aspect natally?

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No. However, such a planet can be Parallel or even Contra-parallel your Asc.