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Topic: Why is Venus square Pluto so scary?
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athenegoddess
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posted December 02, 2015 06:30 PM
  
I'm trying to understand the psychology of this aspect. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 02, 2015 06:37 PM
I have Venus opposite Pluto, and I've been known to be a little bit like so. Don't judge.   IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 02, 2015 06:41 PM
It seems like Venus/Pluto like to hurt others for their own benefit.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 02, 2015 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
It seems like Venus/Pluto like to hurt others for their own benefit.
Eh...no. I'm obsessive, and can feel wrath when I feel that I've been wronged, but I've never been willing to hurt other people for my personal gain. Nopity nope. IP: Logged |
Isa
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posted December 02, 2015 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Eh...no. I'm obsessive, and can feel wrath when I feel that I've been wronged, but I've never been willing to hurt other people for my personal gain. Nopity nope.
I'm a venus-pluto person too and I would never hurt anyone. Revenge, however, is always on my mind, but I always let fate take it's course
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Violets
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posted December 02, 2015 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by Isa:
I'm a venus-pluto person too and I would never hurt anyone. Revenge, however, is always on my mind, but I always let fate take it's course
Yes, ditto. I wouldn't say always on my mind, but I would never feel okay about actually plotting out some sort of scheme to hurt someone else, and I wouldn't feel good if it came about accidentally because of me, either. I'm with you, I prefer to let fate take its course.
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maira
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posted December 02, 2015 08:23 PM
Emotional amputation: https://chirotic.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/venus-pluto-love-and-trans/
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Ami Anne
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posted December 02, 2015 08:24 PM
Love is powerful and primal passions are powerful. This person has these in a kind of tug of war, not an easy flow. Hence, it could be simmering, explosive, shut down, barging up to the surface, any manner of "non flowing" things.Hope that makes sense lol ------------------
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Seimei
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posted December 02, 2015 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I'm trying to understand the psychology of this aspect.
Mars sq Pluto is the mofo, Girl drops bowling ball on dude in his sleep then sets him on fire.
HE LIVED
she thought he must have cheated because he was tired to f. Dispatcher ask" 78, are you being stalked"
I answered "yes". Dispatcher "Cops want to talk to you". she had stalked so many people before me, they had a notebook full
and yes she had Venus sq Pluto. I wish I still had the chart. She was an astrology nut
I had left astrology books on seat of my cab,
2 days later she had found her way to my house, was in my house waiting on me to come home.. psycho.
I never even unzipped my pants to have that stalker. The Venus square Pluto aspect is easy to spot in female for a guy who knows no astrology> as in,"Get me outta here, this chick is nuckin futs: Unless they(for me anyway) play this I've been a victim, please help me crap,When really I was the fly in the web so I figured out slowly what was up. She even had her therapist confused. 2 years later we met again and she was different person,Neptune transits stuff. ------------------
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Violets
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posted December 02, 2015 09:31 PM
Um. I'm thinking it might have been more than just the Pluto/Venus square, ya think?  IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 02, 2015 09:43 PM
Well the Venus Pluto square is the closest aspect in the chart. So no its Venus/Pluto.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted December 02, 2015 11:07 PM
I have Venus square Pluto and I don't like hurting people. I just hate being vulnerable and I tend to keep a poker face which might end up hurting others, but that's never my intention. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted December 03, 2015 12:09 AM
My H is a Venus op Pluto and revenge is his middle name. Unfortunately, he would also intentionally hurt a person if they have slighted him (not physically). He is very good with words and they cut like a knife through butter. He can plot a revenge for YEARS meanwhile, other person will think they are best friends. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted December 03, 2015 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Violets:
I have Venus opposite Pluto, and I've been known to be a little bit like so. Don't judge.
hahahaa btw, my man is like that, and he doesnt have a venus-pluto in his chart. IP: Logged |
Readytochill
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posted December 03, 2015 01:19 AM
Ew. I hate this aspect lol it's one I know all too well.The way it plays out for me or how I perceive it.... Money=power
Good looks=power
Having a powerful (rich, handsome, high position job) boyfriend/husband=power I want all of this. I put so much emphasis on money and how I look. It disgusts me. I used to be manipulative until I realized that I want people to like me for me. I didn't want to play little games or do any sort of manipulating. Wanting people to like me for me should make me not want to be so focused on my looks and how much money I have but for some reason, it's hard for me to stop with those 2.
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VirgoPILL
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posted December 03, 2015 04:24 AM
natally i have venus/mars (leo) sextile pluto (lib) orbs over 4 but i can totally relate above mentioned things. im wondering if there are other aspects enhancing v-p or these characteristics come from somewhere else.
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whaaat
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posted December 03, 2015 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
I have Venus opposite Pluto, and I've been known to be a little bit like so. Don't judge.
Same lmao!!!!
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Ceridwen
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posted December 03, 2015 01:59 PM
Hmm, I have Venus-square-Pluto as well natally (2°57), but I donīt identify with most that has been said here.
I don`t want to hurt people. I am not keen on revenge, if being hurt (I am keen on processing the pain so it does not keep stuck to me like tar and keeping me down in some kind of mental-emotional dump which would hinder my ability to see the beauty all around me).
I am not really materialistic. I don`t care for money at all (which is something that drives my parents insane). And if anyone would act around me, like Orange told about her boyfriend, it would send me running into the opposite direction. To each their own, but that wouldn`t feel "cute" to me, but suffocating. (People are different of course, it is just my personal taste that I would not like that AT ALL.
I have seen how behaviour like this and worse spiralled out of control, seeing friends fall under the thrall under seemingly "undying passion", just to slide right into manipulative and abusive mechanism, and I have been the one staying up late at night to somehow try and keep them sane and away from the bridge they were almost wanting to jump off.
So no thank you, I do not need to experience that first hand! )
Having said that maybe that is where my Venus-Pluto-experience comes into play, through friends?
(Pluto rules my 11th house, so maybe) IP: Logged |
Gracha
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posted December 03, 2015 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
Eh...no. I'm obsessive, and can feel wrath when I feel that I've been wronged, but I've never been willing to hurt other people for my personal gain. Nopity nope.
Bingo. This is me and I'm venus opposite pluto. Screw me over especially in love and it's donzo they're usually left saying I did them wrong. People forget there's a reaction to every action. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 03, 2015 06:40 PM
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I'm trying to understand the psychology of this aspect.
I believe they most likely suffer from a chemical imbalance that retards the relating faculty. Much in the way a child with autism can't pick up social cues, people with this aspect are challenged in the relationship arena. As Venus rules relationships. They suffer a retardation, violently. As Pluto has a violent & unfair energy to it. They are scary because there is usually no reasoning with them. Their acts are awfully self righteous and grossly unfair. IP: Logged |
Sandra018
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posted December 06, 2015 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by Violets:
I have Venus opposite Pluto, and I've been known to be a little bit like so. Don't judge.
this!!!
venus opp pluto here and i agree with it.
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Violets
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posted December 06, 2015 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Nine: I believe they most likely suffer from a chemical imbalance that retards the relating faculty. Much in the way a child with autism can't pick up social cues, people with this aspect are challenged in the relationship arena. As Venus rules relationships. They suffer a retardation, violently. As Pluto has a violent & unfair energy to it.They are scary because there is usually no reasoning with them. Their acts are awfully self righteous and grossly unfair.
...edit.
I had added a somewhat unpleasant response here, which I will have to attribute to the Mars/Uranus/Pluto stuff hitting my Pluto and Saturn square.
I don't agree with what you're saying here (at all), and while I do find it ridiculous and offensive for various reasons, it's probably not a good idea for me to stoop to insults. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 06, 2015 08:51 PM
^^Like Oscar Pistorius who slaughtered his girlfriend then claimed self defense.IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 06, 2015 08:55 PM
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^^Like Oscar Pistorius who slaughtered his girlfriend then claimed self defense.
Um...okay. That's a totally and completely sane generalization.  IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted December 06, 2015 08:58 PM
athenegoddess,I prefer to not get too specific, but to simply look at the planetary factors + the template of the square. First, this aspect can almost serve as a perfect setup for playing out the myth of Pluto and Persephone. The challenge may be that there is such a strong push within this aspect that some folks may find themselves breaking a relationship before it reaches that all essential point of compromise and sharing ... or avoiding getting involved enough to get to such a point. The square gets into deep psychology, particularly with Pluto involved, bringing strong cravings to the surface, sometimes at inopportune times, or in ways that would seem to have one facing the 'dark' side mirrored by another.
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