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Topic: Why do some people not want children?
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hannaramaa
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posted December 07, 2015 11:31 PM
  
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Yes. Plus non-commital people have very poor self-awareness.
What a logical fallacy! Please continue. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 07, 2015 11:50 PM
^^ Pfft. 
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curiouspisces89
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posted December 08, 2015 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
5th house does not mean only children, or that you will desire children. The 5th house includes many things of the nature of 'love/passion/creativity given, risks taken.'And you do not know for certain what houses someone's natal planets fall into unless you've got a basis for verifying their correct Asc degree and sign.
I know that, but my question is regarding children not creativity and other things  I know their ASC because they have told me their exact time of birth. IP: Logged |
curiouspisces89
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posted December 08, 2015 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Interesting, I have a packed 5H Sag that includes moon and Mars, and I love kids, though I was also responsible enough not to have them even when the feeling overtook me. I've worked with kids since I was 17 (as in job and library volunteer for a summer reading program) and love working with them. My 5H seems to give me the energy for them as well as the enjoyment in their company. But it's also a house for creativity, which can be hard to do when you're taking care of kids. But for astrology, if I were to look into it then the first thing I'd look for is strong water elements who were raised in a bad home, as the water elements don't easily forget, forgive, or overcome their past, so if childhood was hell on them, or they saw how it was miserable for the adults who took care of them, they won't forget that and it could alienate them from having kids...but this is as much environment as it is astrology. Earth signs might look at the bottom line instead, and not want kids until they're very stable, as kids are very expensive. Of course in previous generations when kids were free exploited labor (and were the last to eat and gain the benefits of the family) then the earth sign hesitant to have kids now would be more likely to desire kids. My understanding is that Sag generally doesn't want kids for a long time as it would impede their freedom, but after awhile, they change their mind in a big way. Naturally, the rest of the chart matters, as do other things. (That said, my Sag father doesn't seem anymore inclined than ever to have anything to do with me. And I know a Sag mother who lives up to her obligations, but only grudgingly, and is impatient for the last of her brood to turn 18 and leave the nest.)
Thanks a lot for commenting! That all really makes sense. What is interesting is that they both have earth signs on the cusp of 5th house, so maybe this is making them hesitant towards having children or not wanting them. Just so we are clear I have nothing against people who dont want children. I respect other peoples decision and I dont think they are selfish. People have their own reasons why they choose to do something or not to do something. As long as they are happy I am happy for them. I only asked the question because I was curious and it helps me learn more about astrology IP: Logged |
AngaCrowley
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posted December 08, 2015 05:07 AM
I have moon conj uranus (1 degree orb) in 5h sag. despite having a fifth house stellium that is huge and includes both lumanaries, i dont want kids & prefer working w adults. uranus conj moon = no kids, big time, imo. IP: Logged |
Spongebob
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posted December 08, 2015 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Stress and depression are 2 different things. Stress MAY cause depression.
*blank stare* ...When did depression come into this? No offense but regardless of age, i don't know that you're necessarily ready to be a dad either, based on the statements you've made. Which is ironic considering how you're slamming people who say they don't want kids. IP: Logged |
Spongebob
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posted December 08, 2015 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What a logical fallacy! Please continue.
YAS lol IP: Logged |
whaaat
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posted December 08, 2015 09:21 AM
I wouldn't mind having kids one day but I don't think I'd make a very good mother (from what I feel at the momment anyway).Moon opposition Mercury- I treat kids like students vs how a mother would. Sometimes even as younger siblings.
It may be due to my own young age but Mercury rules the house of siblings so it may stick with me through life. NN in the 5th- I don't think the 5th has anything to do with children. The 4th is children and the 5th is Leo. My current goals and dreams are all about shining socially and career wise so I fear that by the time I learn my NN lessons I'll be too old to have kids. IP: Logged |
Aunt Anomalia
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posted December 08, 2015 09:31 AM
The 5th house is my busiest house but it's in Capricorn and it contains Saturn. I don't want children and I approach reproduction very seriously. I believe Uranus in my 4th contributed to my decision. Actually, probably pretty much all my chart did to some degree.------------------
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NeptunianSag
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posted December 08, 2015 04:37 PM
I have Lilith in the 5th, so huge nope hahaIP: Logged |
deepseastar
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posted December 08, 2015 09:16 PM
I don't want to have children of my own. I do not want anything to come between me and my work, or me and my partner. I like children and would love to be a fun uncle, but having a child would put a strain on my relationships. EDIT: I have known several people in my life who settled down to have kids way too quickly and don't seem like happy people. To me it always ends up putting a disproportionate burden on the mother, and I could never do that to my partner because it's very important that we have each other "to ourselves," so to speak. IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted December 08, 2015 10:05 PM
Mars in 5th hereI didn't want kids for most my life, i thought kids (and marriage) would take too much from my personal freedom. Now, I am 28 and have done quite a bit of living..moving around, travelli g, dating, being crazy and reckless lol...and now I DO want kids and marriage and a stable home life. I think it was my Sag moon keeping me from wanting kids but now i fulfilled a lot of my emotional needs and I no longer think kids and marriage are a hinderence but rather a way to round out my full life experience 😘 IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted December 08, 2015 10:16 PM
And I just want to say to those who think you can't achieve goals,travel, etc with kids...yes, you CAN. I see many women do it. They're impressive women, to say the least! No doubt it's harder..you just gotta do it in a different way. High five to all the Super Moms who raise good kids AND do the **** THEY wanna do 👍IP: Logged |
curiouspisces89
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posted December 09, 2015 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Mars in 5th hereI didn't want kids for most my life, i thought kids (and marriage) would take too much from my personal freedom. Now, I am 28 and have done quite a bit of living..moving around, travelli g, dating, being crazy and reckless lol...and now I DO want kids and marriage and a stable home life. I think it was my Sag moon keeping me from wanting kids but now i fulfilled a lot of my emotional needs and I no longer think kids and marriage are a hinderence but rather a way to round out my full life experience 😘
Nice! Can I just ask what sign is on the cusp of your 5th house?
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Sikanda
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posted December 09, 2015 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by frankie2912:
Mars in 5th hereI didn't want kids for most my life, i thought kids (and marriage) would take too much from my personal freedom. Now, I am 28 and have done quite a bit of living..moving around, travelli g, dating, being crazy and reckless lol...and now I DO want kids and marriage and a stable home life. I think it was my Sag moon keeping me from wanting kids but now i fulfilled a lot of my emotional needs and I no longer think kids and marriage are a hinderence but rather a way to round out my full life experience 😘
I believe this is how I'll feel too after some time, like the cycle is completed. But right now I'm at a different stage.
I am a year older than you but I'm not ashamed to say that I feel like I lack most of this life's experience. I have studied, right; I have a job, I have my hobbies (mainly art), I have (and have had) my crushes. All of that I value, but now I feel like I am lacking something. Like there is more to life than this; and there's a new dimension to it that until now I was not interested in.
Now I want to experience. I want to meet more likeminded peers, I want to travel and live in that place for my own, (I wish I would have travelled more), I want to meet people (I wish I had had more dating experience), etc. I want to do that before I settle for a stable life -and that includes kids, though not particularly a partner. I would love to have a partner with would understand my need to grow. I think contact with people make us change in meaningful ways. IP: Logged |
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