posted December 15, 2015 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Sylven:
Jupiter conjunct Midheaven

You will probably be inspired to seek adventure in your public domain, the freedom to explore unknown realms, whether this be the physical realms, or the realms of the mind. A good placement for someone aiming for the role of a leading church dignitary, a teacher, an educator, lecturer or therapist; in fact any role that may inspire faith in others. A good placement for a missionary, since Jupiter can provide the necessary faith and zeal to encourage and inspire others.

The placement of Jupiter in the chart will point to the domain of life through which we can expand the most in this life. As the most elevated planet this could suggest the expansion of knowledge, broadening not only ones own visions but sharing that knowledge with the world. Certainly teaching in one form or another would be an ideal medium through which to express this energy. This could also point to a desire to rise above the traditional, accepted and orthodox beliefs of society, stretching the mind to encompass higher learning and philosophies beyond the norm.

As the largest planet in our solar system the earth would fit into Jupiter over one thousand five hundred times, with room to spare. This could also suggest that there is the potential to rise to a position of some importance in life, one that carries a degree of status and prestige; something grander than just the ordinary and the mundane. This may not be at all evident on a conscious level yet prove to be a hidden driving force urging you to make something of yourself in the eyes of the world.

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posted December 15, 2015 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Sorry I talk about this a lot,.. But the guy I have loved the most in my life had his sun Aquarius and that's my mc so they must have conjunct or something!

Right now I'm dating a Capricorn and for some reason a lot of Capricorns I end up dating..(Aquarius and Capricorns I date a lot) This one has his Moon in Libra so that's pretty cool 🤔😝

I'm very changeable so that is probably my ASC Gemini manifested. I change too much for my own good! Haha lol

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posted December 15, 2015 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
^^as I said earlier, first we ought to get a full understanding of what the definition of career is.

The Queen & Michael Jordan are perfect examples of people who'd fit into your 2000 year old examples. None of the people in my list needed a formal education for their careers; Elizabeth, Jordan, Jackson, Jay-Z...

my point: Once you get a fuller understanding what a career is supposed to be mean, couple that with the symbology of the MC, then the association would make perfect sense.

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Oh ok I see what you mean

posted December 15, 2015 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
That's interesting you said your job is communication and you are a Mercury MC (Gemini)
I have Saturn in my 10th and I work with old people! Lmao!!!

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posted December 15, 2015 03:08 PM            

Which one comes off as more accurate to you?

posted December 15, 2015 08:58 PM            

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Its just that a lot of people see the MC as "your job" lol. It takes away from it being a natural part and expression of who you are

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Exactly. Your career is not your job. Also, while the Queen/Jordan/Jackson/Jay-Z didn't need a formal education for their careers, nonetheless they all had to work really hard achieve and maintain their positions...even the Queen.

First, a career has many definitions. Most appealing is the idea that it's an individual's journey through learning, work and other aspects of life.

The MC is where the Sun would be its most brilliant...in its journey through the sky. Thus, the MC can said to represent a person's illumination - the brightest spot in and of their life.

posted December 15, 2015 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Has anyone checked their horoscope for their MC, ASC and Sun sign yet? Even IC

Which one comes off as more accurate to you?

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posted December 15, 2015 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Exactly. Your career is not your job. Also, while the Queen/Jordan/Jackson/Jay-Z didn't need a formal education for their careers, nonetheless they all had to work really hard achieve and maintain their positions...even the Queen.

First, a career has many definitions. Most appealing is the idea that it's an individual's journey through learning, work and other aspects of life.

The MC is where the Sun would be its most brilliant...in its journey through the sky. Thus, the MC can said to represent a person's illumination - the brightest spot in and of their life.

In the modern meritocratic age mankind's energy is focused primarily unto professional advancement. Thus if anywhere a person will shine brightest here, in the professional arena. Hence the connection between MC (bright spot) & Career (area of interest).

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I still believe the term "career" is a very marginal way of seeing it. You can change your career, vocation, or anything that you are doing on a professional level. I see what you're saying, but relating it to your career is a very limited way of seeing it in my opinion.

posted December 15, 2015 11:00 PM            

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And I don't believe the Midheaven is something you work for, or "try" to accomplish. It is naturally you in every step of the way. By laws of attraction you may attract things and authority figures related to it, but thats because the midheaven is simply where your highest vibration is found. Thats just how I personally see it.

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posted December 16, 2015 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
So what you're saying is the MC is supernatural and undefinable.

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If thats how you see it

What I'm saying is that the MC/10th house/sign is where your highest expression is found. Can it be manifested in your career/vocation? Absolutely. But a career is not what I would use to define its position.

The MC is that special and transparent part of you that reaches out to people (whether you notice it or not they see it clearly). Its the highest point of the sun. You can hide from the sun when it rises, and sets. But when the Sun reaches high noon, there is nowhere you can go to hide from its light. It is exposed everywhere and it is seen by everyone clearly and easily.

The 10th house/sign of the house is where you see, and are seen clearly. The 9th house is said to be the house of God, spirituality, and studying. If so, then the 10th house that follows it is where that realization of ones self becomes exposed to the world. The 11th house is where it is shared on a group level. And the 12th house is where everything is let go and finalized until something brand new occurs again with the 1st house.

posted December 27, 2015 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:

What I'm saying is that the MC/10th house/sign is where your highest expression is found.

The MC is that special and transparent part of you that reaches out to people (whether you notice it or not they see it clearly). Its the highest point of the sun. You can hide from the sun when it rises, and sets. But when the Sun reaches high noon, there is nowhere you can go to hide from its light. It is exposed everywhere and it is seen by everyone clearly and easily.

The 10th house/sign of the house is where you see, and are seen clearly. The 9th house is said to be the house of God, spirituality, and studying. If so, then the 10th house that follows it is where that realization of ones self becomes exposed to the world.

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First off, great post.

I've a few questions -
1. When we consider the aspects made to the MC/IC or Asc/Dsc axis by other people's planets, does the orb count? Or there too, you prefer to go by sign rather than orb?

posted December 27, 2015 05:19 PM            

Thia post is great and what do you make of this the chart? The reason I said Kurt Cobain is because ive never, NEVER connected with a musician such as him. Its scary.

posted December 27, 2015 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Guys do me a favor and check the horoscopes for the signs of your MC, ASC, and Sun..

Tell me which one you find to be more accurate...

Im being curious right now

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I always feel that I experience the Ascendant horoscope more than Sun sign. And because I am female, I resonate more with the moon horoscope in relationship to my moods throughout the month. The Sun's horoscope is often least accurate for me.

But that's why I use astro.com to see what transits I am personally going through and I compare that to the horoscopes.

posted December 27, 2015 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
What I'm saying is that the MC/10th house/sign is where your highest expression is found. Can it be manifested in your career/vocation? Absolutely. But a career is not what I would use to define its position.

The MC is that special and transparent part of you that reaches out to people (whether you notice it or not they see it clearly). Its the highest point of the sun. You can hide from the sun when it rises, and sets. But when the Sun reaches high noon, there is nowhere you can go to hide from its light. It is exposed everywhere and it is seen by everyone clearly and easily.

The 10th house/sign of the house is where you see, and are seen clearly. The 9th house is said to be the house of God, spirituality, and studying. If so, then the 10th house that follows it is where that realization of ones self becomes exposed to the world. The 11th house is where it is shared on a group level. And the 12th house is where everything is let go and finalized until something brand new occurs again with the 1st house.

I agree with everything you're saying. I just feel like "defining" it as a career placement doesn't really hit the nail on the head. At least with me. Im just sharing my opinion thats all

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Exactly how I feel about it too.

posted December 27, 2015 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
If thats how you see it

What I'm saying is that the MC/10th house/sign is where your highest expression is found. Can it be manifested in your career/vocation? Absolutely. But a career is not what I would use to define its position.

The MC is that special and transparent part of you that reaches out to people (whether you notice it or not they see it clearly). Its the highest point of the sun. You can hide from the sun when it rises, and sets. But when the Sun reaches high noon, there is nowhere you can go to hide from its light. It is exposed everywhere and it is seen by everyone clearly and easily.

The 10th house/sign of the house is where you see, and are seen clearly. The 9th house is said to be the house of God, spirituality, and studying. If so, then the 10th house that follows it is where that realization of ones self becomes exposed to the world. The 11th house is where it is shared on a group level. And the 12th house is where everything is let go and finalized until something brand new occurs again with the 1st house.

I agree with everything you're saying. I just feel like "defining" it as a career placement doesn't really hit the nail on the head. At least with me. Im just sharing my opinion thats all

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NYC, also do you think the powers of the MC can be accessed by will? Do you think the key to mastering yourself and life is in the MC? I have a Leo MC, Mars Conjunct. Sun is in 4th.

Ive been doing A LOT of meditation. And research about the conscious and unconscious brain. They say to become your most powerful self and recognize your inner gifts one must find their highest consciousness.

posted December 27, 2015 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
My Leo Ascendant is definitely not a mask either. I come across in real life (looks, dress, mannerisms, communications) and through text/email more like my Ascendant than my Sun sign. I teared up and cried a little when I learned about Ascendant signs because I thought something was wrong with me for not fitting the stereotype of a Virgo.

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Wow, that's quite an experience. It's so nice to find things in the study of astrology that *click* with our real selves.

When you say Asc horoscope and moon horoscope, do you mean the persona charts?

posted December 27, 2015 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:

Wow, that's quite an experience. It's so nice to find things in the study of astrology that *click* with our real selves.

When you say Asc horoscope and moon horoscope, do you mean the persona charts?

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I literally read the monthly horoscope intended for those signs.

I read Leo first (my Asc) for the big picture. Then, I read Sag (my Moon) to learn how my moods might change through the month. Lastly, I read Virgo (my Sun) for no other reason than to see if any of it makes sense (it usually does not).

EDIT: For day-to-day stuff, I turn to astro.com for data.

posted December 27, 2015 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Geeky:
I literally read the monthly horoscope intended for those signs.

I read Leo first (my Asc) for the big picture. Then, I read Sag (my Moon) to learn how my moods might change through the month. Lastly, I read Virgo (my Sun) for no other reason than to see if any of it makes sense (it usually does not).

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posted December 27, 2015 08:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
First off, great post.

I've a few questions -
1. When we consider the aspects made to the MC/IC or Asc/Dsc axis by other people's planets, does the orb count? Or there too, you prefer to go by sign rather than orb?

2. I'm a fire void, but I have a Saggy MC. People at work see me as an upbeat, optimistic, warm person. And I do espouse causes (although that's not strictly in the job description lol, I just somehow sniff out a cause and try to help with it best as I can). That's the placement that best explains any initiatives I take (in career or otherwise). You think that's the Saggy MC manifesting itself?

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To answer your first question, I don't really believe in orbs when it comes to the major aspects. Thats just me. So yes, it would still be felt, ESPECIALLY with the angles. Their planet (in my experience) does not have to be exactly on your MC/IC. It being in its cusp/sign alone will still generate much influence. Funny thing is, i've noticed a lot of wide/out-of-orb aspects being more influential than tight/exact orb aspects.

#2 Yes, possibly. Your MC is your highest/most genuine expression. It is the effect you have on people/things/situations/ as well as yourself. Your IC is where your highest expression comes from. It is the cause/reason for who you are and your character. I call the MC/IC axis the "cause and effect" axis. It happens very naturally and genuinely. You don't even have to think or try to express it.

posted December 27, 2015 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
NYC, also do you think the powers of the MC can be accessed by will? Do you think the key to mastering yourself and life is in the MC? I have a Leo MC, Mars Conjunct. Sun is in 4th.

Ive been doing A LOT of meditation. And research about the conscious and unconscious brain. They say to become your most powerful self and recognize your inner gifts one must find their highest consciousness.

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posted December 27, 2015 09:44 PM            

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If thats how you see it

What I'm saying is that the MC/10th house/sign is where your highest expression is found. Can it be manifested in your career/vocation? Absolutely. But a career is not what I would use to define its position.

The MC is that special and transparent part of you that reaches out to people (whether you notice it or not they see it clearly). Its the highest point of the sun. You can hide from the sun when it rises, and sets. But when the Sun reaches high noon, there is nowhere you can go to hide from its light. It is exposed everywhere and it is seen by everyone clearly and easily.

The 10th house/sign of the house is where you see, and are seen clearly. The 9th house is said to be the house of God, spirituality, and studying. If so, then the 10th house that follows it is where that realization of ones self becomes exposed to the world. The 11th house is where it is shared on a group level. And the 12th house is where everything is let go and finalized until something brand new occurs again with the 1st house.

I agree with everything you're saying. I just feel like "defining" it as a career placement doesn't really hit the nail on the head. At least with me. Im just sharing my opinion thats all...

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posted December 27, 2015 10:00 PM            

His 7th house Ruler is Neptune which squares my Moon on his DC and conjuncts his IC-Vertex and my Southnode and AC.

My AC in Sag @23d39
His Neptune in Sag @21d24
His Vertex in Sag @20d56
His IC in Sag @20d00
My Southnode in Sag @19d41
His DC in Pisces @20d00
My Moon in Pisces @21d40

posted December 27, 2015 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Great post!

His 7th house Ruler is Neptune which squares my Moon on his DC and conjuncts his IC-Vertex and my Southnode and AC.

My AC in Sag @23d39
His Neptune in Sag @21d24
His Vertex in Sag @20d56
His IC in Sag @20d00
My Southnode in Sag @19d41
His DC in Pisces @20d00
My Moon in Pisces @21d40

I felt drawn to him like a magnet when I met him and walked up to him and started to kiss him and we kissed none stop for like two hours and then exchanged names and phone numbers. He touched me on a extremely deep level and its one of those people you never forget that feel like they are tattooed to your soul.

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