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Gemini30
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posted December 29, 2015 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a rant to all of you.

Why are you people so unreliable? Why do you have your heads so far up in the clouds? Why are you people such liars, and most of you are terrible at it?

Why do you always come into my life only to hurt me so badly? Why do you all talk this spiritual nonsense when you yourselves don't even follow it? Why do you never follow through? Why are you all so lost in thought? Why don't you ever come down to Earth? Why don't you accept that we are here and not in some etheral make believe place?

Why all so many of you promiscuous and cheat? Why do i keep falling for you Neptunians?

Why? Whyyy? WHY!!!!???

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bananaz
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posted December 29, 2015 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sorry you were hurt, but not all Neptunians have the qualities you describe.

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DopGang
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posted December 29, 2015 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
Im sorry you were hurt, but not all Neptunians have the qualities you describe.


This thread probably won't go well.

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Faith
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posted December 29, 2015 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gemini30:
This is a rant to all of you.

Why are you people so unreliable? Why do you have your heads so far up in the clouds? Why are you people such liars, and most of you are terrible at it?

Why do you always come into my life only to hurt me so badly? Why do you all talk this spiritual nonsense when you yourselves don't even follow it? Why do you never follow through? Why are you all so lost in thought? Why don't you ever come down to Earth? Why don't you accept that we are here and not in some etheral make believe place?

Why all so many of you promiscuous and cheat? Why do i keep falling for you Neptunians?

Why? Whyyy? WHY!!!!???


This doesn't make you feel any better, does it?

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Comatoes
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posted December 29, 2015 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say Neptunian, I'm guessing you mean major aspects of Neptune to Sun, Moon, Asc., or Pisces Sun/Moon, or Sun/Moon in 12th house? That would be the strongest in Neptunian characteristics.

I could be wrong but I truly think it may be projection or a drawing of energies to you for some life path reason. You indicated as much when you said you are drawn to Neptunians. I don't know your chart. But usually when someone has deep issues with something or someone is because most times these very things are also within themselves. People come into your life so you can learn to work with your own "demons"... You will continually fail until you start understanding why. Hopefully other people can help you through this thread.

People tend to blame Neptune a lot but they fail to put themselves in the equation. But that is only because they probably don't know Neptune is not just deception, rose-colored glasses and wool being pulled over your eyes. Neptune is breaking through boundaries, finally realizing things exist outside reality and getting beyond "fake", all things affected by Neptune are unclothed and left vulnerable, like a newborn babe coming from heaven. Neptune wants you to see the light, it is the light. Neptune is like a Mirror or reflection, it always reflects back what is there, the person just refuses to see it, but that is your own fault. Planets never harm, they only show. Humans harm each other. Neptune is no more deceptive as it is a truth teller. Neptune is weird that way.

For the record, I'm Neptunian and I'm nothing as you described. But that is to be expected because every chart is different. Stereotypes do nothing for astrology but they make good drama -- drama is another Neptunian feature as well...Everybody's experience with other people is their experience alone, it doesn't make it de facto.

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Empty Spaces
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posted December 29, 2015 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have strong neptune in my chart and the only person I hurt with all this DREAMY-DELUSIONAL condition is MYSELF.

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hannaramaa
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posted December 30, 2015 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
I truly think it may be projection or a drawing of energies to you for some life path reason. You indicated as much when you said you are drawn to Neptunians. I don't know your chart. But usually when someone has deep issues with something or someone is because most times these very things are also within themselves.

SAY IT LOUDER!!!!

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deepseablues
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posted December 30, 2015 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepseablues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:

Why don't you accept that we are here and not in some etheral make believe place?



Here is some make believe place, it's just not ethereal.

Well the nature parts can be but a lot of that has been effed up by humans. And if you're poor the truly ethereal places can be hard to access...


Sigh....

You probably won't get the answers you want from Neptunians. Though this thread makes me giggle.


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StubbornVirgo
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posted December 30, 2015 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I have strong neptune in my chart and the only person I hurt with all this DREAMY-DELUSIONAL condition is MYSELF.

Right? I'm the same way.

I'm sorry you've had such negative experiences with people who have Pisces and/or a lot of Neptune in their chart. Not every person, or even most people, with those traits in their charts are that way.

There's been a lot of good explanations and suggestions posted here already, so I won't repeat them...I will say that maybe you should check your synastry/composite with said Neptunians. If you're a Gemini Sun, then some hard squares (or other aspects) might be to blame, rather than an entire astrological sign.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 30, 2015 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith

I resonate with all those pics so much

Sun-Neptune conjunct
Neptune-Jupiter conjunct

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PaulMcFly
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posted December 30, 2015 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulMcFly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I told you people on thos site hate anything and everything piscean. I literally just.made a post about thos..

AGH! OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES AND SEE BEYOND WHAT IS TANGIBLE.

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hypatia238
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posted December 30, 2015 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:

This doesn't make you feel any better, does it?


Awesomeness, you rock!

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hypatia238
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posted December 30, 2015 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
This is a rant to all of you.

Why are you people so unreliable? Why do you have your heads so far up in the clouds? Why are you people such liars, and most of you are terrible at it?

Why do you always come into my life only to hurt me so badly? Why do you all talk this spiritual nonsense when you yourselves don't even follow it? Why do you never follow through? Why are you all so lost in thought? Why don't you ever come down to Earth? Why don't you accept that we are here and not in some etheral make believe place?

Why all so many of you promiscuous and cheat? Why do i keep falling for you Neptunians?

Why? Whyyy? WHY!!!!???


Well for what is worth being neptunian is a hugeeeee pain in my ass so instead of hating us maybe you can try to feel empathy...how do you think we feel? You think all those things you just described us as are fun for us???? You think we enjoy it? We are doing our best to get through it all, sorry if neptunians are letting you down but perhaps learn to enjoy the moments you have with us for what they are moments and don't expect so much from us...

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hypatia238
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posted December 30, 2015 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
I have strong neptune in my chart and the only person I hurt with all this DREAMY-DELUSIONAL condition is MYSELF.

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Dreaminess
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posted December 30, 2015 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its so laughable when people don't answer your question when it comes to something negative about their sign/planet/placement but instead talk about how great their sign/planet/placement is or how it might be your fault or whatever lol. Why bother come to a thread just to rant about something the thread maker never asked for? Yeah we get it not all people are the same and blah blah but this thread wasn't about the good side of this planet/sign, get over it. Yes a lot of nepunians can be unreliable and i think it comes from them having a hard time saying no and that makes them give out promises they might not always keep. And the lying gosh tbh i`ve never understood why they do so much of that..
I am a bit neptunian myself but i think i will never be able to trust another strongly influenced pisces/neptune person tbh. Too easily changed for my taste, i don't trust people like that. My cancer moon can't stand all the pretending and mimicking that i have seen too many times from them, it just feels the fakeness. I esp can't stand it when some of them fall in love and tries their best to "be" their love interest, it seems so fake to me. Just be yourself. My advice to you is to just try to stay away if you can't handle their bad sides.

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12muddy
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posted December 30, 2015 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
but they fail to put themselves in the equation.

Lol this is probably the most profound thing I've read this evening.

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I'm sorry that you got hurt.

About neppy influence... To me not having a bit of fantasy in life is like not living at all. Neppy is quite busy in my chart.

And that's just the way some neptunians are.

Oh I like this one here. Some of my placements don't quite agree, but I think it's lovely nonetheless.

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Empty Spaces
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posted December 30, 2015 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StubbornVirgo

What???I dont have problems with people who have pisces in their charts

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DopGang
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posted December 30, 2015 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit:

Nevermind. It's probably best that I don't get involved.

I will say: accusatory statements will result in defensive responses almost every time.

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Empty Spaces
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posted December 30, 2015 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dopgang

What a pit..I loved your opinion

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Elysia
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posted December 30, 2015 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's so great about reality anyway?

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I'm going to assume you know that not all Neptunian souls are like that, just the ones you happen to meet.

Now that that's out of the way, back to your question. Maybe there's a reason you keep being drawn to them. Something inside you draws that ethereal energy. Maybe a touch of Neptune magic is just what you need.

All we can do is learn, and in this case, one of the lessons would be to be careful with your heart. Whether you give it to a Neptunian, Uranian, Vulcan or Cretacean.

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(I'm more Plutonic than Neptunian, I guess. But I have enough of the make-believe gene to answer this question).

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DopGang
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posted December 30, 2015 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Empty Spaces:
Dopgang

What a pit..I loved your opinion


It gets me trouble though.

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bananaz
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posted December 30, 2015 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Dreaminess No one is answering the questions because no one is taking this thread seriously. Gemini is ranting and projecting on all of us. This is clearly a hate on Neptune thread. We're all cheaters? Really? Not the case, and even more so for those who have loyal moon signs. I have 4 planets in Pisces/12th house and Neptune conjunct my midheaven and never cheated a day in my life.

Answering those questions would be a waste of time. It would be like me starting a thread bashing Aries and saying, Why do you have to be so angry and violent all the time? Clearly that question would be based off my experience and not a valid question for all Aries.

What Gemini needs is to go back to the person or persons that this thread is about. Thats the only real way to get answers.

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Faith
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posted December 30, 2015 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Aries23Degrees & hypatia.

Re: the thread

I tried to answer the triple WHY at the end of Gemini30's rant, with three images (one for each "why.") Now some words to explain. ETA: Because Saturn is transiting conjunct my Neptune, so I'm driven to try and "structure" the clouds.

1) Neptunians are the music makers and dreamers of dreams. We prioritize harmony and will sometimes do things to preserve or create superficial sense of harmony, at the expense of deeper engagement. For instance, I couldn't even read Gemini30's entire rant without feeling that something was sadly amiss. So I skimmed and reacted the way I wanted to, with a red heart and pretty pictures. I didn't engage, I harmonized topically. But I wouldn't have even done that much except I know myself ~ I can always find the good in people and focus on that.

2) Neptunians understand that "reality" is a mess of misleading social constructs. We take quantum leaps to navigate from here to there. It's impossible to explain the mechanism or the reasoning, you either get it or you don't. What we see as a crucial, efficient shortcut, others may see as negligence and shirking responsibility. But perhaps we weren't actually finished the task yet, and perhaps we don't want to argue, we'll just take your criticism and hold to our long-term vision. It becomes a mystery to others, that they find maddening. But sorry, you just can't always see the motivations of the zodiac's final sign.

3) Neptune/Pisces has the task of alleviating suffering. This task is so important that it can make other goals look trivial. "Why are you five minutes late, Pisces?" "I was feeding a homeless person." "Oh you are so unreliable and you're probably lying, too!" Those who honor the heart above practical details are forced to make judgment calls that could threaten their reputations.

This is also where cheating and lying may come in. Pisces needs to serve everyone, including those who hate each other, and they may cover their tracks to prevent getting caught in the crossfire. I think they love honesty, but the truth is sometimes not black and white; yet people demand for it to be, leaving Pisces universalism undefended. Pisces/Neptune would also be "serving two masters" when they're deeply enmeshed in the obligations of one relationship but their hearts are someplace else. Rather than making clean breaks and hurting everyone including themselves, they may "multitask" and end up loving more than one person at once, just in different ways. Not to excuse this...but you see, it's usually a problem of excess love.

That being said, Pisces suns are amongst the most practical and down-to-earth people I have known. I don't consider them cheaters. Pisces moons have our flaws but a general interest in helping & supporting others is there.

And this post is not to excuse and pardon all regressive Neptune behavior...just a reminder that what seems backwards to you may be forwards to someone else. Everything is relative.

Please don't quote, I may want to edit.

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polkadotstars
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posted December 30, 2015 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
Why do i keep falling for you Neptunians?

It seems to me that you keep attracting and falling for Neptunians and you keep being hurt by them. Maybe you're associating yourself with people who aren't good for you. If you are seeing patterns in the people who you date or who are hurting you, maybe you need to evaluate why you are attracting these people.

I know a lot of Neptunians who are wonderful people. I know some that are not so wonderful. This goes for all groups of zodiac signs. Blaming and characterizing one group of people for your pain sounds to me like you are avoiding analyzing your own energy that you put out there. Work on improving yourself and surround yourself with people who only make you a better person and you will find yourself much happier. You'll be able to repel negative people before they hurt you.

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posted December 30, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
It seems to me that you keep attracting and falling for Neptunians and you keep being hurt by them. Maybe you're associating yourself with people who aren't good for you. If you are seeing patterns in the people who you date or who are hurting you, maybe you need to evaluate why you are attracting these people.

I know a lot of Neptunians who are wonderful people. I know some that are not so wonderful. This goes for all groups of zodiac signs. Blaming and characterizing one group of people for your pain sounds to me like you are avoiding analyzing your own energy that you put out there. Work on improving yourself and surround yourself with people who only make you a better person and you will find yourself much happier. You'll be able to repel negative people before they hurt you.


Great post!
I relate as I've had to do this. I found out that I was the problem.

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