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Ami Anne
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posted January 11, 2016 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seemed to like Part One, so I am at your service with Part Two. There are various manners in which one can be insecure, so I will add specific information to each entry.

1. Saturn in the 5th House
This insecurity lies in letting go. Letting go and acting from one’s child is one of the best experiences in the world. One has to be secure enough to look silly and to be judged. This is very hard for some natives. Saturn in the 5th House would be classic for this.

2. Venus conjunct Saturn.

This native feels as if he is not lovable enough because he is not perfect enough. We all strive for perfection, I think. It is one of the flaws in the current society A woman does not feel good if she is a size 14. She must be a size 6. That is the kind of striving that I mean, but this native strives in the area of being good enough to be loved.

3. Dejanira conjunct the Ascendant

This native feels she must please others. She feels that her identity lies in her value to others. Again, most of us struggle with some version of this but Dejanira conjunct the Ascendant gets a triple dose.

4. Mars in Cancer

This native stuffs her emotions. She looks with envy at a Mars in Scorpio or Aries who can rage when he is violated. She makes a tiny whimper and then eats a package of Oreos.

5. The Water Void

The Water Void is, always, a little different. She is akin to being an alien, if we push a point. The Water Void may miss subtle cues such as your staring at the door and falling asleep on the table. She may miss jokes. She may miss insults and insult others, without knowing. Hence, this Void can make for insecurity in relating socially.

6. Libra Ascendant

Too vain. I will put myself on here. If I insult other people, it is not fair to leave myself out.

7. Aphosis conjunct the Sun

I have just started to use this asteroid and find that it is a big, dark hole( a bit exaggerated for literary purposes) Aphosis is the god of chaos. Hence, this native is akin to PigPen in Charlies Brown. He stirs up a layer of dust and showers it on all.

9. Venus in Scorpio

They get mad when I say this, but I say everyone gets mad when you tell the secrets they are hiding. Venus in Scorpio is very intense when in love and very, very passionate sexually. Most who have been honest with me tell me that they feel insecure about this slice of themselves. Now, when we have Mars in Scorpio, they glory in the very same thing that makes Venus inn Scorpio cringe. Go figure.

10. Sedna conjunct the Ascendant

Sedna has had terrible betrayal by the father. I have an article that tells the story, but I, literally, cried when I read it. This native seems to go from a bad father to a bad husband to another bad husband or boyfriends.

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I feel like you're working through some personal issues with this list.

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posted January 11, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Elysia:
Lol, right??!! But Ami has nothing to be insecure about. No one does. Everyone is perfectly imperfect.

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posted January 11, 2016 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 11, 2016 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could also make a case for Moon in Scorpio or moon hard aspect to pluto.

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posted January 11, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
DS


I love you, too, Ami Anne

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posted January 11, 2016 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
You could also make a case for Moon in Scorpio or moon hard aspect to pluto.

YES I was thinking of that, G.

That will be part 3
Venus Retro
Moon in Scorpio
Moon conj Pluto(close orb)
Venus conj Pluto( close orb)

Any other ideas, fellow Gemini

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posted January 11, 2016 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YES I was thinking of that, G.

That will be part 3
Venus Retro
Moon in Scorpio
Moon conj Pluto(close orb)
Venus conj Pluto( close orb)

Any other ideas, fellow Gemini


Sure! Moon hard aspect to Saturn. Basically any personal planet to Saturn.

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posted January 11, 2016 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in 2nd house

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posted January 11, 2016 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mamawolf:
Chiron in 2nd house

YES!

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posted January 11, 2016 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in 5th - definitely held back when I was younger, not so much now as an old woman - not as worried about popular opinion any more.

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posted January 11, 2016 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
Saturn in 5th - definitely held back when I was younger, not so much now as an old woman - not as worried about popular opinion any more.

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posted January 11, 2016 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I have 3 of these and a few similar aspects. I must admit insecurity is sometimes a struggle for me, but on the other side of the spectrum sometimes I can be vain (maybe the Libra ascendant?). I'm working through that though, it's all a process

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posted January 11, 2016 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 11, 2016 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Square Moon
Moon Square Pluto
Chiron in 5th

Quite a combo to have

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posted January 11, 2016 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LF DX:
Sun Square Moon
Moon Square Pluto
Chiron in 5th

Quite a combo to have


How close, my Friend?

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posted January 12, 2016 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Square Moon 1°49
Moon Square Pluto 3°20
But also have Moon Square Mars at 3°47, a bit wide already, but their effects are indeed very powerful in my life.

And I guess Chiron in the 5th house is bad enough to cause a great degree of insecurities.

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posted January 12, 2016 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you talk to me about Mars sq Pluto? How does it feel? How does it manifest? Thanks

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Deeply sorry, did a mistake, It was Moon Square Mars what I wanted to say, not Mars Square Pluto, But I have a Mars Conjunct Pluto nearly exact, that brings a lot of intense energy that unfortunately I don't expell it in an appropiate way, and that makes me a very irritable man in general, and very obsessive

To clarity the error, here's my chart

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posted January 12, 2016 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wrist is bothering me. I should rest it but I love doing charts so much

Isis conj Chiron

Do you have the pattern of being super loyal and pain comes from it.

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posted January 12, 2016 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Osiris conj SN. Have you gotten into all sorts of tight spots that seem as if they have no way out, as kind of a life pattern?

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WOW Look at your Moon--almost Unaspected. That is very hard--little nurturing from your mom.

I forgot about that but it is one of the hardest aspects to have--Unaspected Moon, that is.

Yours makes one close square to the Sun--head and heart fight each other and become locked

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Oh my lovely Venus conjunct Saturn, and my Mars in Cancer.

I have always feeling like I'm not good enough and sometimes when I think how I will live with someone in same house, cause of my complex, well, hah.. must work on it.

But my Mars in Cancer, I keep my emotions inside myself, that's very true, so not to be hurt. But I'm actually very loud when I'm angry and protect myself or someone. Not just then, I can be very nervous and anger can come quickly without warning.

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posted January 12, 2016 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paraguay - Spanish is my native language.

I'd wish to learn more about Isis conj Chiron and Osiris - SN please, I'd never trully understand their impact yet that much.

But to your questions, yes, sometimes I'm too loyal with some people, but that's what kept me with a deep, troublesome sometimes, but reliable circle of friends, but with some painful experiences on the road

Yes, I've got some horrible life patterns that are very hard to change them. Like my unability to mantain close relationships with women, being an obsessive person, being too carried away with my emotions, those are the ones that comes into my mind right now.

And yep, I recieved very little nuturing from my mom for most of my life, not on purpose cause she had a lot of **** during those years, by work, stress, and my very authoritarian father, and now, since my parents divorced, she's trying hard, but the damage is well done, but in these past few years we got closer, but up to this day, I think I won't be able to have a true close relationship with my mother for a lot of reasons I won't speak right now.

And yeah, that sun square moon is quite a thing, lots of inner conflicts in my life.

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posted January 12, 2016 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd wish to learn more about Isis conj Chiron and Osiris - SN please, I'd never trully understand their impact yet that much.

Isis is super loyal and devoted. The conjunction with Chiron tells us that this side of you may be a big cause of your deepest life pain.

Osiris gets into messes and he needs someone to bail him out.

I am gonna write an article on him and will put it in the asteroid Forum.

His conjunction to the SN shows that you may have this pattern, through no fault of your own BUT you don't have to be stuck with it.

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