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margym0o
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posted January 12, 2016 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use both Astrodienst and Astrotheme for different reasons but what do you do when they don't match up?

I have found that Astrotheme will pick up aspects that Astrodienst has missed, i.e. planets look unaspected in an Astrodienst chart meanwhile they aren't when you run it in Astrotheme.

Likewise, sometimes I find that Astrotheme will miss the obvious (like a 4 degree Sun-Venus conjunction in a composite chart) whereas Astrodienst will show it.

I'd say 95% of the charts I see on this site are generated with Astrodienst.

What if they're wrong?

For example, a chart I'm doing in Astrotheme shows a 5 degree trine between Sun and Venus and Astrodienst doesn't pick this up, even going so far as to say the Sun is completely unaspected when Astrotheme shows there's actually 3 aspects to the Sun from Venus, Mars and Mercury.

And for the record the orbs were not adjusted in Astrodienst.

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Elysia
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posted January 12, 2016 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure Astro dienst counts 5 degree orbs for aspects such as trines...

But I vote astrodienst for their extended chart selection feature! Great range of charts..

Also, the interactive composite, with explanations side-by-side, is great for beginners.

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PixieMG
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posted January 12, 2016 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer Astrotheme because I like the design much more (I can't help it!), and, in my case, I don't see many discrepancies with Astro. As a newbie, I found Astrotheme less intimidating, but I always check both, one thing that I like about Astro is that it has more asteroids and you can choose which ones to show, in Astrotheme the transits and Solar Returns charts are not as customizable.

One thing that I don't like is that none of them have my actual birthplace, I have to pick up the closest town, I'd be nice if I could enter the coordinates.

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Sikanda
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posted January 12, 2016 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm fairly new to chart reading, but I often use Astrodiesnt. Exactly, the extended chart selection is a big plus! Besides I like reading charts in Liz Greene style, I find this style very useful while simple.

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Seimei
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posted January 12, 2016 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieMG:
I prefer Astrotheme because I like the design much more (I can't help it!), and, in my case, I don't see many discrepancies with Astro. As a newbie, I found Astrotheme less intimidating, but I always check both, one thing that I like about Astro is that it has more asteroids and you can choose which ones to show, in Astrotheme the transits and Solar Returns charts are not as customizable.

One thing that I don't like is that none of them have my actual birthplace, I have to pick up the closest town, I'd be nice if I could enter the coordinates.



PixieMG
I you want I can make you one by coordinates, saw your chart in other thread, I suppose you could have Aries on MC if off much.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 12, 2016 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrodienst all the waaay 😛

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Spongebob
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posted January 12, 2016 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrotheme is kinda wonky when it comes to calculating properly. This is why sometimes the two websites will give you totally different ascendants for one person even when you use the same birth data.

In short Astrodienst is more accurate. Plus Astrodienst tends to actually double check the birth times in their celebrity database. Astrotheme will go with whatever anyone submits as a birth time.

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margym0o
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posted January 12, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you trust the degrees/orbs that Astrodienst calculates?

As in, if Astrotheme does say there is an aspect between the Sun and Venus/Mercury/Mars let's say, then in reality there probably isn't or it shouldn't be counted?

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PixieMG
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posted January 13, 2016 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
[QUOTE]PixieMG
If you want I can make you one by coordinates, saw your chart in other thread, I suppose you could have Aries on MC if off much.

Would you? That would be great! Let me know what you need, at your convenience


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Spongebob
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posted January 13, 2016 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by margym0o:
Would you trust the degrees/orbs that Astrodienst calculates?

As in, if Astrotheme does say there is an aspect between the Sun and Venus/Mercury/Mars let's say, then in reality there probably isn't or it shouldn't be counted?


Astrodienst does use wide orbs, that's true. I never paid much attention to the orbs at Astrotheme. Even so, there's ways at Astrodienst of changing the orbs so that anything you consider to be too wide of an orb, doesn't show up in your results.

In "Extended Chart Selection", it's under the "Options" category : "Reduce/increase orbs"

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Seimei
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posted January 19, 2016 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
done here,,'
Thank you,,margym0o

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fiola
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posted January 19, 2016 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fiola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use astrotheme for different features, for example it shows the meaning of the placement (according to sign and house) of a planet, its easier to read, and i get a personified horoscope, it's a great tool to help you understand a chart, while astrodienst gives you a wide range of tools if you've mastered the basics of a chart (such as adding the asteroids of your choice, so many types of charts could be generated..etc).
So it's really depending on what i have in mind.

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Mystic_Cat
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posted January 19, 2016 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely astrodienst purely for the reason you can play around with the charts and include all stars and asteroids, plus you can look it at it from a fixed star perspective.

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mirage29
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posted January 19, 2016 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Astrodienst all the waaay 😛

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PixieMG
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posted January 19, 2016 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
Just remembered this PixieMG again I should say..
You don't need to give me the name, it may not be in my atlas either. However if you give me coordinates I can create and name place anything you want (Pixie Born Here) date and time of course and I will post here. Could do a few if you want,I can just remove after you have copied and saved. I cannot show asteroids (on wheel) other than Ceres,Pallas,Juno,Vesta. I also have Chiron, ISIS-TRANSPLUTO and the other 8 hypotheticals. Sadly my programs choice for BML and Priapus are not h21 and h22 which I think are critical but you can get that from astrodienst.
I guess you just need to have one with correct ascendant, MC, vertex, EA, PA, CA AND Pars fortune as only they will change with
small change in location.
I 'll bookmark thread this time, check back 2 see if u caught this

Anything will be much appreciated as I'm completely new to all this.

My data:
Birthday:07/21/1986
Birth time:05:10 AM
Birth place coordinates: 32° 41′ 0″ S, 61° 32′ 0 W

Many many thanks!

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Seimei
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posted January 19, 2016 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Seimei
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posted January 20, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for PixieMG

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PixieMG
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posted January 20, 2016 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieMG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Seimei, I'll save this data to read in detail later today! I get the coordinates from Wikipedia and checked with Google Maps.

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Seimei
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posted January 20, 2016 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moved it to your post
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/233976.html

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