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Topic: Venus-Saturn folks, what do you need...?
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Elysia unregistered
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posted January 16, 2016 08:41 AM
This it to all those who have (or have known people with) Venus-Saturn aspects natally. Esp. the conjunction, but other aspects also welcome. What are you like, romantically? I get the sense that you guys tend to keep long-term lovers at arm's length and feel alone even while in a relationship? You're very responsible towards your lovers & family, but you don't actually let emotional vulnerability show. Is that so? If not, what are your personal experiences? Also, more importantly - what do you need/want in a partner? (Do include your moon sign in your answer). Please discuss... IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 16, 2016 09:11 AM
Edit:Notice to readers: Randall banned Elysia without ever explaining to her or anyone else why she was banned. Such a high-quality person and excellent astrologer, coldly removed from this site, while hateful people have been allowed to stay. That says everything about this place. I wouldn't be making this comment except Randall refuses to unregister me; I'm left with the ability to edit my posts. So I do. IP: Logged |
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posted January 16, 2016 09:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith:
ETA: Oops, it's 5.59 degrees.
I hear your 6th house sun, ma chérie. Yes, all aspects that can be *felt* are welcome. I'm rather lenient with orbs. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1026 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted January 16, 2016 09:36 AM
Husband has the conjunction and I have the square. It's actually the opposite of feeling alone. We're both the type of people to take relationships seriously and long-term. He even has Sag Venus, which is known for getting bored fast, but we've been together 8 years now and before me he had a gf for 2.5 years. And I have Pisces Venus, which isn't typically compatible with Sag.One thing I notice about us is that our relationship gets better with time. We love each other 100x more, and work 100x harder to ensure each other's happiness. In the beginning there were times we should have broken up. Somehow, we keep evolving though. We even fight differently than we did before. In the beginning, we fought with anger, trying our best to hurt each other. Now when we argue, it's to try to understand where the other person is coming from, and to get our points across because we're actually care about the outcome. In a lot of ways, we've grown up and gained maturity through the course of the relationship, which is totally Saturn. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1026 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted January 16, 2016 09:46 AM
***** Sorry just saw you requested moon signs. Mine is Leo. Hubby's is Libra. I need loyalty, looooots of affection, laughter, similar interests and reliability. Hubby needs encouragement, praise, affection and fun and games (many of his planets fall in the 5th house). Hubby trusts me completely and is non-jealous type. I get a little jealous but not very often, and I trust him completely as well.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 16, 2016 09:54 AM
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 16, 2016 10:03 AM
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Elysia unregistered
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posted January 16, 2016 10:09 AM
Thanks for your responses~! I understand a little better now. bananaz, Good to hear that.. Guess both of you having those aspects helps, as does similar interests. Faith, wow.. that's quite a lot going on. I absolutely get the over-sensitive bit. Also, come to think of it, Sag venus considers shared values an important part of love - but you love deeply and stick around in spite of some of that (such as astrology), being missing (for lack of a better word). Maybe that's Saturn too...? The person I know has zero shared interests with their loved one. Personally, I think a mix of similar and different interests are good. And in love, we mutually explore what the other finds fulfilling. In this case, the loved one is not even willing to explore or tolerate any of them (as a small example - won't accompany partner to a movie/to the theatre, ever. Or even watch at home together). Things like that - big and small, make the other person feel unhappy and stifled eventually. I was wondering if Venus-Saturn is the glue that holds it together. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted January 16, 2016 10:13 AM
Venus conjunct saturn in capricorn. What are you like, romantically? - I'm pretty romantic. Well, more like very romantic, but I think that comes from venus conj neptune. Saturn makes me think of responsibilities, terms and conditions. I usually get the saturn-related stuff out of the way first, then I dish out the romance. I get the sense that you guys tend to keep long-term lovers at arm's length and feel alone even while in a relationship? - No I don't do this. Saturn likes love and partnership. To me, a good relationship requires honesty, transparency, understanding...etc... all that good stuff. Keeping people at arms' length doesn't help me to get those good things. You're very responsible towards your lovers & family, but you don't actually let emotional vulnerability show. Is that so? If not, what are your personal experiences? - I do let emotional vulnerability show. Obviously it depends on how much I like the other party, or how much I trust them, how much I value the connection...etc... The only time when I don't do that, is when the other party isn't the type that is comfortable with such things, or they're not emotionally collected. Or when I don't trust them, or don't want the friendship/connection to go deeper. Plus, with people whom I have my eyes on, showing some parts of my soft belly is a great way to find diamonds among the rough stones. In time of conflicts, I'll watch to see if they use it against me. Heh, the people who I keep close, have never struck low, even when they're angry. Also, more importantly - what do you need/want in a partner? (Do include your moon sign in your answer). Aries moon - 3rd house. I'll just describe my s.o. Lol. Nah, my list works even for acquaintances and friends. Don't mess with my personal life choices. They can offer comments and give advices though. Don't try fighting my battles unless I ask for help. I respect my friends and loved ones as individuals, and I'd like to receive the same treatment. For romantic partners, well I like someone who can take care of himself/can function as an independent person. Spends his money wisely, can survive on a tight budget, can cook and do household chores. Knows how to express himself- this is especially important, I value communication. Resilient, people who have been through hardships and know how to deal with them efficiently. Most important - someone who enjoys a simple life. I don't lead the expensive luxurious lifestyle, don't provide it, and won't be dragged into it. So there. IP: Logged |
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posted January 16, 2016 10:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: Venus conjunct saturn in capricorn. What are you like, romantically? - I'm pretty romantic. Well, more like very romantic, but I think that comes from venus conj neptune. Saturn makes me think of responsibilities, terms and conditions. I usually get the saturn-related stuff out of the way first, then I dish out the romance.
That's so Saturn. Dessert last. Thanks for the elaborate post. You have the conjunction in Capricorn, so the effect must be strong. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted January 16, 2016 10:23 AM
Yeah my venus in the 12th conjunct saturn in the first, so yeah it's pretty strong. Dishing out terms and conditions is more to get both parties on the same page from the get go. All cards on the table. Like with my s.o, right from the start I told him about what I didn't like and wouldn't tolerate, what I could offer, and what I expected. I asked for his requests, likes and dislikes too. It's a drag so just do it all in one go, and get to the good stuff. Rather than finding out little by little, and god forbid, by hints. Lol if they screw up, I can start singing "Don't say I didn't say I didn't warn ya" before I bail. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 16, 2016 10:27 AM
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posted January 16, 2016 10:32 AM
Aha...! Yes, that's a unique set of perspectives to share with someone. It's great that you found each other. Oh boy, you have a dehydrator?! And how do you live without TV? Youtube? IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted January 16, 2016 10:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I really cannot stand TV and wouldn't want one in the house. But that's standard for most homes.
Same. With the glorious internet, I don't need a TV. Lol we had a TV when both of us were crazily into games, fortunately it was only a short phase. We got rid of it. Generally we just like having as few furniture as possible. Futon sets - no bed, 4 folding chairs and one table, folding wardrobes... those kinds of stuff. IP: Logged |
Vegasdlt36 Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Registered: Dec 2015
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posted January 16, 2016 01:47 PM
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posted January 16, 2016 02:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vegasdlt36: Bare with me I'm new. I have a lot of problems relationship wise. Venus conjunct Neptune Moon conjunct Venus Venus square Saturn I also have Saturn square Neptune which all I keep finding is gloom. My husband has Venus opposite Neptune. I'm in a shaky 11 years marriage right now. I want a peaceful household/family life. I need a spouse that communicates, that is honest. I need peace and comfort. After a long day I don't want to come to fighting, drama, etc. I'd rather be alone than be stressed out. My moon is in Capricorn.
Vegasdlt, That's awful. Yes, home should be a place of peace, away from the chaos of day to day life. I'm sorry that you have a tough time of it. Don't know much about your situation, but have you guys tried couples therapy or something? P.S. Welcome to Lindaland, V. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1026 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted January 16, 2016 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I relate to all of this.My husband has Venus square Saturn. His Saturn is conjunct my Venus. We should have broken up many times. Only recently I was thinking it was over. But we seem connected by forces outside our control, I fall in love with him again at the most inconvenient times! It's really strange.
How crazy--my Saturn conjuncts my husband's venus. I'd bet we relate to a lot of relationship challenges. Does your hubby ever have low confidence? I get that way sometimes with the square, but then again I also have Sun square Saturn. My husband tells me all the time its the one thing he wishes he could change about me. IP: Logged |
bananaz Knowflake Posts: 1026 From: Orlando, FL USA Registered: Feb 2015
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posted January 16, 2016 02:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Elysia:
The person I know has zero shared interests with their loved one. Personally, I think a mix of similar and different interests are good. And in love, we mutually explore what the other finds fulfilling. In this case, the loved one is not even willing to explore or tolerate any of them (as a small example - won't accompany partner to a movie/to the theatre, ever. Or even watch at home together). Things like that - big and small, make the other person feel unhappy and stifled eventually. I was wondering if Venus-Saturn is the glue that holds it together.
What a stubborn person lol. I feel like my husband and I let each other be who we are. The things we're interested in, we participate together and the things we're not, we are free to do in our own time. My husband is out golfing now for example, and Im here chatting with you lovely people I think venus with saturn can do a lot though, so yeah, maybe it is the glue. It kept me in my relationship even when my common sense told me to get out. However dissimilar interests were never the problem. I can't imagine being with someone who won't even make the effort to try. IP: Logged |
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posted January 16, 2016 03:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by bananaz: My husband is out golfing now for example, and Im here chatting with you lovely people
..and we are pleased to have you here. *courtesies* quote: Originally posted by bananaz:
I can't imagine being with someone who won't even make the effort to try.
Yeah, that's what baffled me - I mean, if you give it a shot and still find you really hate it, fine - but to not even deign to try is a bit harsh. Also, isn't 'partnering up' supposed to give you a 'partner' in things? But then, I'm a tad on the clingy side, so I may be biased. IP: Logged |
LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1411 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 16, 2016 03:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Vegasdlt36: Bare with me I'm new. I have a lot of problems relationship wise. Venus conjunct Neptune Moon conjunct Venus Venus square Saturn I also have Saturn square Neptune which all I keep finding is gloom. My husband has Venus opposite Neptune. I'm in a shaky 11 years marriage right now. I want a peaceful household/family life. I need a spouse that communicates, that is honest. I need peace and comfort. After a long day I don't want to come to fighting, drama, etc. I'd rather be alone than be stressed out. My moon is in Capricorn.
What's your husbands moon sign? IP: Logged |
Vegasdlt36 Knowflake Posts: 113 From: Registered: Dec 2015
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posted January 16, 2016 03:56 PM
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posted January 16, 2016 03:59 PM
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posted January 16, 2016 05:44 PM
This is very interesting post. I have the sextile between Venus Sag and Libra Saturn and I don't really feel it all that much. I think though, that if I did have the patience and tenacity to stick out a long term relationship, it would be very rewarding and satisfying but I don't and can't. I'm currently in a slow dance with someone I have the conjunction and square in synastry with. High fives to those who handle it so well. It's tough. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 21731 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 16, 2016 09:13 PM
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