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margym0o
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posted January 21, 2016 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly how it sounds...

What aspects cause someone to come across as a "jerk"? Even if they don't intentionally mean to come across that way, but their choice of words, attitude or tone of voice makes people think they are (or it could be intentional).

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Cappi112
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posted January 21, 2016 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars hard aspects

Afflicted moon (trouble handling emotions)

Neptune squares to personal planets (lies, deception)

Uranus squares to personal planets (need to be free, could be erratic or leave people hanging suddenly)

Ummmm saturn squares to personal planets can make someone seem harsh, cold, distant - but usually it's for a deeper purpose, rather than because he/she is a bad person. Usually more a sign of "toughness".

These are the first that come to mind for me, anyway.

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posted January 21, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard aspects to Jupiter

Jupiter/Uranus in hard aspect--likes to shock.

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posted January 21, 2016 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic_Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard aspects to Nessus lol

Mars/Pluto/uranus aspects, my Dad had this in a conjunction and was a ****

I think the asteroids Ixion and Orcus are also a bit dark headed

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hannaramaa
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posted January 21, 2016 02:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds more synastry related... but for fun I'd say mutual reception between Mars and Mercury like I have. Tones come out very wrong and often when I'm trying to actually be lighthearted and playful. Another is Moon Venus square or opposition..

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midnightcatqueen
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posted January 21, 2016 08:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a jerk...
Cappy Moon> misanthropic

Libra Sun with Mercury/Mars conjunction 1 degree from Scorpio >lighting rod of precision brutality through words/action/presence

Taurus Rising >stubbornly stoic aka don't mess with the bull, or you'll get the horns

Venus Jupiter conjunction in Virgo >critical

In other words.. the front row is not for the fragile and faint of heart.


EDIT: I made some girl at work cry because i was singing David Bowie songs on the day he died and ignored her questions about whether i liked Guns&Roses... she was drunk and acting really stupid with me so I told her off and she cried to a friend of mine.

Another instance was I was hanging out with my friend whom was visiting from Florida who I hadn't seen in several months since i last visited her ...some guy got real slick with me and tried flirting with us and i wasn't having it. He began saying i was talking badly about him when i actually wasn't but did not indulge his macho antics and verbally assaulted him until he walked away... we were with her BF who had just played a show and his guitarist brought over these two guys to sit with us and that one guy who tried it was just asking for it basically...
So again... 'don't mess with the bull, or you'll get the horns' never fit me better.
This all happened within the same week. SIGH. I'm a jerk...but only when I'm jerked around.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 22, 2016 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The biggest ass*ole I have met were:

Leo sun
Moon Pisces

And

Aries sun
Moon Virgo

They weren't even that big of ******** , we just wanted different things and they went about it wrong.

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Faith
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posted January 22, 2016 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit

Tried to make light of how we're all prone to something, but in different ways....

But then all these bad memories of people kept coming up, and why be negative.

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posted January 22, 2016 09:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
The biggest ass*ole I have met were:

Leo sun
Moon Pisces

And

Aries sun
Moon Virgo

They weren't even that big of ******** , we just wanted different things and they went about it wrong.


yeah sometimes those sun and moon sign quincunx aspects are confusing to the people who have them and for those that have to deal
with those persons, not always but it is an aspect that may denote a lack of clarity.

as for the whole idea I think anyone can learn to be a jerk with the right teachers,
or at least I think it may be easier for some to learn to be a jerk than for others
who must learn not to be one.SADLY
Some people go around being a jerk for a long time before they even figure out that they are one, but can still unlearn that behavior in time. It just sucks when we encounter others on the slow learning curve.

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Faith
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posted January 22, 2016 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by midnightcatqueen:
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I don't know what your signature means, but I love it.

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posted January 22, 2016 09:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
I don't know what your signature means, but I love it.

Aw hah thanks, it's a R.E.M. song lyric from "man on the moon"
I think of astrology as an agit for those whom i convert to it and then they start to believe that there's more to astrology than just those awful newspaper horoscopes.

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posted January 22, 2016 10:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like Faith on the signature, I was always like wtf,
Now that you have explained it,

YAY

More POWER 2U , been doing that for years myself I guess , damn trash in the newspaper is not real astrology and so many think of that trash as soon as they hear the word astrology.

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midnightcatqueen
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posted January 22, 2016 10:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow! Didn't know I was confusing people..
I think it's just the wording of it...
But thanks! Screw that newspaper magazine garbage! I seem to always get at least 80% of people i chat with and friends to give in to the 'occult' of astrology..I'm not always a jerk
Also to further explain...whenever i post something specifically astrology related here... it's like " LOOK! This makes sense you skeptical non believer human ... " of course only to those who are not apart of LL.

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hmm
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posted January 23, 2016 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are many kinds of jerks. There are water jerks who a so smooth they abuse their effect.

There are fire jerks who are oblivious, loud, inconsiderate

Etc.

Usually if you have bad synastry with someone you'll find them a jerk.
Maybe bad aspects to Mars in particular. But any plant really

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Elysia
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posted January 23, 2016 04:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, anyone can be a jerk. Environmental conditioning matters. But some already have a latent inner struggle that creates the tendency to be a 'jerk'. Sun/Moon quincuxes and squares for the most part - hard to handle for the native. Somehow end up exhibiting the 'worst of both worlds', if they can't reconcile the energies.

Biggest jerk I know - Aries sun/Cap moon. Selfish, cold, misanthropic, alarmingly misogynistic and too high an opinion of himself. The phrase 'objectifying women' was invented for him. Perhaps other factors in his chart contribute to that, will have to see.

In general, unevolved types of Aries sun/Earth moon and Leo sun/Water moon combos can be jerks.

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posted January 23, 2016 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sounds more synastry related... but for fun I'd say mutual reception between Mars and Mercury like I have. Tones come out very wrong and often when I'm trying to actually be lighthearted and playful. Another is Moon Venus square or opposition..


I have Mercury sextile Mars and I feel it's not very benefic either. I don't think I come accross as jerk, but I can be very harsh if I'm discussing my convictions. I will get all verbal warrior on people...

But Mercury square the nodes...that's a pain. I get misunderstood all the time.

Mercury-Uranus comes accross as weirdo too, but maybe not a jerk.

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Originally posted by Soltze:
I have Mercury sextile Mars and I feel it's not very benefic either. I don't think I come accross as jerk, but I can be very harsh if I'm discussing my convictions. I will get all verbal warrior on people...

Even with a sextile, which is relatively gentle, you get that edge to your Merc? You really got me thinking.

I have the conjunction (in Scorpio). I guess I'm a lady jerk. Now that I think about it, I can be very cutting, verbally. Merc being in Scorp & in the 8th, I can see the 'soft underbelly', the vulnerable parts in people. When in a rage, I try not to attack those - coz there are some 'ethics' to battle. But yeah, sometimes I've inadvertently said things that people didn't know about themselves and - oh the destruction that followed! Some truths are too harsh to be spoken. So, I clamp down and don't say anything when I'm angry. I think it, I write it. Roll it up in a ball and toss it in the bin.

**Edit: Although, the kind of jerk the OP was talking about was one that acts without consideration for others feelings. I don't Merc-Mars does that - it's more of a rage issue.

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posted January 23, 2016 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True it's a rage issue lol. I regret being like that latter.

My Mercury is Gemini so he's peaceful. Maybe I get really p***** off because I have Moon and Mars in mutual reception and....on their fall.

Mars in Cancer and Moon in Scorpio make for a seething vulcano of evil hahaha

Insensitive jerk I would say moon squares! Quincunxes to it as well.

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Faith
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posted January 23, 2016 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by midnightcatqueen:
Aw hah thanks, it's a R.E.M. song lyric from "man on the moon"
I think of astrology as an agit for those whom i convert to it and then they start to believe that there's more to astrology than just those awful newspaper horoscopes.

I thought it sounded familiar! I like that song, it mentions Elvis.

Though I had to look up "agit":
1.
(in prescriptions) shake, stir.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agit-

Thanks for explaining, I like your approach!

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posted January 23, 2016 07:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars in cap

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posted January 24, 2016 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any person squaring your sun. (Of course that's more of a synastry thing)

I would also say all the signs have the potential to be jerks if they are unevolved.

I honestly don't think any aspect really triggers this if someone works to balance their energy but if any did I would say Nessus (more abuse though, there's actually a lot of asteroids for jerks though) and harsh Pluto/Mars aspects but like I said anything can be neutralized and nothing is set in stone.

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posted January 24, 2016 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mergoatsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sarahhm:
mars in cap

What's your reasoning behind this?

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posted January 24, 2016 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I come off as a jerk sometimes. I really do care about people, though.

I blame my air moon, the Moon/Mercury and Mars/Mercury squares in my chart.

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posted January 24, 2016 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in hard aspect to Uranus.

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posted January 25, 2016 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wholly understand the Mercury/Mars rage issue. 3H Mercury Scorpio opposite Mars in Taurus. Lucky for me, Mercury is also trined by the Moon and Saturn. If it weren't for those little gifts from the Multiverse, I would probably be in prison.

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