posted January 27, 2016 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
@ AG

Interesting, I have 3H Pluto and loved 4-12.

Hated K-3, though. I was too smart for everyone, and there was an evil plot to dumb me down, I could smell it. (Aqua Mercury )

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I just pictured a chubby little toddler with an angry frown!!!

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posted January 27, 2016 06:48 AM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
School is the ******* devil and is the sole reason why humans are so naive, lost, unconscious, prententious and mean.. They teach.you nothing but lies and how to love, value and achieve material objects which all disttact us from why we were really.brought into this world.. Everyone (especially our gen) are clueless and boring... I will do everything in my.power to spread real truth as long as im alive because most of us our loat (i feel.bad for women because they are unconscious beings) you are programmed to think with your moon and not sun and this is because of what eve.did in the garden of eden

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Stop acting like being all negative is the pinnacle of enlightenment. It's not. If school is so ****** , please come up with a better system and then we'll talk.

Not just about school though, this attitude sucks whichever way you apply it. Yes, the world is far from perfect, and yes, we have a long way to go before we're a safe and happy society. But is that going to happen with people picking things apart verbally? Being an armchair philosopher (and you're an especially bad one at that) is real easy. What takes guts is to take real steps towards achieving what you believe in.

posted January 27, 2016 08:05 AM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
I will do everything in my.power to spread real truth as long as im alive because most of us our loat (i feel.bad for women because they are unconscious beings) you are programmed to think with your moon and not sun and this is because of what eve.did in the garden of eden

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If you truly seek to enlighten others, then you're doing it wrong, and sabotaging yourself by so much predictable obnoxiousness. You should spend more time on seeking personal enlightenment instead until you can become a better communicator (which requires more than making unsupported statements seasoned heavily with contempt for others, and btw, your calling others pretentious was, at best, the pot calling the kettle black).

posted January 27, 2016 08:13 AM            

Interesting enough, I realized that the reason I didn't care for school is because it was too slow for me, and that it prevented me from learning at my own pace.

*Checks question again*

posted January 27, 2016 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Sorry about your cold. I have a cold that doesn't seem to be sure if it actually wants to invade me or not. It's kind of like an itch in my nose, making threats.. I don't know what it's gonna do <<< Merc is messing with me too.

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Heheheheh "making threats" Same here. Well it comes and goes a few hours at a time. Sometimes my Echinacea tea and Airborn win, sometimes the cold wins.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Oh! Lol. What you said about college? Same for me. And I did drop out after the first semester. I just wasn't ready.

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I should have; it's the biggest regret of my life that I didn't. But the problem was hard to understand: I had worked all my life to get into a good school, and I achieved that..so how could I just hop into this new identity (label) of "dropout"?

How does a person even do such a thing? I was confused and had no guidance.

And I think my father would have been crushed.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
My brother went straight into an ivy league school and continued to study for the next 12-14 years. I'll have to look at their charts.

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posted January 27, 2016 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Lol that's pretty much where my organization stops...I've been told by 6H people that I worked with that I "needed to find a system to stay organized". Lol. This is true with my mother, too...she has 6H sun and she always has a place for everything. I think Jupiter in my 6th makes me a tad bit lazy when it comes to organization and cleaning.

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I think I'm similar because my 6H sun squares Jupiter.

posted January 27, 2016 09:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
I just pictured a chubby little toddler with an angry frown!!!

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My goodness! Your 12H moon!

I did look pretty much exactly like that as a toddler! I had the blond hair and frown, but not the pigtails, I was too serious for pigtails.

posted January 27, 2016 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
School is the ******* devil and is the sole reason why humans are so naive, lost, unconscious, prententious and mean.. They teach.you nothing but lies and how to love, value and achieve material objects which all disttact us from why we were really.brought into this world.. Everyone (especially our gen) are clueless and boring... I will do everything in my.power to spread real truth as long as im alive because most of us our loat (i feel.bad for women because they are unconscious beings) you are programmed to think with your moon and not sun and this is because of what eve.did in the garden of eden

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Paul, when I felt the way that you feel, I would listen to a lot of political punk like the Dead Kennedys and Subhumans. It helped me to know that I wasn't the only person who thought the things I thought (and still believe, to a large degree).

I'm not offering a huge solution here, just sharing some music that might be therapeutic, depending on how you feel about '80s punk.

Take it or leave it, but I understand how you feel, in a very broad sense. Our lives are obviously different, but from one Pisces to another...

posted January 27, 2016 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Paul, when I felt the way that you feel, I would listen to a lot of political punk like the Dead Kennedys and Subhumans. It helped me to know that I wasn't the only person who thought the things I thought (and still believe, to a large degree).

I'm not offering a huge solution here, just sharing some music that might be therapeutic, depending on how you feel about '80s punk.

Take it or leave it, but I understand how you feel, in a very broad sense. Our lives are obviously different, but from one Pisces to another...

Here. You really do have to listen to the lyrics, though.
From the Cradle to the Grave, by Subhumans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5FMfTqf5k

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posted January 27, 2016 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Paul, when I felt the way that you feel, I would listen to a lot of political punk like the Dead Kennedys and Subhumans. It helped me to know that I wasn't the only person who thought the things I thought (and still believe, to a large degree).

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We've all tried to say things along similar lines to him many times. The issue is not with what he feels as much as the way he goes about it. "I feel these things therefore I am deep and you idiots don't know s**t." Ironically, the things he's talking about, fancying that they're profound expositions, are actually barely scratching the surface. It's partly the existential angst that everyone goes through, combined with self-righteous condescension.

Nope, no way. He has no right to talk to us like that. What does he know of our thoughts? What does he know of what we know or think or feel of the world? What gives him the bloody right to assume random BS about our thought processes? By all means, feel what you want to feel, say what you want to say. But as Churchill said, 'Your freedom ends where my nose begins'. Back off, dude. No-one insulted him, why does he feel the need to be so abrasive?

IMO, what he's saying is not deep or soulful, it's just pompousness run amuck. I'm sorry to say this, and I wouldn't have 'gone there' if he wouldn't have constantly needled us with unsolicited, rude remarks.

posted January 27, 2016 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
My goodness! Your 12H moon!

I did look pretty much exactly like that as a toddler! I had the blond hair and frown, but not the pigtails, I was too serious for pigtails.

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Awww, you are as I imagined!! Maybe someday we'll get to see your actual baby pictures. I wanted to create a thread asking people to post their baby pictures you know, but I realized I've no right to create it if I can't oblige in kind.

Btw, you're saying if I have a Cappy daughter, I'll have a tough time getting her into pigtails? Dayum.

posted January 27, 2016 11:43 AM            

I was very impatient with the details though-Moon in 3rd. And I seemed to retain things that were poetic and soulful (languages specifically or things that dealt with human nature)

I was a moody learner and so it was mostly up/down. Hardly ever stable. And I used to get angry when I got low marks(Moon/Mars square)

My brain responded to things that I could manipulate, turn on their head and poke from all angles. Not things that were linear and had a certain and inevitable answer.

So I was never great with Maths or the more practical/rigid subjects like Science because they required a lot more rule application. And I found that they lacked imagination.

After high school,I still responded to knowledge in a more emotive way in Varsity.

But I was more interested in expanding my knowledge in areas connected to abstract theory and concepts(9th)

With my Mercury in 9th, I couldn't find much in mainstream to whet my appetite there.

But I remember reading insatiably in the school Library to quell my curiosity about subjects and questions I've pondered that related to 9th house matters

I managed to graduate with a boring Business Administration Degree.

posted January 27, 2016 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
We've all tried to say things along similar lines to him many times. The issue is not with what he feels as much as the way he goes about it. "I feel these things therefore I am deep and you idiots don't know s**t." Ironically, the things he's talking about, fancying that they're profound expositions, are actually barely scratching the surface. It's partly the existential angst that everyone goes through, combined with self-righteous condescension.

Nope, no way. He has no right to talk to us like that. What does he know of our thoughts? What does he know of what we know or think or feel of the world? What gives him the bloody right to assume random BS about our thought processes? By all means, feel what you want to feel, say what you want to say. But as Churchill said, 'Your freedom ends where my nose begins'. Back off, dude. No-one insulted him, why does he feel the need to be so abrasive?

IMO, what he's saying is [b]not deep or soulful, it's just pompousness run amuck. I'm sorry to say this, and I wouldn't have 'gone there' if he wouldn't have constantly needled us with unsolicited, rude remarks.

P.S. Apologies for getting carried away, but this is what I feel. [/B]

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I understand what you're saying, but for some reason I'm not bothered by his style of communicating the ideas he's exploring. I don't take it personally (mostly because he's never directed any nasty comments at me, I've only seen him say things in a way that is generalizing).

I'm not bothered when he says "you people", or whatever. I understand the process he's going through, and I'm fine with it.

Now, if he were to insult me on a personal level, I might take it personally. Or I might not.

I have no words of real wisdom to impart to Paul, but I don't mind his venting.

That's odd for me, because I'm usually very thin-skinned, and tend to take nearly everything personally.

posted January 27, 2016 04:08 PM              

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Originally posted by Elysia:
We've all tried to say things along similar lines to him many times. The issue is not with what he feels as much as the way he goes about it. "I feel these things therefore I am deep and you idiots don't know s**t." Ironically, the things he's talking about, fancying that they're profound expositions, are actually barely scratching the surface. It's partly the existential angst that everyone goes through, combined with self-righteous condescension.

Nope, no way. He has no right to talk to us like that. What does he know of our thoughts? What does he know of what we know or think or feel of the world? What gives him the bloody right to assume random BS about our thought processes? By all means, feel what you want to feel, say what you want to say. But as Churchill said, 'Your freedom ends where my nose begins'. Back off, dude. No-one insulted him, why does he feel the need to be so abrasive?

IMO, what he's saying is [b]not deep or soulful, it's just pompousness run amuck. I'm sorry to say this, and I wouldn't have 'gone there' if he wouldn't have constantly needled us with unsolicited, rude remarks.

P.S. Apologies for getting carried away, but this is what I feel. [/B]

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posted January 27, 2016 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
I understand what you're saying, but for some reason I'm not bothered by his style of communicating the ideas he's exploring. I don't take it personally (mostly because he's never directed any nasty comments at me, I've only seen him say things in a way that is generalizing).

I'm not bothered when he says "you people", or whatever. I understand the process he's going through, and I'm fine with it.

Now, if he were to insult me on a personal level, I might take it personally. Or I might not.

I have no words of real wisdom to impart to Paul, but I don't mind his venting.

That's odd for me, because I'm usually very thin-skinned, and tend to take nearly everything personally.

I'm not really worried about it, either way.

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Hehe.. And I'm usually not.. *ahem* one of those days, I guess.

But I stand by my impression of his motive/intention - what he says does feel like it's aimed at people, with that superiority-complex, thinking he knows everything under the sun. Irritates the hell out of me. And he's (unknowingly) adding to the hostility and negativity that he so laments about in this world. Ugh, anyway.

PuttingOutOfMindNOW.

posted January 27, 2016 04:20 PM            

I was a lot like him when I was younger, honestly. I know that I felt a terribly condescending attitude towards many people, and I struggled with the same feeling of disgust for society, and people in general.

I still do, to some degree, and obviously there's a fine line between allowing ourselves to get so caught up in the depressing, disheartening aspects of our cultures, maintaining a healthy awareness of human nature, and being somewhat okay with everything while also not turning into Mary Poppins.

I haven't mastered it, but I do sort of "get" the process, to some degree. I think.

posted January 27, 2016 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Lol. I understand.

I was a lot like him when I was younger, honestly. I know that I felt a terribly condescending attitude to many people, and I struggled with the same feeling of disgust for society, and people in general.

I still do, to some degree, and obviously there's a fine line between allowing ourselves to get so caught up in the depressing, disheartening aspects of our cultures, maintaining a healthy awareness of human nature, and being somewhat okay with everything while also not turning into Mary Poppins.

I haven't mastered it, but I do sort of "get" the process, to some degree. I think.

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Haha.! I'm not okay with the way things are either. I feel just as badly, if not worse. But being a little more understanding/forgiving of human flaws wouldn't hurt. All I meant was, he shouldn't make snap judgements like that. If possible, refrain from judging at all. It's not like we are perfect, after all. Would he bear the same scrutiny that he so liberally applies to others?

Any number of a million factors can cause a person to go 'bad', a system to go corrupt or a societal structure to fail. The fault lies not with humanity itself, but with humanity's actions. And yes, there is unbearable pain in the world. I've seen my share of really twisted people. But for all that, there is also heart-stopping beauty possible.

There can be unending philosophical discussions on this, but if you strip it all down to its core - Life is beautiful, I believe. Every moment we get to be alive and well is magical and full of potential. If we can be hyper-aware of the pain, we should be hyper-aware of the light too. It's the only thing that got me out of the cesspool of fatalistic thoughts and actions. The lesson was very simple. Life is beautiful. Don't be ungrateful.

Like you, I too am not fully 'there' yet. But I do try to remind myself of the above every time I slip back into that 'zone'.

posted January 27, 2016 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
(i feel.bad for women because they are unconscious beings) you are programmed to think with your moon and not sun and this is because of what eve.did in the garden of eden

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