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Topic: Simple magic & astrology
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 01:32 PM
Typically whenever I feel a dramatic shift in energy, if I create a chart for that moment, the reason for the shift is obvious. So I've wondered if I should be planning things according to the daily transits. Somehow I've felt like that would be crafty, or even witchcrafty. I don't want to do things just because I know transiting Jupiter will be on the transiting ASC at that moment, or whatever. I like for things to unfold more according to natural impulse than calculation. But sometimes, I think -- Why not? It would be an interesting experiment, at the very least. Maybe I would get better results if I did things according to timing. For instance...I need to make a phone call that may be difficult for me (I'm phone shy.) A little while ago, I felt a shift, and wanted to make the call. Usually I don't make charts for every little thing, but I was in the mood to see what this was about. As it turns out: the transiting moon was on the transiting MC, conjunct my natal Mercury within one degree. If I had known that was coming, and it would affect me like that, I would have planned to make use of the feeling, but I was in the middle of other things, and the opportunity passed. (By the way, I'm not THAT phone shy, the call will be made, just not as comfortably, perhaps.) This thread is to ask: 1) Do you ever plan to do certain things at certain times, because you know the planetary energies will be conducive to success, or supportive of your intentions, at that time? 2) Do you have any interesting stories to tell about successes you've had, with that technique? Or, do you have a handy method to recommend to others, about how to pinpoint the best times to do certain things? 3) Do you think this sounds too contrived and/or demonic, and you want to complain that I made this thread? Answers, if you please. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9675 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 07, 2016 01:50 PM
Hi Faith. (I'll reply to all the questions in one block...) I don't plan according to transits, no. But I regularly see things play out according to them, in hindsight (like you?). I've thought about this before. "Planning", "calculating"... Something seems kind of "off" about it. Like taking away the natural, organic, "fateful" side of life. Like I am playing God..? I have a problem with that; although it's definitely an interesting/intriguing prospect and might actually give good results. What I have noticed, is that regardless of transits, I have little choice in some matters, or so it seems. Sometimes I want to do X at a given moment, but something gets in the way and I can't, even if the transits suggested a positive outcome, for example. There was a time when I wanted to "strategically choose" a first meeting chart, according to the hour of the meeting, to influence its course... And that didn't work, because influences outside of my control changed the hour/chart. There was an unaspected Sun, which eventually turned out to be potent - the relationship lacked direction and disintegrated pretty quickly. All this to say... While you can try to influence, control, plan and choose certain things, there seems to be a "higher power" in the universe that won't just let you get away with it every time. Like some things are just "meant" to happen without your own accord... But those are my thoughts for now. Prone to change. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 02:01 PM
Thanks so much, Doux! Excellent reply quote: While you can try to influence, control, plan and choose certain things, there seems to be a "higher power" in the universe that won't just let you get away with it every time. Like some things are just "meant" to happen without your own accord...
Yes and I LOVE that, I love yielding to a Higher Purpose...stranger, better things than I would ever think possible could come from any given moment. And so, I like anticipating surprises. Plus, tracking how the transit chart will move throughout the day just seems arduous, or for smarter people than me, at this point. All the same, a little "magic" now and then? Maybe I should tinker with it. Just to see what it is. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1511 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 02:05 PM
Hi Faith This topic is easy enough for me. And my answer is pretty simple. I have noticed that as my focus shifts from a more spiritual focus on being to a more material focus on creating , I find myself reaching for my hand tools. Instead of observe and reflect, I want to manipulate and mold, and I use transits as one of my sculpting tools. <<< eta: I had to Gem Venus it up a little more. Kind of like planting with the phases of the moon. ------------------ Correction: Cancer Asc Aries Moon Taurus Mars Gemini Venus Aquarius (?) SN oh and Love Yourz IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 02:10 PM
v2t I love how you phrased all that... Gemini VENUS , so articulate. You witchy people like to keep your cloaks about you, I know, but can you spare a few tips for this clumsy mortal at your feet? (I mean me. ) Anything you've learned, any rules of thumb you want to share? ETA: Yes those typos I just corrected were indeed bad enough to make you worry if I have circulation issues, not enough air going to my brain. I think it's Mercury Rx in my SR chart? Or just the circulation thing...or...something else. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1511 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 02:14 PM
My big tip is it's still all spirit and energy. Don't become attached to expectation and outcome EVER. The way you do that is understand that what you are really working with is the power of..wait for it.. Faith! Ha! Who's the witch?! Lol!! IP: Logged |
carm76 Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Sirius Registered: Aug 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 02:16 PM
1) Do you ever plan to do certain things at certain times, because you know the planetary energies will be conducive to success, or supportive of your intentions, at that time?Yes, Abundance. If you natality or with a transit have a opportunity to have success, why not use it. Knowledge alone doesn't build you a house. 2) Do you have any interesting stories to tell about successes you've had, with that technique? Or, do you have a handy method to recommend to others, about how to pinpoint the best times to do certain things? Abundance isn't about just winning money, the most I've won is $100. It's about having "it" when you need it and knowings it coming. A recent example ... my kids (and Husband!) wanted a video game system. We googled the cost of new ones and both agree that we didn't want to pay that much (very important: it's not that we said or thought, we couldn't afford to pay for new because that's reinforcing lack) so we went to the used for sale website a and at first found nothing in our willing to pay price range. The next morning, we looked again and there was a guy selling 2 different systems (with games) for the price we were willing to pay for one!!! We haven't sold the 2nd system yet but we will so that's $$$ and the money we saved is $$$ and that's the universe being abundant. Astrology is a tool and like all the others in your tool box, it should be used equally. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1511 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 02:21 PM
I don't have any experiences yet. I've only just started thinking this way.IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 02:23 PM
edit -Have to leave, be back later IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1511 From: the baseball hall of fame Registered: Nov 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 02:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Well that's just perfect!But I meant, do you use a particular software to decide when to "plant"? And THEN water it with faith?
Oh. Damn. Well, no. I'd never considered software.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1912 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted February 07, 2016 02:43 PM
Nope! I'll pay attention to Mercury Rx, but not take it TOO seriously. Usually work sucks during that time. I will use a little more cuation and research before making certain purchases, but that's about it. I've bought a phone and a car during Mercury Rx and they've been trouble free! Mostly, I try to use the strengths of my chart, and look out for my weaknesses. I use what I've been given to try to make it work for me. With my Virgo, I analyze, research, and plan before I make a move. One time I bought a car without ever seeing one in person. I researched the crap out of it. Then I said, "This is the color that I want, these options. Get one here." It turned out that I loved that car! It wasn't exactly reliable but realibility wasn't something that I was very concerned about at the time. So it all worked out. With my Virgo 12th, do my research on things and/or listen to my gut. The impulsive parts of my chart I really need to keep in check. I can be REALLY impulsive and it's usually trouble. So that's my strategy. I might look to transits to confirm, but never to plan. (I entered a relationship during Venus Rx and I'm still in it! 2 1/2 years later and going strong) IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 04:20 PM
^ That's been my strategy as well. Trusting my gut over any calculations I'd make...because the gut takes in all kinds of information from what's out there...while a calculation narrows things down to a small mental picture. Still...I'm curious. How would my life change if I decided to do things on the new moon, or when the tr ASC will be conjunct my sun, or whatever? I think I've gotten to a place in life where I enjoy not being too invested in desired outcomes, and that's why I don't get into this stuff. Still, here and there, I desire certain outcomes, so I should practice with astrology, making dreams come true. Something like that! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 04:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: Oh. Damn. Well, no. I'd never considered software.
Argh, I was typing that to you, got interrupted and didn't see that you said, "I don't have any experiences yet" before I posted my comment (or I wouldn't have asked), then I got interrupted again so I couldn't explain. Something in the sky making pretzels of my communication!! Shoulda seen it coming! K, once you manifest magic using astrology, please report back to this thread and tell the story! I'll do the same. If or when I get around to it! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 07, 2016 04:28 PM
@carmLove your answers! quote: The next morning, we looked again and there was a guy selling 2 different systems (with games) for the price we were willing to pay for one!!!
Was there a corresponding shift in something astrological? Did the transiting moon land on your 2H Jupiter or something? If you can remember
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carm76 Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Sirius Registered: Aug 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 05:57 PM
Hi Faith,I doubled checked with my husband and it was last Sunday afternoon (2-3pm) when looked. I never checked the astrology, checking now I see the transit moon was at 28'07 of 5H Libra opposite my natal Moon and Chiron in the 11H. AC Rising ... I have Jupiter in 11H Taurus making a Trine to Venus in 7H Cap. Transiting Jupiter in Virgo is giving me a Grand Earth Trine. Sun Sign ... Capricorn is my 2H Taurus is my 6H Virgo is my 10H I use this knowledge as a tool to give me confidence, knowingness and a positive attitude that the things I want and need are going to come into my life. Along with other tools like letting go physically and emotionally what no long serves. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 1762 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 06:35 PM
This is a good thread. Very interesting.If I'm given two options, time-wise, for a meeting/consultation, etc. I'll sometimes cast a chart and choose the one I like best for the purposes. I kind of read electional charts as I would horary... I'm far from expert in either but I like to make sure that neither the ruler of the 1st or 7th is heavily afflicted... and that my general purposes will be well served. Of course we can't time everything perfectly but the difference an hour makes is not negligible. I once cast a chart for a consultation date/time and was 80% sure my client wouldn't show up, as the ruler of the 1st house--the Moon--was pretty heavily afflicted... can't recall exactly, but something to do with Neptune as well as being in hard aspect to the 7th ruler, Saturn (which represented me)... at least I think that's the way I was reading it, given it was an electional chart for a consultation and she was the querant.. had it been a horary question of course I would've been 1st house roller.... aaanywho... I was so sure she wouldn't show that I was in my pyjamas. She contacted me half an hour after our appointment was set to begin to say that she has forgotten/was in for the night/etc. First big snowfall around here this year... i understood. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2654 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 07, 2016 07:32 PM
For me, venus transits making nice aspects to my planets -> good time for beauty care, relationships, financial decisions, meeting new business partners...etc... Venus returns are lovely, my works was first noticed by art dealers during a venus return.Usually flowing aspects from tr venus make me feel good, I can detect a shift in my moods. I feel more willing to entertain and humor and tolerate. So it's especially good for dealing or connecting with other people. Some people are difficult and I'm short-fused by nature, so I try to arrange first meetings during these nice transits. I pay attention to transits making aspects to my moon too, nothing too rough on my moon, tr mars making harsh aspects to moon is a no-no. They tend to make me overly confident and overly excited though. So I gotta be careful when making decisions. Once I got a set of green nails, with fancy little sparkly studs and yellow drawings. Idk, it seemed like a good idea at the time. The effect was quite garish and the memory of it shall forever haunt me in my sleep. I tried to think that it was a depiction of sunny blooms on a field of green grass, and the little studs were dew drops. Jupiter transits ime can bring a fair bit of good fortune too. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 1762 From: red river valley Registered: Mar 2014
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posted February 07, 2016 08:09 PM
Started my current love affair under the auspices of a Venus return. Can vouch IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 7796 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2016 09:54 PM
I have books that talk about the right times to try certain things, astrology-wise, but I've never tried.I can usually tell when Venus is aspecting a personal planet, or Saturn or Mars is playing nicely with something in my chart. Or when the moon shifts to a different sign. I don't know what it is today, but my mood has been off again most of the weekend, after having a mostly good week. Oh, it must have been in Capricorn. No wonder!!! That Moon usually has me feeling depressed, and scared. I woke up feeling that way in the early hours of the morning, and had Tim Burton-like nightmares. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23999 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 08, 2016 09:30 AM
Hmm, no, I don´t do that. Sometimes I take a peek before (usually of an already scheduled event), but mostly I like being amazed by the charts the universe come up with!And I believe I can`t cheat anyway, as the universe will have its way, either by the event taking place at another day or hour even, or me having failed to see something vital in advance, but that which I missed to see will prove important later on. So no, I don`t plan with astrology. I don`t think it works, unless it was part of the "plan" anyway. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 08, 2016 11:08 AM
^ I remember a few months ago, I had a bad transit, something like Mars square my Venus (?) and I actually read about it that day...normally I do not read about my transits. It predicted that I was going to suffer for this one (well in so many words, it said, brace yourself!) Lo and behold, that evening, my husband got upset with me over nothing and stormed out. I pulled up a chart for that moment and the dreaded transit was EXACT. So I'm sitting there just laughing and waiting for him to come back...he did, a few moments later, and said, "I'm so sorry, I don't even know what got into me..." But I was practically clapping, I wanted to say, "It worked!!! The Universe's booby trap on me actually worked!! Just like they said!" Astrology makes me a serious weirdo.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 08, 2016 11:11 AM
Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm heading out and will get back to this later. Just wanted to say, I just got a new email address and joined a yahoo group that WILL affect my destiny. I pulled up a chart for when everything was all set....turns out the new moon is at the top of the chart, in the 10th house, squaring Mars on the DSC, which happens to be conjunct my NN. ASC conjunct my SN exact. Recipe, or "spell," for disaster?? I don't know. We'll see.... ETA: I posted this at 11:11 IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23999 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 08, 2016 04:13 PM
Wow! That is amazing. You should see the chart fro when I made my first post at LL! If I had seen thta in advance, lol Funny enough it was just a few months after I first layed eyes on Mr Sag Anyway, what yahoo group did you join, if you are okay with sharing? And new email address? What about the one I have?
Also I just realized today was my lunar Return and that on a New Moon! lol Just with 2 degree orb. So the influence should hold for the next month. Well I`ve had a lazy but productive day, very very relaxed, very windy and rainy outside the window (inside would be worrisome. lol).
Hmm, we`ll see what the lunar return and New Moon brings to me. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 15728 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 08, 2016 05:35 PM
@Ceri I was thinking of you when I saw the new moon is at...18 Aqua? LOL about it raining inside.Same email address, I needed a new one for yahoo so I could get my group mail sent to gmail (they wouldn't let me change my outdated email addresses from years ago.) And the group is just a local meet-up group, but I tend to get really involved in whatever group I join, so I expect it will branch off into numerous activities, commitments, etc. I'd love to see the chart for when you joined here! I don't know when I joined...I think my first post was in Know Two Are Alike, I'll have to scare it up. (I know what I said...that everyone was going to know me eventually, because I talk A LOT ) @muddy THOSE NAILS @carm Not sure why I felt like you had 2H Jupiter...Taurus Jupiter is similar! I wouldn't know how to spot your stroke of luck with the details you gave...I don't know what makes luck happen, I just made a wild guess. @yungang I love your story! I saw your thread in IA; so your approach there is horary (?) Maybe one day I'll get into horary. @teasel I thought of starting a nightmares thread a few days ago because I suspected I wasn't the only one having a bad night when the Cap moon was conjunct tr Venus and Pluto. That's very cool that you can sense the moon shifting. Sometimes I can, usually I cannot. I want to train myself to recognize energy, in transit and in people...gotta sharpen my awareness...but I'm just too lazy to put in the time, watching videos of celebrities, or whatever it would take.
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 23999 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 08, 2016 05:53 PM
Faith, my first post here was on 7th august 2006, and well, I think it probably was the "Karmic irony" one
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See how the NN is exactly on my Draco ASC? (of course we are NOT going to talk about the Elephant in the room, on the ASC or the one on Sun )
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