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XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 19, 2016 10:50 PM
What aspects in a natal chart would you think will make a person a homosexual? I think an Uranus and Venus aspect might.IP: Logged |
Pisces Plutonian Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Jan 2016
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posted February 19, 2016 11:01 PM
I don't think there is anything that will DEFINITELY make you a homosexual in Astrology because it can manifest in different ways, but I am homosexual and these are the aspects and placements in my chart I've heard people say can indicate homosexuality.Uranus in the 5th in Aquarius Neptune in the 5th in Aquarius Mercury conjunct Uranus and Neptune in the 5th Aquarius Venus sextile Uranus. Venus trine Pluto.
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Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Uranus before I ran into Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 19, 2016 11:14 PM
This has been discussed SO many times lol. Not that bringing it up is an issue. Personally, I'm also homosexual, and am an Aquarius. I'll give you some aspects that could possibly indicate this: Aquarius Stellium of 5 (Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus and Neptune) Mercury Conjunct Sun, Neptune and Uranus (the latter just under 11 degrees) Merc, Sun and Neptune square Mars in Scorpio and Saturn in Late Aries Most people look at Aquarian placements because Aquarius desires to be rebellious and unique, but some charts don't support this theory when it comes to sexuality. I do wonder if there's some sort of subconscious effect that certain aspects have, causing one to be gay out of rebellion for typical social standards (even if they're not fully aware of it). IP: Logged |
DeeMonroe Knowflake Posts: 85 From: The Bay Area Registered: Jun 2011
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posted February 19, 2016 11:20 PM
:|lol WELL, i'm gay but I don't think I have any "gay" aspects or aspects that would show homosexual tendencies. I do have a flamboyant Leo Sun *twirls* (: IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7664 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 20, 2016 12:07 PM
Due to all the secrecy and controversy involved, it will be a long time before any common factors can really be shared. Of course I've read many theories, but we can't really know yet. So far all the theories, if based on someone, didn't take into account all the others with the same placements that they don't know (and I seriously doubt everyone delivered then were a "gay batch" for the same reason I doubt someone born left-handed means all the other babies born right then, or equivalent, are also left-handed).For that matter, sexuality itself (including the heterosexual kinds) is still very much a mystery. That said, I'm 90% gay (80% when younger, or so it seemed) and I have a packed 5H (Sag, which makes my 7H Aquarius), for what it's worth. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2762 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 20, 2016 03:06 PM
There really is no measure for this.I identify as gay. Always found men attractive physically. I always thought that it was because my Mars is close to the 7th house- attracted to masculine energy. Uranus is in the 8th- unusual sexual nature. Ruler of the 8th house(Mars)-aspects Mercury(curiosity to explore sexuality) Ruler of the 8th house(Mars) aspects Jupiter (wanting to expand sexuality). Ruler of the 7th(Venus) close to the 8th house- partners that are taboo. Ruler of 5th house(Sun) in the 9th- romance tends to expand ones view. Ruler of the 12th(Neptune) aspecting Sun(ruler of the 5th)- a romance that is not easily understood.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 04:05 PM
^I dont think you having a packed 5th house is why you are gay at all unless that stellium is aspecting Uranus or the ruler of your Uranus then we are getting somewhere for sure.I don't think any one aspect can be a reliable indicator as all of you have mentioned BUT I think if you have multiple aspects involving Uranus and love objects such as Juno or venus including MARS then I think yes it can indicate this. I know 3 Teen Girls who have told me they are Bi. 1. She is without a doubt like about 50%/50% at this point in her life and she has: Uranus in Aqua, Venus quintile Uranus exact, Sun,Mars,Jupiter and Saturn square Uranus, Juno in Aquarius Quintile Venus, Juno conjunct Uranus. 2. She has Mars in Aquarius square Venus which both semisquare JUNO, Uranus is in aqua and squares her Venus and conjuncts her Mars. She has mars conjunct Psyche and Venus conjunct Eros, she is good at sketching and says there are days she wants to be a boy and days she wants to be a girl and thinks she is bi. ^My husband has Mars-Uranus-DC square venus but he doesn't have venus, mars or uranus in aquarius nor do his venus or mars aspect juno. He loves electronic music, is a musician, a futurist and non conformist political activist but he is straight but that indicator is not reinforced for him with aquarias placements or juno. My Ex lover has Venus conjunct Uranus trine Mars-Moon not just mars and he has Sun in Aqua and is straight, Juno does not aspect his venus, mars-moon and just sextiles Jupiter and semisextiles Uranus. Uranus conjuncts exact my Chart ruler so it makes sense I get involve with heavy uranus people. Ex has sun conjunct uranus. BTW I dont think at all that mercury aspect uranus is a gay indicator, way toooooooo many people have this placement that are straight; now if mercury rules your 7th we may be unto something if there are other indicators reinforcing this too. 3. Venus in Aquarius sextile Mars and conjunct Uranus, Juno in Aquarius conjunct Neptune, Transit Uranus conjuncting her Mars. She thinks she is bi. She is a very cute girl who hates dresses and the color pink and considers herself a tomboy. JUNO I feel plays an important role based on my limited data and all this is speculation ofcourse and it makes sense that JUNO would play a role.
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Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Uranus before I ran into Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 20, 2016 04:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: ^I dont think you having a packed 5th house is why you are gay at all unless that stellium is aspecting Uranus or the ruler of your Uranus then we are getting somewhere for sure.I don't think any one aspect can be a reliable indicator as all of you have mentioned BUT I think if you have multiple aspects involving Uranus and love objects such as Juno or venus including MARS then I think yes it can indicate this. I know 3 Teen Girls who have told me they are Bi. 1. She is without a doubt like about 50%/50% at this point in her life and she has: Uranus in Aqua, Venus quintile Uranus exact, Sun,Mars,Jupiter and Saturn square Uranus, Juno in Aquarius Quintile Venus, Juno conjunct Uranus. 2. She has Mars in Aquarius square Venus which both semisquare JUNO, Uranus is in aqua and squares her Venus and conjuncts her Mars. She has mars conjunct Psyche and Venus conjunct Eros, she is good at sketching and says there are days she wants to be a boy and days she wants to be a girl and thinks she is bi. ^My husband has Mars-Uranus-DC square venus but he doesn't have venus, mars or uranus in aquarius nor do his venus or mars aspect juno. He loves electronic music, is a musician, a futurist and non conformist political activist but he is straight but that indicator is not reinforced for him with aquarias placements or juno. My Ex lover has Venus conjunct Uranus trine Mars-Moon not just mars and he has Sun in Aqua and is straight, Juno does not aspect his venus, mars-moon and just sextiles Jupiter and semisextiles Uranus. Uranus conjuncts exact my Chart ruler so it makes sense I get involve with heavy uranus people. Ex has sun conjunct uranus. BTW I dont think at all that mercury aspect uranus is a gay indicator, way toooooooo many people have this placement that are straight; now if mercury rules your 7th we may be unto something if there are other indicators reinforcing this too. 3. Venus in Aquarius sextile Mars and conjunct Uranus, Juno in Aquarius conjunct Neptune, Transit Uranus conjuncting her Mars. She thinks she is bi. She is a very cute girl who hates dresses and the color pink and considers herself a tomboy. JUNO I feel plays an important role based on my limited data and all this is speculation of course and it makes sense that JUNO would play a role.
I have JUNO in Sag Conjunct Chiron, Square Venus, Sextile Mercury and Neptune and Bi-Quintile Saturn. Not sure how this would affect sexuality but I do know that I have an extremely heavy Uranian influence in my chart with all those Aqua placements and Merc-Conjunct-Uranus as well. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 04:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: I have JUNO in Sag Conjunct Chiron, Square Venus, Sextile Mercury and Neptune and Bi-Quintile Saturn. Not sure how this would affect sexuality but I do know that I have an extremely heavy Uranian influence in my chart with all those Aqua placements and Merc-Conjunct-Uranus as well.
Can you post your chart? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 04:45 PM
Juno on its own means nothing but wen you link it up with other indicators in the chart I think it can be very telling and significant since Juno has to do with committed relationships and who you see yourself with, juno does not deal with fetishes but who you actually see yourself committed to in a relationship that everyone knows about.So I would like to see your chart bc you saying juno square venus is not enough info. I need to see where your Venus is and what aspects your venus makes etc. I need to look at the whole chart. For example you can have bisexual fantasies but not see yourself falling in love with the same sex or opposite sex, I think to identify as a bisexual or gay it means you see yourself in a relationship with the same sex and in love with someone with the same sex among other factors like being out, its more than a fetish or a fantasy so Juno the asteroid of committed relationships would factor in bc your sexual orientation is part of your identity and lifestyle not just a fleeting fetish/fantasy IMO. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 126 From: Uranus before I ran into Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 20, 2016 05:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Juno on its own means nothing but wen you link it up with other indicators in the chart I think it can be very telling and significant since Juno has to do with committed relationships and who you see yourself with, juno does not deal with fetishes but who you actually see yourself committed to in a relationship that everyone knows about.So I would like to see your chart bc you saying juno square venus is not enough info. I need to see where your Venus is and what aspects your venus makes etc. I need to look at the whole chart. For example you can have bisexual fantasies but not see yourself falling in love with the same sex or opposite sex, I think to identify as a bisexual or gay it means you see yourself in a relationship with the same sex and in love with someone with the same sex among other factors like being out, its more than a fetish or a fantasy so Juno the asteroid of committed relationships would factor in bc your sexual orientation is part of your identity and lifestyle not just a fleeting fetish/fantasy IMO.
The chart here uses Astro.com orbs, so the Merc - Uranus conjunction doesn't surface (despite how it's description applies to me quite a bit). It has JUNO there IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 05:29 PM
Just being an Aquarius with Mercury in Aquarius would probably be more than enough for you to identify with the aspect mercury conjunct uranus even though they are not in orb since your mercury is disposited by Uranus and Uranus is your final dispositor. Also you might have Mercury parallel uranus so check your declinations.There you go when you mentioned you had Juno square Venus I suspected your venus would be in aquarius! So that is one indicator. In addition Venus rules your DC! and is in aquarius squaring Juno. Interesting the ruler of your IC which represents the real you and is your most vulnerable part is ruled by uranus and is part of a stellium on your IC including your Sun!. I could see why you identify with mercury conjunct uranus even though is not in orb as its part of the stellium on your IC in addition to what I mentioned above; angles are very powerful and magnify allowing for wider orbs to be felt. Uranus is your last dispositor: Mars rules your chart and your... Mars is ruled by Pluto Pluto is ruled by Jupiter Jupiter is ruled by Neptune Neptune is ruled by Uranus Uranus in Aquarius (Last dispositor) I do feel that a lot of uranus influence is conducive to being bi or gay if 7th house ruler and or juno are linked to it somehow. Thanks for sharing your chart love! IP: Logged |
mooninaries94 Knowflake Posts: 253 From: where the rain grows Registered: Jan 2016
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posted February 20, 2016 06:30 PM
I've Venus trine Uranus and I'm straight. IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 20, 2016 06:38 PM
@mooninaries94 I also have that aspect and im bi-sexualIP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 07:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by XzaultaX: @mooninaries94 I also have that aspect and im bi-sexual
Can you post your chart? Does Venus or Uranus rule your DC? Do you have Venus or Uranus in aquarius in addition to having them trine? What is Juno doing in your chart? I would like to see your chart. Thanks.
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XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 20, 2016 07:14 PM
@hypathia238 here it is http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_w2gw_01_xzaultax.648.19731.gif&res=63http IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 07:26 PM
^ It expired. Right click on chart, click save image, save it to your desktop and then upload on imgur.com, then copy and past forum link.IP: Logged |
RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted February 20, 2016 07:32 PM
Singleton fire venus in leo and fifth house opposite a Uranus/Neptune conjunction While my seventh house Juno resides in Libra and is both quincunx mars and AC Which would form a wannabe Yod, but I don't tend to count asteroids or axis in this pattern. I consider myself as straight as possible, despite that I can admire women's beauty (and feel jealous... or better) IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 20, 2016 07:36 PM
@hypatia238 sorry i literally just joined here yesterday XP http://imgur.com/XrteqkS IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 07:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by RoseLily: Singleton fire venus in leo and fifth house opposite a Uranus/Neptune conjunction While my seventh house Juno resides in Libra and is both quincunx mars and AC Which would form a wannabe Yod, but I don't tend to count asteroids or axis in this pattern. I consider myself as straight as possible, despite that I can admire women's beauty (and feel jealous... or better)
hahahaha wannabe Yod! Juno is a well established asteroid extensively researched and discovered way before Pluto. Pluto was just discovered in the 1930s and is not a planet yet we sure put a lot of importance in it!!!!!!!!. Your Juno is NOT aspecting your venus opposite Uranus I bet. I bet your Juno does not trine or sextile or square your Venus opposite Uranus. What is your 7th house ruler? Juno in libra in the 7th makes me think Venus might be your 7th house ruler. Oppositions are tricky as they tend to play out in relationships. I wonder if you attract bi men even though you are straight, you playing the Venus part of the Venus opposite Uranus and your partner the Uranus part. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 3805 From: Miami Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 20, 2016 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by XzaultaX: @hypatia238 sorry i literally just joined here yesterday XP http://imgur.com/XrteqkS
As I suspected Venus rules your DC and it conjuncts your Mars and trines your Uranus so yes it would make you more open to same sex relationships and fits that you are bi since both venus conjunct mars trine uranus and Venus rules your DC. Thanks for posting!  IP: Logged |
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posted February 20, 2016 08:10 PM
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XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 20, 2016 08:16 PM
@darksoul18 bro you need jesus like nowIP: Logged |
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posted February 20, 2016 08:20 PM
Only "aspect" I can think of.IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Virginia, USA Registered: Feb 2016
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posted February 20, 2016 08:21 PM
@hypatia238 how does my venus rule my decsendant? It's not in the 12th house.IP: Logged |