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Topic: The appeal of Donald Trump
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Astrochologist
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posted February 24, 2016 05:42 PM
  
http://astro-chologist.com/appeal-donald-trump-connects-public/ I explore the Trump phenomenon in a political sense and an astrological sense. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 24, 2016 05:47 PM
LOVE HIM  ------------------
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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 24, 2016 06:13 PM
Article on Trump by Jeffrey Tucker, CLO of Liberty.me at the Foundation for Economic Education websiteSome points of my own: - The declinations reveal the largest portion of the story of his birth chart; there are numerous powerful aspects there that show temperament challenges, and tendencies towards extremism. - Trump has never shown any interest in public service. He has never held elective office or bothered to run for one until now. - Trump may not use legalese, but he threatens people with lawsuits all the time. - He has had numerous business failures, including a school for which he is being called (in early/mid-May) to testify in federal court on matters relating to bait-n-switch fraud.. Those folks certainly don't feel he helped them succeed. - He attracts organized racists who support him wholeheartedly like these KKK members who showed up to caucus for him in Nevada:
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athenaia
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posted February 24, 2016 07:38 PM
Always doing God's work, Kannon. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted February 25, 2016 02:30 AM
When he made fun of disabled people, I stopped listening to anything that came out of his mouth. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 25, 2016 06:41 AM
That photo looks conspicuously staged by the left to discredit Trump. The article was posted by a blithering idiot. Trump has numerous licensing deals all across the world. He's a brand. He didn't run the school. And yes, Trump has filed for reorganization protection, as have many companies. During the 80s recession, real estate took a dive, and he survived it and thrived. Is it an unpardonable sin to fail? Failure is inevitable. CEOs usually have a string of them. Lincoln failed every single thing he tried...till he became President. And Trump has been involved in local politics for decades. Plus, he said as a young adult that he wanted to be President. He even ran before under the Reform party. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 25, 2016 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
When he made fun of disabled people, I stopped listening to anything that came out of his mouth.
This was a LIE--totally made up. The mainstream new took a guy Trump didn't he KNOW was disabled and a joke Trump made that had nothing to do with any disabled person and linked it. People need to look deeper than what they are told by network news. ------------------
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Southern Sun
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posted February 25, 2016 06:54 AM
He is interesting to me because of the lack of political jargon we are all used to with every other candidate in modern history. From what I gather, people want to get behind someone who has the guts to say what the silent are feeling, but can't voice it publically. It is a curious effect with Trump, as his voters continue to increase his eligibility. Trump is GAINING supporters.From a young person's perspective, political jargon and PC doublespeak is a fast track to losing their interest. It's part of why the under 35 crowd is less likely to vote for an 'Establishment' candidate--they are all the same! One vote makes no difference when you are forced to pick between two sides of the same coin. Edit: And I'm pretty sure the above photos are staged by trolls--it is very easy to fool the media these days, who will eat up anything you throw at them so long as it can be turned into a sensationalist piece. If anyone has been following Trump from the beginning, they would notice how the other candidates had to constantly adjust their views to try and match his rhetoric. People have spoken, and every other candidate in this race has struggled to keep up. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 25, 2016 07:26 AM
One thing fueling the hate for Trump, and it is just one thing, is that people are jealous of successful people when they feel their own lives are poor, in a variety of ways.------------------
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llewsacm
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posted February 25, 2016 08:55 AM
If you look at his natal chart, he has his moon the the 4th with Venus in cancer. This is associated with one who loves their home, or their place of birth. I think he is a man of power who is sick of seeing his country fall apart. He has some great qualities and some not so great...lol. But he's not in it for the money, or the recognition I don't believe. IP: Logged |
athenaia
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posted February 25, 2016 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
One thing fueling the hate for Trump, and it is just one thing, is that people are jealous of successful people when they feel their own lives are poor, in a variety of ways.
So by that definition would that mean you're jealous of Hillary because you're not voting for her and because you aren't in the same socioeconomic bracket as her? Of course it doesn't. It's okay to vote for Trump - that's what this country was designed for. Freedom of choice. However, what's the point of being in denial about the special kind of voter he's going to attract. He isn't a moderate Rubio or from a political dynasty like Jeb. He's a deeply radical conservative with a penchant for racist immigration policies. Why wouldn't the KKK be drawn to a candidate that reflects their special interests, even in "minute" ways? But if we really want to talk about leadership, we want to see a long track record of success and strength in conviction throughout the candidate's history. Right? To me, both Hillary and Trump fail in that regard. However, with Trump, it's very interesting. I'm not a Hillary fan in the slightest but we can say she's truly been a one party candidate her whole life. Trump, on the other hand, was a very vocal Democrat throughout much of his life and spent millions campaigning for Bill Clinton two times over. For someone that sings the praises of American meritocracy and falls in line with Ronald Reagan's "no borrowing" school of economics, he's declared bankruptcy three times. His past actions aren't in line with the image he's putting on today. That's important for a lot of people. GWB Jr. called John Kerry out on that in 2004 and is arguably the reason voter turn out didn't work in his favor that election cycle. I don't hate Trump, but these are legitimately.. the facts. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 25, 2016 09:32 AM
Trump has never filed for bankruptcy. Three of his separate entities (companies) have filed for Chapter 11 reorganization. That's a big difference. Who among us has never had a struggle or a failure? That's how we learn, grow, and (especially in Trump's case) become a success at something. As far as "racist immigration policies" go, he's merely stating that if you want to be in America, do it legally. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows
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posted February 25, 2016 09:45 AM
I don't know much about politics, but I do know Donald Trump:
Disrespects anyone who upsets him
Picks fights for no reasonThat doesn't seem like someone who would successfully be meeting foreign leaders, etc. IP: Logged |
Southern Sun
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posted February 25, 2016 09:46 AM
I think I read somewhere that trump has some interesting 10th and 12th house placementsIP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted February 25, 2016 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I don't know much about politics, but I do know Donald Trump:
Disrespects anyone who upsets him
Picks fights for no reasonThat doesn't seem like someone who would successfully be meeting foreign leaders, etc.
This is what I'm trying to get at. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars
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posted February 25, 2016 09:51 AM
I usually stay out of politics but I have to say that he is a narcissistic misogynest bully. A Leo rising gone very bad. IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted February 25, 2016 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
A Leo rising gone very bad.
Judging by his hair, it certainly did. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo
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posted February 25, 2016 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This was a LIE--totally made up. The mainstream new took a guy Trump didn't he KNOW was disabled and a joke Trump made that had nothing to do with any disabled person and linked it. People need to look deeper than what they are told by network news.
So everything bad ever said about Trump is a giant conspiracy made up by the news media to trash his character?
It's fine if you believe that, that's your right. I chose to recognize what I see and hear in the media, because that's all we've really got to go off of. I don't know the guy personally, but my own priorities and values lead me to not trust a guy with that kind of track record. And that is my decision...just as your decision is yours.
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polkadotstars
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posted February 25, 2016 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I don't know much about politics, but I do know Donald Trump:
Disrespects anyone who upsets him
Picks fights for no reasonThat doesn't seem like someone who would successfully be meeting foreign leaders, etc.
Exactly. The way he boycotted the debate because he felt the moderator was being mean to him. Seriously? How many people has he flat out insulted by calling them ugly, stupid, fat, and other childish names. He's mean to everyone but when someone throws it right back at him he has a temper tantrum. How is he going to get along with foreign leaders that he "doesn't like"? You're always going to encounter people you don't like to work with but you have to suck it up, be mature and professional, and do it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I just can't imagine how this man is even a good person. He's not a leader in my eyes. He's not diplomatic. I can't imagine him compromising on anything, I feel it would be his way or the highway with both internal and external affairs. That might work in big businesses that he is used to but leading a country like that would be disastrous. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted February 25, 2016 10:23 AM
Here is the thing. Do you want to make money/succeed with your OWN smarts and your own initiative or do you want to be GIVEN everything.If you want to be a self starter and succeed through your own merit, vote Trump If you want to be given everything by the government, vote Sanders or Clinton. ------------------
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Vegasdlt36
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posted February 25, 2016 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Article on Trump by Jeffrey Tucker, CLO of Liberty.me at the Foundation for Economic Education websiteSome points of my own: - The declinations reveal the largest portion of the story of his birth chart; there are numerous powerful aspects there that show temperament challenges, and tendencies towards extremism. - Trump has never shown any interest in public service. He has never held elective office or bothered to run for one until now. - Trump may not use legalese, but he threatens people with lawsuits all the time. - He has had numerous business failures, including a school for which he is being called (in early/mid-May) to testify in federal court on matters relating to bait-n-switch fraud.. Those folks certainly don't feel he helped them succeed. - He attracts organized racists who support him wholeheartedly like these KKK members who showed up to caucus for him in Nevada:
The best part about these particular protesters: Look closely, they are black. Carry on. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 25, 2016 10:30 AM
I can't stand him. There is nothing appealing about him. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 25, 2016 10:35 AM
Can we get this thread back on Astrology, please?IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 25, 2016 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
People need to look deeper than what they are told by network news.
That goes both ways. Republicans should be more open-minded about Clinton and Sanders, if you expect anyone to take Trump seriously. I can't imagine him winning the freaking Presidency. I've defended Americans in the past, when people overseas were acting as though all Americans are awful, stupid people - but I won't be able to do that for those who willingly put Trump into the White House.
This is a nightmare that I'm hoping to wake up from, soon.
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teasel
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posted February 25, 2016 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I can't stand him. There is nothing appealing about him.
Okay. Maybe I don't like him because of my Gemini South Node. And my Aries detests the way he just wants to win, as well as how rude he is. Moon conjunct Venus agrees there. IP: Logged |
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