posted February 27, 2016 10:31 PM            

Natal Jupiter Retrograde
* has doubts about what they deserve and so ...
* finds it easy to settle for crumbs
* feels superior in some way inside
* abundance is felt on the inside
* looks inside for answers to religious questions

Natal Retrograde Jupiter can cause you to encounter one impediment after another in your search for understanding and positive experiences, especially in early life. Positive abilities, talents, attributes and skills tend to come later in life. Higher education is prone to be delayed, if it comes at all. One of the beneficial aspects of this placement, is that you are more likely to be introspective, which assists in the development of higher spiritual ideals.

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posted February 27, 2016 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
JUPITER RETROGRADE turns its energy of expansion inward, so that much inner growth takes place, often through spiritually oriented studies. JUPITER RETROGRADE tends to procrastinate and to plan, then re-plan, to the point of failing to get anywhere with the thoroughly planned project. JUPITER RETROGRADE offers the opportunity for a highly spiritual incarnation. You must seek your own Truth; for, the mundane and status quo is likely to leave you feeling discontent. You are a free-spirit and cannot follow happily in the footsteps of others. Great wisdom and prophetic ability can be present, especially as you attain spiritual maturity. JUPITER RETROGRADE can bring many déjà-vu experiences; you can feel at home anywhere on the planet.

Natal Jupiter Retrograde
* has doubts about what they deserve and so ...
* finds it easy to settle for crumbs
* feels superior in some way inside
* abundance is felt on the inside
* looks inside for answers to religious questions

Natal Retrograde Jupiter can cause you to encounter one impediment after another in your search for understanding and positive experiences, especially in early life. Positive abilities, talents, attributes and skills tend to come later in life. Higher education is prone to be delayed, if it comes at all. One of the beneficial aspects of this placement, is that you are more likely to be introspective, which assists in the development of higher spiritual ideals.

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I have it retro in the 3rd house...not sure how it plays out with that placement specifically, but retro planets are felt more inwardly...I also have mercury retrograde so this may have something to do with it, but I feel like I can express my feelings/opinions better through thoughts and writing than in words (most of the time)...3rd rules communication, so retro jupiter may be why I can't find the right words verbally, but am "lucky" or "blessed" in writing and clearer/deeper thinking.

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posted February 27, 2016 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I can attest to getting luckier as I age. Totally had blocks and 'bad luck' when I was a child and a teenager. Got better as I grew older! A lot of this written is true about me.

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posted February 27, 2016 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
Same with me, I feel like there are many blocks and dissatisfaction in all the main areas in life. I have a pretty rough chart as is, but I'm convinced a direct Jupiter would have helped a bit. So it could be that the bulk of my problems comes from my jupiter being retro (along with my retro mercury--which is no joke lol). What house is your Jupiter in?

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My Jupiter is in the 3rd house, using equal houses, 4th using whole signs!

posted February 27, 2016 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Oh yeah, and my Jupiter is retrograde too!

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posted February 27, 2016 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
I'm curious, did you notice setbacks/difficulties in 3rd and 4th house issues mainly or both that and higher education (since Jupiter is the natural ruler of the 9th)?

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Oh yeah, setbacks in college happened to me. I quit in autumn of 2015. I decide that I will go back when I'm about 30 (I'm 27 now). I didn't finish my Bachelor's.

How old r u? If you don't answer, that's fine.

posted February 28, 2016 12:15 AM            

Overall I'm lucky, especially with money/financial matters.

posted February 28, 2016 12:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Oh yeah, setbacks in college happened to me. I quit in autumn of 2015. I decide that I will go back when I'm about 30 (I'm 27 now). I didn't finish my Bachelor's.

How old r u? If you don't answer, that's fine.

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posted February 28, 2016 09:22 AM            

I myself have a jupiter retrograde as well and I found myself at young age, absorbing information that I come across too easily without much info check.

As I grew older of course, such tendency started to not serve well so I started to be cautious. Well it turns out that I went way too far the other way. Now I question the info that I come across too much... If someone teaches me something, I am like... 'are you sure?'

posted February 28, 2016 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
It's probably worth noting that my 10th house pluto square my 7th house jupiter. I notice that I often encounter situations where rewards are accompanied by ethical dilemmas. In a supposedly "lucky" situation, often there is something unsavory that tickles my red flags. I pass up a lot of things, and I feel pangs of temptation and regrets every time. But in the end I think it's for the better because it allows me to sleep better at night lol.

Overall I'm lucky, especially with money/financial matters.

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I read somewhere that people with Jupiter retrograde are being tested if they have morals.

I should also tell you all that I suffer near instant karma if I do something that's bad, or not moral or ethical. It's like having an invisible eye watching you, like Santa Claus handing out coal, or present.

posted February 28, 2016 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
JUPITER RETROGRADE turns its energy of expansion inward, so that much inner growth takes place, often through spiritually oriented studies.

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However, it is proper practice for the author of it to be credited (or at least linked), which is Nancy Detweiler, M.Ed, M.Div of http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson5.html ...

It essentially to revisit, remedy one's inherited or inborn approach to expansion/growth/philosophy. Life circumstances will force the issue. How you deal with it is your choice.

To broaden the interpretation to metaphysical dimensions, it is my view that we Jupiter-Rx folks need to re-visit, question, expand further upon the religious/spiritual philosophy we brought in karmically (were born into). In my case that was fundamentalist evangelical Christianity (Southern Baptist), a church I left at age 19, mostly because it abandoned me in my time of need. If a spiritual organization or religion's professed ethic or philosophy is not matched in (social) application, then something is wrong.

Jupiter-Rx could be likened to internal testing of one's philosophy of upbringing, the development of inner discernment upon which one can build appropriate ideals and a personal life philosophy.

posted February 28, 2016 03:50 PM            

You explained very well, but I must be a bit slow or anything, lol, so I have a follow up question. If my jupiter retro is in the 3rd house, does that mean along with re-examining my religious/non religious views I have to do it through communication or siblings? Since that's what the third house rules? I still have trouble understanding it and how it plays out.

Many people were born during Jup Rx because it stays retrograde for so long, so how do thousands or millions of people have the same specific lesson? That almost takes away from the lesson for me because it seems...Id on't know, not personal? Please explain because I do actually have trouble accepting religion, so I can see that, but I know people who were born within a week or 2 of me and they don't have that issue. Plus how does the third house play into it?

posted February 28, 2016 04:44 PM            

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(...) the development of inner discernment upon which one can build appropriate ideals and a personal life philosophy.

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Bingo! This is exactly how I feel about my Jupiter Rx. It is in Aquarius and in my 3rd house too.

I feel I am compelled to share whatever I learn through life experience (I am talking about spiritual matters here). In one way or another, I have been either writing about it and having it published, or I am sharing it by talking with people.

I tend to question and rebel against any established philosophy or religion (this is where the Aquarian Jupiter comes in plus it sextiles my Uranus in Sag too). Anything told and written as a rule, I question and try to discern if it resonates or not with me personally. This is made through research, conversations with other people from all types of backgrounds, study or simply by life experiences. I do not follow things or ideas if I don't "feel" them right to me.

I see my Jupiter here pushing me to communicate to others whatever it teaches me throughout life. (I have a 9th house stellium on top of this.)

Also, I can talk a lot lol .

posted February 28, 2016 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by candycrush:
If my jupiter retro is in the 3rd house, does that mean along with re-examining my religious/non religious views I have to do it through communication or siblings? Since that's what the third house rules? I still have trouble understanding it and how it plays out.

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I'd say don't try to hyper-specify. Simply take in the lesson and act on it in the way that feels most natural to start. I'd say do some personal writing about it, and see what interesting conversations you can get into with those who were not raised in your belief system.

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Many people were born during Jup Rx because it stays retrograde for so long, so how do thousands or millions of people have the same specific lesson?

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Great question. Jupiter spends about 1/4 - 1/3 of its time Rx on average (3-4 months). So that is definitely a minority of people. However, this lesson is not as specific as you'd think, because the learning process is part of the ongoing process of evolving over lifetimes.

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That almost takes away from the lesson for me because it seems...Id on't know, not personal? Please explain because I do actually have trouble accepting religion, so I can see that, but I know people who were born within a week or 2 of me and they don't have that issue. Plus how does the third house play into it?

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It is personal to you according to your circusmtances of birth, family heritage, etc. Give your friends a while. Their lives have not been fully lived yet. Everyone is on a timeline of their own and will get to most of their lessons when the time is right for them. Its not actually about religion per se, but about your relationship with yourself and your own ideals.

Secularly, Jupiter-Rx is about personal ideals, the approach to growth/expansion. It does not have to involved religion at all.

posted February 28, 2016 06:28 PM            

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Sunnya

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posted February 28, 2016 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I read somewhere that people with Jupiter retrograde are being tested if they have morals.

I should also tell you all that I suffer near instant karma if I do something that's bad, or not moral or ethical. It's like having an invisible eye watching you, like Santa Claus handing out coal, or present.

I wonder if it's my mix of Jupiter retrograde, being that Jupiter rules morals. And of my Saturn in Capricorn, in the 10th house.

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It makes sense, like you said, jupiter rules ethics and morals (among other things).

Yes to the instant karma. It's pretty surreal (like if I cursed at a random cat I'd get chased by swooping magpies. Ok maybe not that weird, but you catch my drift).

I started to pay attention at an early age, whenever I did something *bad* I reaped what I sow fast. I have some Machiavellian traits and a desire to slither around finding loopholes (things like hacking interest me greatly).

Knowing that karma is just around the corner certainly steers me towards "the light", or at least keeps me from going over to "the dark" lol.

It's in my 7th house, I wonder if that's the reason why the people who are close to me all have rather firm codes of morals and ethics (like my s.o, who has jupiter in the 1st - quite a principled person). I have a certain set that I follow. But most of the time I like to stay in gray areas, rather than subscribe to moral absolutes.

There's this article that I find quite interesting.

http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/retrogrades-in-the-natal-horoscope

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Jupiter R in the 10th will often go back to college to improve their professional skills. They should not change their job just when success is at their door step. Recognition definitely comes after their first Saturn Return or the 3rd Jupiter Return.

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posted February 28, 2016 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I have morals now, but I was very wishy-washy and in gray areas back when I was a teenager.

Speaking of past lives, I probably had little to no morals in my past lives. I am learning about consequences of my actions in this one. I think my lifetimes are getting more serious as I live more incarnations. I'm not a young soul at all.

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Yeah I've grown in my understanding of morals this lifetime for sure. Jupiter rx conjunct vertex in gemini in my 8th house. As a teenager i would do anything, was wild and reckless and hurt people and myself without any understanding of consequences. I've grown a lot since then.

posted February 28, 2016 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
It is personal to you [b]according to your circusmtances of birth, family heritage, etc. Give your friends a while. Their lives have not been fully lived yet. Everyone is on a timeline of their own and will get to most of their lessons when the time is right for them. Its not actually about religion per se, but about your relationship with yourself and your own ideals.

Secularly, Jupiter-Rx is about personal ideals, the approach to growth/expansion. It does not have to involved religion at all.

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