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Topic: What you want / need VS. what you get?
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9687 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 28, 2016 08:45 AM
I mean in terms of relationship. Generally it's assumed that:
- Moon: what we need (but what men want, also?) - Venus: what we want (for men only? Mars for women? what about the Sun?) - DSC: what we actually get Yes?
I'm confused about the "need" part. How can you know what you need or what's good for you? Is that solely the role of the Moon? Does the Moon have a different function in a male vs a female chart? (do men desire their Moon while women "need" it without necessarily desiring it?...) (I'm using traditional/heterosexual significators here... Apologies for the non-heterosexual people out there, I have no idea how significators work for you guys.) In my experience, I get my DSC mostly, but I can see no trace of my Mars or Sun (or Venus or the Moon, really). But from what I've seen, men tend to "get" the whole combo: Moon, Venus and DSC... Just curious about what you guys think of this. What do you "want", and what do you "get"? And do you know where to look for to find what you "need" (and is that very different from what you want?) (Astrologically speaking, what areas of your chart point to all these things?)
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Aunt Anomalia Knowflake Posts: 1943 From: Pandora's Box Tech Registered: Mar 2015
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posted February 28, 2016 08:53 AM
I'm all you need, silly And seriously, I think the whole chart should be taken into consideration if we're to create the profile of someone who'd be attractive and compatible. First of all, we need to figure out what kind of person the chart's owner is. Completing patterns, even if not romantic, is probably important too. What one gets depends a lot on how mature and wise they are. Some people are simply bad at choosing partners. ------------------ The first psychic femdroid on the market. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10949 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted February 28, 2016 10:27 AM
I want and need someone I can count on and count on to tell me the truth and what I get is the opposite. Truth and friendship are super important to me but I've only experienced that with one person so far.Taurus Moon Venus in Aries Sag DSC IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 16091 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 28, 2016 10:50 AM
Hmm great questions, Doux. (And HI by the way! )I once heard this saying: You won't know what you need until someone gives it to you. Often people who touch me deeply catch me unawares because I didn't know I even needed what they were offering. Sometimes even a simple gesture can awaken a feeling of need...like Oh that! That's available?? I need more of that!!! Almost the same way the consumer culture functions, we don't really think of products until they are options. (?) Anyway, yes, I think emotional needs are determined by the moon. I think people are increasingly disdainful of emotional needs, though...I think we aren't too in touch with our emotional needs because we are conditioned to focus on becoming emotionally low-maintenance and self-sustaining. So the primary need becomes, to remain in a position where self-care is possible and supported. (I don't think this is healthy, I think we all need connection on a deeper level, but these are the social norms that I think we're dealing with.) With Venus, yes, it's more a matter of "want," it's a happy planet that wants more of the same...I think it's geared towards attaining a pleasant state, whereas the moon is open to a wider variety of sensations and experiences. The DSC seems to function mainly as an indicator of who we'll single out for a monogamous relationship...I don't see much use for it beyond that, except in event charts, it highlights partnership themes. Ideally there is harmony between our DSC, moon and Venus, and we find a compatible harmony in our partner, but that is rare. Not pretending to be an expert, these are just casual thoughts. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2040 From: INTJ Registered: Jun 2015
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posted February 28, 2016 10:57 AM
I don't feel any particular want or need attached to my venus or mars, moon, or Sun, etc. I just need to be understood. So, I don't desire someone "Virgo-like", (My Venus and Mars). I just need someone who "gets" my own Virgo tendencies. Someone who understands that I'm not trying to be rude by not socializing, that I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, and that when I give some undesirable input that it's not to be an arse. I don't need anyone with the same traits. Same can be said about my moon, sun, mercury, etc. I need to feel free to express myself without getting backlash. To feel loved despite some of my quirks and downfalls. In fact, Virgo is the sign that I least often feel any attraction to. Now I will say that as far as my DSC goes. I think it's secretly the type of person that I desire and in my case it IS the type of person that I often get. (Aries DSC) I attract very forward, direct, driven partners (Mars/Aries-like). That's fine by me! Just tell me straight. If I have to read between lines then it's probably going to be the wrong lines. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 66563 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 28, 2016 11:22 AM
I think the Moon is what you need, need. In other words, the cry of your heart.The Sun may be what you need in a more superficial sense like career, interests, ego( ego in a good way, not bad) Venus is what you love When *I* am all said and done, I am a Cancer Moon lol ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 2764 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 28, 2016 02:06 PM
The Moon is the earliest imprint of our psychological needs. And even when badly aspected,shows what we interpret as "love".If the Moon and Venus are badly aspected to each other, there is a possibility of an affair in marriage/relationship. What the person reads as love(Moon) is not the same as what they idealize(Venus). So there is a chasm that needs to be relieved. The Moon person will always be the person the individual falls back to. No matter how many other people tickle their interest. If Moon and DSC disagree,one may feel like they have shallow friends or have a false public image. They could also feel that their partner does not recognize whom they truly are. Or what they need.
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Elysia Knowflake Posts: 922 From: Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 28, 2016 02:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Oh that! That's available?? I need more of that!!!
Yeah, thing is...when you find something your Venus 'likes', but something still feels a little off - that's probably your unmet emotional needs making themselves felt. It's different signals for different people, but I mostly realize it only after a long period of them having gone unnoticed... In this case, it's more of a process of elimination, rather than an outward *seeking*... (I like him. He's great. He's fun. He's so smart. What's wrong??? Oh wait....). As for the Sun/Mars - I believe it's more of a 'measuring up'. As in, one needs someone who can keep up with one's Sun/Mars, while being like what is desired by Venus/Ceres/Juno/whatever. For instance, a Scorp mars may definitely fall for a Pisces Venus, but there probably need to be other factors in that Venus person's chart which make them strong enough to handle this mars without simply swimming away... IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9687 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 01, 2016 11:47 AM
Thank you all for the replies. quote: Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: I'm all you need, silly
Oh, you. quote: What one gets depends a lot on how mature and wise they are. Some people are simply bad at choosing partners.
I agree with the first point. But I wonder if "some people" aren't simply supposed to learn some lessons, and that's the reason why they make "poor choices"... Now, I think a lot of people stay in relationships that have outgrown their purpose, but I really can't tell if that's their own choice or if that's somehow related to higher purposes like karma, destiny/fate, etc. quote: Originally posted by Faith: I once heard this saying: You won't know what you need until someone gives it to you.
Hi Faith. I really enjoyed your post, and fully agree with you. I read an article yesterday that I think kind of fits here, but not exactly... It's long but I've found it very interesting (albeit quite complex): Astrological Indicators of Happiness in Human Relationships, by Dane Rudhyar
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Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 3455 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 01, 2016 10:17 PM
I really enjoyed reading this thread.
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